Did anyone notice that Bob Barr's website is an EXACT copy of Dr.Paul's?
Posted May 26th, 2008 by badfish0116
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OK OK I know I,m not supposed to post any more BARR crap on the site but I just had to do it. I am a long time lurker here at Dp. Actually I have lurked on this site since the day it was started. Some of the most relevant info I have gotten on the election has been from this site. I have just never posted here. But after I saw the massive amounts of Bob Barr spam on here it made me so freaking mad I just had to post here.This guy is an OBVIOUS shill. He voted for the patriot act and the Iraq war, he is an ex CIA agent( there is no such thing as an "ex-cia agent") and he is trying to copy exactly what Ron Paul is has done. Actually I dont think Dr.Paul has done much at all. It is the grassroots supporters that have done all the work and that is why Barr will fail. Nobody likes him. Screw Bobb barr and all the Barr spammers just stop. Go start the dailybarr if you want to Point is we know he is running,we dont support him,leave us alone about bob freakin barr already!!!
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Not surprising
I guess they think if they copy everything Ron Paul, he can just glide in at this late date and pull supporters from him too. Kind of funny in a sad way.
Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin or BUST
Bob Barr is a very dangerous man and does not represent the Good Doc in any way
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I gave Barr the benefit of the doubt at first
but I became less convinced of his greatness upon further research.
Ron Paul is my man. If I can't vote for Ron Paul in the fall, I will vote for Baldwin, because I know he will be on the Alaska ballot. I may not be able to write in Ron Paul, though. But Barr is out of the question for me, I am not impressed.
Ron Paul is a rare man, and finding anyone even remotely close to him is tough.
has anyone noticed how
has anyone noticed how little he actually has written in regards to where he stands on issues. There's three or four paragraphs on three general issues.
the only thing promising about this guy is the abolition of the income tax but whenever someone mentions repealing the 16th ammendment I think they know they can't do it. Alan keyes had the right idea, pardon everyone who refuses to pay income tax while president until congress adopts national sales tax.(genius).
yes, I did notice... in
yes, I did notice... in fact, it was even mentioned that he used the same company for the design in a CNN article....
I don't care... it's not like Ron Paul has exclusive rights to one design company... in fact, of all the candidate websites I've seen, Ron Paul's is by far the most attractive (to me anyways)... there's not a lot of excess/fanciness... it's simple, clean, has information you need and want, isn't exaggerated... it's exactly how I would do it... So, it makes total sense to me why the Barr campaign would do that... it doesn't make me mad at them... it's strategy I guess... try and make it look welcoming and familiar to Ron Paul people... makes sense.
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AND NO BANK!
Personally
I'd really like to hear what Ron Paul has to say about Bob Barr and his candidacy.
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Okay here are Ron Paul's quotes about Bob Barr
May 9, 2008, Reason magazine:
When asked if he would be endorsing either Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr, Ron Paul replied:
"Chuck was in my office today to say hello," Paul said. "but I haven't said anything about supporting either one of them. I support both of them in what they're doing, and I encourage them, but that's all."
NO ENDORSEMENT. NO OFFICIAL SUPPORT. He is keeping his distance and being polite and THAT's ALL.
http://www.reason.com/blo...
It is my understanding
that they are somewhat friends. But I heard that he said he would not be endorsing Barr. But both of those little items are hearsay.
I remember someone asked him this
Fortune Favors the Bold
And he said "I'm not going to tell them what to do. Who knows? Some of them might vote for Nader."
Ron can't endorse anyone
Ron can't endorse anyone from another party... it's kind of the unofficial rules.... And especially for Ron Paul. I have heard threats from big names in the GOP that Ron Paul should be kicked out of the party if he were to endorse Bob Barr, so I'm sure that goes for anyone else.... they're already pissed at him for not dropping out and "preventing" party "unity."
The same company that designed Ron's site designed Bob's
That's it. That's the extent of the conspiracy. Now, back to our regularly scheduled bickering.
Doesn't explain why they are Identical.
