I never thought I would see this in my United States...
Posted May 25th, 2008 by shovelhead
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This is a true story, believe it or not, that I personally witnessed this evening...
First of all, I live in the backwoods of Maine. The smallest lot around me is probably ten acres - mostly farmland. My buddy, that lives a couple of lots over, called me this eve and asked me to come over and have a few beers. They had a fire going and they were having a blast on their ATV's - riding around on their own property.
As I pulled up, my friend was laying on the ground, with his girlfriend (who lives there) over him. Apparently (according to the "official" story - he's had a few DUI's), he had fallen off the ATV that his girlfriend was "driving" when they hit a good sized bump, and been pretty badly injured. His girlfriend called 911 (first mistake), and soon, the driveway looked like a 4th of July parade - filled with fire trucks, ambulances, and one of our two county deputies.
They hauled him off to the hospital, but stopped me when I tried to follow with his girlfriend. The deputy said we had to stay until the Game Warden arrived. Over a half-hour later (it's a big county), the Game Warden pulls up to investigate the scene, since it involved an ATV - remember, this was on "their" property. Since my buddy had partaken of quite a few beers, and his girlfriend had downed a few too, the warden (appropriately named, it seems) asked her for her driver's license (even though it had nothing to do with "driving") and ran her through a field sobriety test IN HER OWN DRIVEWAY...
Well, she "passed" the test and was allowed to leave with me to be with her boyfriend at the hospital over an hour after they took him to the hospital.
It took every ounce of willpower to keep my mouth shut during this whole thing (I'm an old USMC vet who still believes in liberty). I have a few questions that I hope you guys can consider:
1) The deputy stuck around until the "warden" said she passed her field sobriety test. Did he stick around in case she needed to be arrested for DUI?
2) Is it now against the law to get drunk and ride around on your own property?
3) Would we have been "arrested" if we tried to leave their property before the "warden" showed up?
4) Could we have told the deputy and/or "warden" that they were trespassing and to leave?
5) Who's property is this, anyway?
6) Holy crap... Why am I even asking these questions??? What the hell is this, the USSR???
I gotta say, the sight of my buddy's girlfriend dancing around with her foot in the air in her own driveway - dancing to the "warden's" tune was, almost, too much...
Yours in Liberty,
Shovel
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Lots of good questions I'd say. Wish I knew.
But, the Game Warden, whats next, the Park Ranger, Border Patrol maybe.
This is a tough question
Normally, I would say that individual property rights should be the only thing that matters but then I thought about the situation details. The guy was pretty badly hurt and someone called and requested emergency services. Let's say that the guy went to the hospital and died. This now turns into a possible homicide. The law enforcement officer was probably overly efficient but did obtain valuable information which might later be used in court, such as identification (driver's license) and a blood alcohol test.
I think the best way we can protect our individual liberty is to first know our rights under the law. Discussing this is the first step, and we all should research and understand our own state and local laws. That way if you are ever in a situation where an "official" seems to overstep his/her bounds you can educate them and stand your ground.
This is good thinking. It
This is good thinking. It does make the question tougher. I do not think they could have arrested the woman if drunk, but it would be important for the records, as she was driving, if something happened to the man.
+1
+1
An attorney
may be the one to answer these questions.
Is it still private property when using an ATV? Are ATV's registered or licensed in your state? This is sad.
I know they can arrest a man on a horse for DUI if he's in a public area or along side the road.
Ron Paul believes in individual liberty
People who support Ron Paul believe in individual liberty. This post is directly about individual liberty. So we do give a shit.
DUI might not have stuck
due to being on private property but they have a catch all called "Reckless endangerment" which they can and do use if nothing else will work.
allodial title?
explain.
Think its covered in the
Think its covered in the Constitution Classes...
Sorry but you do not own the property.
The state owns it. When will you wake up? You don't even own your car.
Yes you do not own either even after you pay it off in full.
First of all Federal reserve notes are not money they are notes.
They are a promise to pay but not payment in and of itself.
artice 1 section ten of the US constitution says that " No state shall make anything but gold and silver coin legal tender.
Next years ago after you paid off your house you would get a owners deed but now you get a tenants deed. So you are a tenant on your own land unless you know how the get allodial title.
I would guess you do not from your written orals it seems you need to learn a few things.
Good luck!
We are all well aware of our
rights."They" just can't seem to remember that we have any rights at all!