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Don't Feed the Fat People in Mississippi

After several months of heated resistance among restaurant and bar owners in Harrison County Mississippi...A county wide Smoking Ban was put into law..and thereby making it illegal to light up in ANY public place (including parking lots etc.) countywide..

Each evening our local news reports on the financial fallout, as restaurant and bar owners go on air to show how their businesses have been adversely affected by this decision...Trust me...It's not good..Some businesses have closed in protest or due to lack of patronage because of this new law...In our tough economic times, owners say this was the last straw.

Personally, I think that business owners, not the government, should have the right to run their businesses as they see fit. I also believe that if a county votes for and chooses to enforce a Smoking Ban, they should therefore ban all sales of tobacco products and religuish taxes collected from them. (my 2 cents) I mean, let's be fair.

But, this new "fat" bill presented, shows the height of which our elected officials will try and reach into our lives..Although it is not likely to pass, just the thought of having it gotten to the floor of our states legislator is frightening.

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We have smoking bans in

We have smoking bans in Colorado. Even the 'Limited-Stakes' ($5 MAX bet) casino's have forbid smoking. I know that they have complained about lost sales as well as bar owners complaining about lost sales. The matter should be up to the establishment and not the state.

Also.. I have family in Mississippi and I grew up in the tri-state area and I have to say there are LOTS of overweight people in the area. It's a huge problem. But you know the cause don't you? It's all that really good and fattening food. The food down south is SOOOOO good yet soooo not good for you. Several in my family are severely overweight. :-(

Southern food is good

but I believe a great deal of the problem is in the newly acquired sedentary life styles ( and jobs)...and fast foods due to noone cooking at home anymore (where the really good food was anyway)...
Southern food has always been good...but we didn't have a weight problem until recently...so there are other factors to be considered in determining the cause of "America's overweight problem"...
I was looking at some old town photos (Farmer's Day) from the 1950's...and it was surprising to note that there there were NO overweight people...all the adults and kids in the pics were slim...it was a sobering realization of what is happening in America

When...

I was in 7th grade we had a teacher who was obese...We regarded her almost with a freakish fascination...This was because in the seventies this was an uncommon sight ,I suppose....

On a strange note...My mother went off her psyche meds this past week and we had to bring her to the emergency room...blah, blah blah..

One to never hold her tongue anyway, this time was no exception..

"Look at yourselves !" she screamed at the hospital staff and patients "You're all fat ! Look at your big asses! You can't even bend over ! Don't look down your nose at me with all that fat hanging on your bones!"

I apologized to people...but had to admit(inside)...she was right.
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In the Seventies almost

In the Seventies almost everyone was on drugs. That's why the population was so slim. People were on pills, booze, cocaine, and they were sucking cancer sticks like there was no tomorrow.

The "fat epidemic" has been caused primarily by the elimination of smoking, most likely. Although there are many fat smokers, smoking cessation is almost always accompanied by weight gain. Which means the Health Nazis may have inadvertently caused it..!

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That's too funny..

My dad did that too...to a very overweight "nurse"...he was 86 and heavily medicated...LOL

You're right, of course! I

You're right, of course!

I guarantee you that a person who works out aerobically every day on a treadmill, bike, or jogging trail could eat chicken-fried food with cream gravy, bacon, and cobbler three meals a day, and he would never become obese.

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LOL

Here's some of our "aerobics" when I was growing up in the 50s...

We played in the fields and creeks and rode bikes.
We walked to school or walked to the bus stop
We worked in the gardens.
We had to walk blocks to go shopping downtown, not around the mall
We mowed with push mowers.
We washed clothes and hung them outside on the line.
We didn't have remotes and used hand tools
We picked blackberries and sold them for spending money
We walked up/down the steps
And we had to use hand signals and roll down the car windows by hand as well as use hand fans in church 'cause we didn't have air conditioning (that's worth about 2 lbs.)

Yep, they should import

Yep, they should import Yankee chefs to thin down the population with their bad food...or worse still, BRITISH chefs!

Just joking. People have a right to be fat.

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I am very proud to say

that my closest town to me has "Banned smoking bans". LOL . I love wyoming....

Amazing:

No one expects the bill to pass. They do expect a lively discussion in subcommittee about ways the state can solve its' obesity problems.

I am betting (and hoping) that they don't get the "discussion" they are thinking they will get on the subject. Perhaps people will let them know that if they could have decent jobs at a pay that would afford decent food instead of what's least expensive to feed their families maybe they wouldn't have such a problem. I can remember times when it was all I could do to keep the table ready for growing children and provide nutrition at the same time. Unbelievable! aaaahhhhhhhh

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Decent jobs?

I don't know that a "decent job" will keep those that are so inclined out of the McDonalds drive-thru lane or the all-u-can-eat buffet.

The friction between smokers

The friction between smokers and non-smokers is never going to go away as long as we have to breathe the same air. There was a discussion about this on another thread that got me to thinking about it. Property rights are supreme, but if we are to maintain businesses with the premise that it is open to the general public, then we have to remember that our personal liberties reach only as far as to when they begin to erode the rights of others. I say if a proprietor wishes to have a smoking establishment, then he should have it. But advertise it as such. I know in my state some people chose to make their establishments private clubs where you had to pay a fee to be a member and have your name on a membership list in order to enjoy that facility. I'm sure there will be some crank who will employ the ACLU and sue to gain entry as a non-smoker and try to ruin it for everyone, but that is another matter.