The same company that designed my dark blue tennis shoes also designed my bright orange headband.
I bought two new pairs of New Balance shoes
a few months ago. They were identical except for the color.
Think of it that way. Both pairs of shoes were sold to me, each one meeting a particular need, and each one was appealing to me.
Poor analogy
The shoe company has an interest in designing multiple styles. the individuals behind Barr's site may have just gone with what they know best. Is their effort intended to have many styles or one effective product?
My guess is, given Paul's success, they decided to go with what worked when constructing Barr's.
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Alright we tried to be civilized but it looks like they didn't
Alright we tried to be civilized by all the people that requested that Barr's stuff stay on one thread - so much for promises.
By the way, TerraEclipse does Ron Paul's site and they also do Bob Barr's site, as a matter of fact the owner of TerraEclipse was at the Libertarian Convention and was supporting Bob Barr -
bedr1 Barr Shill is the one asking to keep all Barr coms n1 thre
Wow! bedr1 the one of the few CIA Barr supporters here is the one trying to put us into just one thread for Barr. It remainds me of the "free speech" zones they try to pen us into.
I'm starting to think bedr1 might be a bit more than a shill.
Well, let's say you corraled
Well, let's say you corraled all your commentary into one thread.
This would accomplish two things:
(a) It would permit you to tell all your friends who agree with your point of view which thread to chime in on.
(b) It would placate the people yelling and cursing and keep them at bay.
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Others requested the Barr
Others requested the Barr topics be moved to one thread and bedr1 graciously complied. He never requested such a thing.
Ha ha ha wasn't my idea -
Actually if you look back at my posts - you will see a posts from a couple of people requesting that - NeoConned was one of them and whoever else.
Doesn't matter to me, I was just trying to be cordial
Actually just scroll up on this post and you will see NeoConned asking for it here to
BORISIMO apologises to bedr1. Others requested 1 Barr thread
Sorry bedr1, it does seem others requested the single thread.
Borisimo
I never made any request for
I never made any request for you to "be civilized" and hold it to one thread. We NEED to discuss Barr.
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hmmm
You seem to know ALOT about Bob Barr's campaign. Are you working for his campaign directly or indirectly? Also Billydee says that you might as well vote for Bob Barr because ron paul wont be eligible for write in status in many states. Bob Barr wont even be on the ballot in a majority of the states. How can you intrust a man that was Ex-CIA voted for wars of agression and draconian laws such as the PATRIOT act? Really I dont get that.And bedr1 If you wanted to be truly civilized you would sstart your own website like DailyBarr.com.
No Badfish, I work for the Ron Paul campaign
No Badfish, I work for the Ron Paul campaign, I have been studying Bob Barr for a few weeks now, trying to learn all I can about him.
I am actually a district coordinator for the official campaign, and I am still pushing Ron Paul and actually have had the opportunity to work with some of his staff. However, we need a Plan B, thats all I am saying. The reason Dr Paul is so successful is people love him, they follow him, its very hard to get people to understand that we may not win at the Republican Convention. However, we have a movement, we need to let people see the power of our movement, wether its getting 15,000 people to St Paul, or pushing Bob Barr who is the only guy with a real chance to make noise, I do like Baldwin, but I don't see it going anywhere.
As you can see I have been on here for along time, so I am not a troll, or a newbie to the site.
Barr is "ex" CIA and voted PATRIOT ACT and WAR!
bedr1,
How do you jump from supporting Dr. Paul to supporting an ex CIA, patriot act, war voting neocon. What....? What.....? Oh... I see....
Barr repented! You shills are a joke!
Borismo, Bob Barr heroically
Borismo, Bob Barr heroically "watered it down". He "helped protect against it" before voting for it, according to his fans. He put a Sunset Clause in it. (You may note the sunset provision expired, the Congress reenacted it, and now it's still going strong.)
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Not everyone joined in on
Not everyone joined in on the complaint. Post wherever you like as far as I'm concerned. I enjoy talking with you, bedr1 and I respect that you politely moved your conversation to one thread. Thanks for being considerate, even though it isn't mandatory.
