GOP 'Leaders' Struggle to Contain the Revolution
(Issue # 22, June 2, 2008)
GOP Leaders Struggle to Contain ‘Revolution’
Despite changing the rules, closing state conventions, Ron Paul Revolution grows
By Pat Shannan
Although John McCain is the presumptive Republican nominee, as the various state conventions roll forward in obscurity, conflict and chaos continue to be spread by Ron Paul’s enthusiastic followers who continue to try to storm the ramparts of the GOP establishment.
These efforts by libertarian-leaning Republicans, looking to strike a blow against the neo-cons, have met with some successes and some failures and certainly a very undesirable backlash. Their strategy, as demonstrated at district conventions around the country, is to show up in large numbers, use procedural motions to disrupt the convention, and if their forces are sufficient, force a vote to suspend the convention rules, remove the convention leadership, and start over again with their faction in control—all within the rules, of course.
This strategy is continuing at the state level as was demonstrated at the Nevada State Convention in Reno, where an attempt to take over the convention was near succeeding when the sitting chairman countered with a space-skipping checkmate. He had seen that the Ron Paul faction was far stronger than the John McCain delegation and cleverly adjourned the proceedings altogether in order to avoid the inevitable.
Officials indicated that they are to reconvene at a later date, but the Paul faction suspects a different and secret city.
As news of what happened in Texas Senate District 25 (where Paul supporters completely took over) and in Nevada has spread, state party bosses have drawn up their counter-strategies which include changes to how conventions are run which reduce direct input from delegates and motions from the floor, draconian measures to remove anyone they think is “disruptive” and in some cases special meetings of credentials committees to disqualify Ron Paul delegates before the convention convenes.
Meanwhile, as more state conventions are held the conflict continues. At the Maine Republican State Convention in May the screws were tightened, with no microphones on the floor of the convention and a number of Paul delegates forcibly ejected from the hall. Police were on hand to maintain security. Scheduled pro-Paul speakers found their time shortened or their appearances canceled.
Attempts to introduce delaying motions were quickly ruled out of order. The whole proceeding charged ahead with little opportunity to interrupt. This type of highly managed convention where delegates are treated more like observers than participants may now be the standard for these state conventions.
Not surprisingly, this type of behavior from party bosses has not been well received. One of the best reports on the Maine convention comes from Robert Miller, a young delegate whose account of the convention stresses the alienation which he felt as a Ron Paul supporter from the convention proceedings from which he described the bias for McCain and the prejudice against Ron Paul.
He said the anti-Ron Paul agenda became evident soon after the hammering of the initiating gavel. After the first order of business, someone from one county made a motion reminding the convention that since there were two candidates, and John McCain was well represented, someone should be allowed to speak on behalf of Ron Paul also.
Young Miller says that that idea “must have been too dangerous to vote on,” because the chairwoman immediately called the motion “out of order” and proceeded without even considering the matter, or letting it come to a vote.
Despite the obstacles being put in their path, the Ron Paul faction is having some success. They haven’t taken over a state convention yet, and may not, considering the stacked deck, but they are gaining delegates here and there. Some states use a system for selecting delegates to the national convention where a part of the delegation is chosen at district conventions and the rest are selected at the state convention. Paul supporters have done very well in states which use this approach, taking half of the 12 available delegate slots in Minnesota and a third of the delegate positions in Oklahoma.
This representation, out of proportion to Paul’s actual standing in the official (fraudulent) vote in those states, is made possible because Paul’s supporters are highly motivated and actually attend the conventions while less motivated partisans stay home, and because of the departure of two moderately successful candidates who have dropped out of the race and left a vacuum which the Paul forces can move in and fill.
If this pattern continues, even with crackdowns at future state conventions, Paul supporters are still likely to fill a lot more seats at the national GOP convention in September than would normally be justified by his showing in the (fraudulent) popular vote, “perhaps 30 times the 21 delegates they are officially entitled to based on the state primary results,” suggests political writer, Dave Nalle.
“Along the way they’re likely to antagonize party organizers and drive away potential allies,” he says, “and ultimately make themselves into pariahs. But the fireworks at the national convention should be fun.”