I am a former smoker who regrets the countless number of times I offended friends and strangers with my cigarette smoke, ashes and stink. I have a niece who gets deathly ill whenever she is exposed to cigarette smoke, her sister, gets asthma attacks from it.

Please smokers, remember. Your right to smoke does not supercede the right of others to breath clean indoor air.

Now, about the fat bill. I don't know what to say about that. That's just wrong.

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Things are only impossible until they are not.
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I strongly disagree and I'm

I strongly disagree and I'm also a former smoker. I smoked for fifteen years.

You are incorrect in your statement "Please smokers, remember. Your right to smoke does not supercede the right of others to breath clean indoor air." Smoking is an annoyance, not an immediate threat to health--you have no "right" to breathe clean air in a private establishment, any more than you have a right to tell the owner of a restaurant what sort of food he should serve, a casino owner what sort of card games he can deal, or a club owner what sort of music he can play on his dance floor.

You have no say in the matter, according to the philosophy of private property rights and the Ninth Amendment of the US Constitution.

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Thanks Kevin..

That is what I was thinking.
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Total control

is what they're seeking.

What to eat, drink, smoke, etc.

If I want to weigh 300lbs and smoke 4 packs a day that's no one else's business but mine as long as I'm not asking anyone else to pay for it. (No, I don't weigh 300 lbs or smoke 4 pkk/day)

A business owner has every right to post a "This is a Smoking Establishment, If You Don't Like It Please Eat Elsewhere" sign on the front door if a restaurant or club.

Why to the health Nazis think it is their right to tell everyone else how to live? If I'm a smoker and my tax dollars paid for that county street, parking lot, etc....Why shouldn't I be able to use it to smoke; it's not like it's inside a building where other people have to be trapped in with the smoke.

Sounds like they're aiming for complete control of the sheeple in that county; and it's time for some new elected officials in that place. Glad I don't live there!

"health Nazis"

Its interesting to note that all totalitarian countries are into the health of their "masses" -- we have all seen the stadiums filled with poor slaves doing gymnastic stuff to please their master. Hitler and the Nazis were also into the health of the Aryans (Jews were left unhealthy -- if not made unhealthy). The "Hitler Jungend" were the historic outcome of the "Turnverien" German health/sports movement. Yes, balanced meals (along with group exercising) are not uncommon in prisons, military camps, and fascist groups. Other than the clown Mussolini, the other dictators don't look too healthy (Castro was healthy but now he is paying the price for those wonderful Cuban cigars). Hitler was a bit pasty, and whatever the name of the dwarf it is who runs North Korea he looks like a sick "Chucky". Ron Paul, by the way, is in perfect shape, runs or bikes a mile or so daily -- and doesn't order you to join in.

Stirner.

Right..I am a smoking

Right..I am a smoking business owner and Huck did this to the state of AR. It is a terrible law, and I will go to jail for it in my own business if necessary.

I agrre sistagirl86

But if you're glad you don't live here...Just google "smoking bans and you'll see this happening everywhere...Georgia is flirting with a state wide ban...

I feel it's one of the most intrusive legislations on individual rights and rights of business owners (who pay the rent, by the way).

But the Obese Bill, which would make it unlawful to serve a person deemed overweight sent shock waves through our state. It certainly doesn't mean that it couldn't become a law at some point in time..Just not now.

And at that time you may have to be measured and weighed before allowed to be seated.
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"I have once heard that the ability to resist temptation is the truest measure of a mans character."

Dustin Hoffman to Steve McQueen
"Papillion"

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We have had a smoking ban

for quite some time now in all public places ... and yes, it has affected bars and pubs right across the country.
In Summer not a real problem, we go and sit outside, but in Winter, or any colder sort of weather... the pubs are empty.

It's an example of hypocracy. Laws to forbid smoking but not illegal to sell it. Again, follow the money.

I agree

If smoking is as dangerous as all the governmental research claims it is...it should be declared illegal.
But I guess the government needs the tax money...and there is a lot of it on cigarettes.Over half of the price is either state or federal tax.
I always wondered how government could justify taxing a substance that their own research has proven is ADDICTIVE...hmmm...the government is as greedy as the tobacco companies??? No shame.

Perhaps eventually they can accuse smoking parents of child abuse...or at least take their children away for smoking in their homes and endangering the children. Then they can get more free children and keep the tax money rolling in at the same time. What a plan.

Tobacco should stay legal

Tobacco should stay legal and recreational drugs like cannabis should be legalized.

I know, you were making a point on taxes. If any drug has been proven dangerous enough to be outlawed, it's alcohol. In its stronger varieties, it's as dangerous as heroin.

We should legalize all drugs.

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Yes

Kevin, I agree. If you can get ALL the drugs you want in prision, then what the in the h-e- double hockey sticks is the drug war all about? It's pointless. They make more money keeping it illegal. That's the real point. They have taken our rights and made a profit in doing so.

I agree Kevin & bfree

Alcohol and Cigarettes are kept legal...they are the most used drugs by all levels of society...and provide quite a little tax source for the government. The illegal drugs are used for other controling purposes...it's a two edged sword...and either way...the people lose... and the government wins...