Please post your bob barr
Please post your bob barr posts here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
We don't need to suppress
We don't need to suppress posting the "Barr crap". We need to have it all out.
Barr is an opportunist hoping to cash in on OUR movement, and so is his annoying Veep Root. I was watching Root on Youtube and the first thing he said, by way of introduction, was "I think I can get people excited with the dynamic, youthful, enthusiastic speaking style and message that really will catch the attention of all the young people that followed Ron Paul".
So there you have it. These two Republitarians want to sop up OUR votes like gravy. We are their target audience.
Hence, discussion of Barr is very important, because we need to remind all people in the Ron Paul Revolution what Barr really stands for and what his voting record shows.
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Dr Paul created the new Bob Barr
Barr is a convert of Dr. Paul's. This exactly what Dr. Paul has been trying to do - convert people to his general philosophy. Why not welcome him with open arms into the libertarian-conservative revolution?
And what the hell are you talking about "sopping up votes?" Dr. Paul is not going to be running in the general election. He's not even going to file the papers to become a write-in candidate in the various states. Barr is not taking votes away from Dr. Paul.
Dr Paul created the new Bob Barr
Barr is a convert of Dr. Paul's. This exactly what Dr. Paul has been trying to do - convert people to his general philosophy. Why not welcome him with open arms into the libertarian-conservative revolution?
And what the hell are you talking about "sopping up votes?" Dr. Paul is not going to be running in the general election. He's not even going to file the papers to become a write-in candidate in the various states. Barr is not taking votes away from Dr. Paul.
"Sopping up votes" = Hoping
"Sopping up votes" = Hoping to capitalize upon and profit from, politically.
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So we should accept anyone
So we should accept anyone who claims to have seen the light and makes a page that looks just like Ron Pauls?
Maybe if Barr sniffles and
Maybe if Barr sniffles and cries on TV like Hillary Clinton did, all our brains will turn to mush and we'll go vote for him.
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Well said, that's a good logical rebuttal
Don't you Barr supporters like to have a track record of consistently that you can look back on?
Barr sounds like a complete newb. He should read some Ayn Rand or Murray Rothbard.
I've read them both
I disagree with Rothard's natural law philosophy. I'm a consequentialist. Rand's philosophy is disjointed, in that she says she opposes initiation of force but at the same time rejects market anarchism. Otherwise, she's good.
Yes
Of course.
I judge based upon proof and
I judge based upon proof and voting records. I'm sure there are PLENTY of candidates seeking the Libertarian nomination who can claim they never voted for the Patriot Act. I'd rather vote for one of them.
Hubris, don't be silly there are no elected Libby US Representat
Hubris, don't be silly there are no elected Libertarian US Representatives
It was easy, they never had to vote.
It is well known that Bob Barr is the most Libertarian Member of Congress next to Ron Paul.
That is besides the point.
That is besides the point. Whether they had the opportunity or not is irrelevant, they can still make the claim. Bob Barr is worse because he had the chance to vote against it and he let us all down.
I might also add that Bob Barr is a *Republican* seeking the nomination not a Libertarian. Many of the people seeking the Libertarian nomination were not always Libertarians. Mike Gravel for instance.
What am I missing? I
What am I missing? I understand not voting for Barr because you don't trust him. But calling him "..an opportunist hoping to cash in our movement...", what does he hope to gain? He has no chance of winning, so how does he gain by running?
He's an opportunist, what
He's an opportunist, what about that word don't you understand?
What does anyone hope to gain from running for office? Fame, fortune. Future speaking engagements for money. Prestige. And so on.
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Visited the site
Wow. It's just like Ron's site. There is something really disturbing about that. Anyone who votes for the Patriot Act under any circumstances will never get my vote. I hope people who respect the Constitution will join me in never compromising for any politician when it comes to disrespecting the foundation of America. You respect the laws all the time under all circumstances or not at all. Once you defy the Constitution, it becomes just a piece of paper.