Some are suggesting that instead of trying to seize control of convention after convention, the Paul people could have laid relatively low and worked within the system and probably sent even more delegates to the national convention than they are likely to now, and by being more subdued they could have won over allies and made converts within the mainstream of the party.
Then the backlash would have been minimal, and while they might not have been able to stop McCain from getting the nomination they could have had a profound influence on the platform, the issues raised in the election and the future direction of the party.
In addition to the step-child treatment at every state convention, these loyal supporters have witnessed vote theft at every turn, but now the party bosses are is definitely cracking down.
Conservative radio talk show host Mike Gallagher told the hosts of Fox and Friends. “There is no question that this could be a major headache for McCain.
“John McCain would be well-served to kind of reach out and give him an olive branch at the convention,” Gallagher continued. “Let him speak, give him a role, because if these people are disrespected—you know, this, combined with Bob Barr’s announcement that Barr now is running as a Libertarian—is going to just take votes away from John McCain and could be a disaster for the Republican Party.”
Pat Shannan is the assistant editor of American Free Press.
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Get Involved, folks
The only way this is going to change is for Ron Paul Republicans to be the party. How is that going to happen? You have to get involved. In Arizona you need to become a PC. In other states I am sure it is similar. You have to be the people that do the work and elect the officials, by a majority. If you really want change in this country and don't want to just talk about it, you need to get involved in the political process. This was made very clear last night when Ron Paul spoke in Phoenix. We can't change anything sitting on the sidelines and complaining about all of the old Republicans who don't get it. The only way it will change is if you become the Republican party.
We can do it!
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
We must look to the long run!
We are advocating the shift of policies that have been in existance for nearly 100 years. Returning our Federal Govt to a constitutional size is not going to happen over night but we need to hold our ground... and just remain determined. Eventually we will begin to develop cracks and either Republicans will change or the Party will fall apart.
I was recently up to become a member of my local Executive Committee but was voted down 31-8. Based entirely on the fact that I was asked if I would support John McCain, I said NO. But I still believe I and the two other precinct members that were up for a vote and didn't make it made a difference because... I was the first vote and by the third person the vote was 21-18. I intend to continue to go to the meetings and support local candidates and talk to some of the members who were kind to us.
We need to remember that we need to band together as local communities against the Federal Govt. We need to shift the idea from Republican vs. Democrats to Local vs Federal. We need to encourage local politicians to refuse Federal Money and make their own decisions. It's worth it!
Mike
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Until there
is complete monitoring and regulating by machina, there remains only humans on all ends of the spectrum. This means that NO party in invulnerable. All have their own human failings. (Diebold remains a tool, remove it and you remove it from the master's hand.)
Keep your guards up, revolutionaries. And keep up the fight.
The one thing I hope
is that there is a clear candidate. Hopefully Dr. Paul. If we become fragmented between, Barr, Baldwin, Ventura our numbers mean nothing.
I like hearing of such activities as described in this
article. The notion, that Paul forces are the main group mounting a challenge to the neocons, as well as the draconian measures that have been used in attempts to squelch that challenge, shows:
1. The neocons are not invulnerable.
2. Even if McCain ultimately prevails, the victory could
be as ashes in his mouth.
One particular quote from the article says that the tactics of the Paulites could result in:
“perhaps 30 times the 21 delegates they are officially entitled to based on the state primary results,” (goodbye McCain nomination)
Oh but for that to become a reality. When I think of the national TV convention coverage that could result from it, my mouth begins to water. I think this is the greatest grassroots struggle I have ever seen mounted in the GOP.
Blowback
Its coming and its big
The Revolution
The Revolution, while peaceful, should remain strong and forceful. The statement "Some are suggesting that instead of trying to seize control of convention after convention, the Paul people could have laid relatively low and worked within the system and probably sent even more delegates to the national convention than they are likely to now," is only true if you base it upon the belief that McCain is truly a popular "presumptive candidate." In my opinion, he is being force-fed by the party "bosses" and if we had but laid low and not been highly visible, the message, which is The Revolution, would not have been heard by those who are not enchanted with McCain and were perhaps Romney or Huckabee supporters. We are here to save the Republican party from itself by pointing out that McCain is too liberal for the Republican base to stomach.
By the action of Ron Paul supporters, these delegates have now seen the process of an honorable candidate being marginalized and his supporters being cast aside as though they had no right to a voice. So far as the "seizing control of a convention" statement goes, we did nothing illegal and we only used the tools available at meetings and by virtue of Roberts Rules of Order which were available to all. We had a voice and we used it. This is still America...and we do not intend to lose it, and I for one, am proud of our actions and support.
IT'S DOABLE
Fingers in the dyke
No, not that one..... pervs...
This election cycle will end, and these 'Leaders' will have engineered the worst GOP election year thrashing since the fall of the Nixon administration.
(This is when the Trotsky Democrats switched parties, to become the neo-cons, and now another anti-liberty faction will bite the dust)
So, who is out there, that is going to the GOP meetings AFTER the election?
The liberty movement will take over the GOP, committee by town committee.
In Lucas County Ohio, a
In Lucas County Ohio, a judge has repeatedly postponed our County Republican Pary organizational meeting due to a big fight over control of the central committee. I don't know if any of you out there remember or were aware of the Tom Noe, CoinGate scandal in which the state of ohio, under Ken Blackwell, used Taxpayer money to fund a rare coin investment fund in which Tom Noe stole millions. To be sure, when this settles down, I'll be attending the meetings and make sure the Paulista's have a voice.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Bump
Needs to stay up - Bump
The GOP has sunk to a very low level, when
they have to suspend the Nevada caucus because "their" boy is not going to win there. And to possibly re-convene in a "secret" caucus to get their desired outcome? How low can you go? I'll vote Obama, before I vote McCain. Eat dirt GOP........you're no longer worthy of leadership, and haven't been for 8 years.
Maybe it's
time to take over as the state party bosses and change the conventions to a more "Freedom" friendly kind. There are other things we could change also. I attended our local Republican meeting this week and was amazed at how no one questions these people. There were two Ron Paul supporters and a lady I know who was on the ballot to be a delegate for Huckabee. I didn't know where the other people stood except the chairman, he was a die hard Fred supporter. Someone asked about McCain signs and he said none will be available until probably September and then we would be needed to volunteer to pass them out. These people are true sheeple. If we can get in an get elected as the State bosses maybe we can change the masses.
You know,
I've been meaning to ask someone about this. I was thinking about going to my local GOP meetings but I'm afraid they're going to try to get me to support other neocons and I really don't want to make things awkward. How have you dealt with that?
I have been going to GOP
I have been going to GOP meetings for months, ever since RP said to. The people are mostly old and mostly Huck supporters now flag-flying for MCCain't . They do not really listen when I speak of Ron Paul. They are, however, happy to have me on their committees working with them, which I have been doing. They know I will not vote for Mickey. On June 2 I will see if they will send me to the State convention like they have promised. I am expecting that they will. They do not really like "passionate" as they are real southern and quiet-acting, so I would not fit in anyway, even if I was FOR McCain't. They do seem to do as they are told, by someone, and have been somehow indoctrinated to "unify". These are just "good old boys" (mostly VERY old) in the community. Somewhere there is a "teen republican" group, but I have not seen them. I have been talking to the head of the Republican Woman's group and think I may have gotten her to read his book, but she would prefer an audio book and I do not have one (DARN!) She is also a teacher, and would be a good person to convert..lol
There is NOTHING to fear from these local groups. Nothing. Join them.
align yourself with a meetup
align yourself with a meetup group and all of you go to the meeting together-you are not alone. If there is not a meetup in your area-create one
I went this week for
the first time to our local GOP and I don't know if I can go back. These people are ridiculous. They don't question anything and the chairman doen't really care. I really felt like I didn't belong.
Treason
Is vote fraud treason? If not, it certainly should be. The GOP "leaders" should be arrested immediately on charges of treason or at the very least fraud!
Can someone make a citizens arrest?