Are You Required by law To fill out Census survey?

Article I, Section 2 of the US Constitution gives Congress the right to ENUMERATE the number of citizens in order to apportion members of congress: "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct."

Enumerate means "to count, or determine the number of". Congress can COUNT the number of citizens- but it can't demand to know what race we are, how much we earn, how many big screen TVs we own, or how many times we masturbate each day.

So when I get the census forms, I fill out the first question (the one asking how many people live at my home), then paste a copy of Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution right below that, along with a statement that I have fulfilled my duty as a citizen by helping them enumerate, and I'm not required to answer any more questions.

Never heard a peep from the Census bureau for doing this.

BTW, make sure you stick a RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT slim jim in the mailer when you send it back to them...

www.ronpaul2008.com

If Americans are afraid to to not submit a form given to them by the ones who call themselves masters, what will Americans do when they are faced with Tyranny's soldiers? Practice giving Tyranny the finger. Let them become afraid of those who will not submit to their "requirements". Trash the form and forget about it. What/who goes on in my home is protected information.

If you submit the form out of fear, may your chains rest lightly upon you.

If they send you another, repeat above.

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Lisa C.

http://www.women4ronpaul....

so far we haven't heard anything else about it. The questions were VERY personal! They wanted to know income, cost of rent/home, what time you leave for work, how many miles you drive, etc, etc, etc. It is a forty minute survey if I remember right. Basically they harass you for 90 days then eventually move on. I was grateful when I found these sites (and the first post on survivalarts includes a Ron Paul quote on the ACS!). Good luck!

http://www.survivalarts.c... and https://www.checkpointusa...

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The lesser of two evils is still evil!

Did you know that illegal aliens and foreign citizens are counted/estimated in the census? All people in the US are counted regardless of citizenship.

But here's the problem, guess what the census is used for?

It's used to determine the number of representatives and delegates.

So, the more illegals that can come across the border in California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas, the more representatives those states can get - they probably look at illegals as important population growth and maybe that's one reason McCain supports Amnesty.

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

You will notice that people start to keep a single topic thread going.

The Iranian Bourse was one, the Liberty Harvest/gardening thread (deleted twice already??), etc.

Today, people have tried to get single threads for Barr and for Baldwin.

People have also requested the same be done for FLDS discussions.

That way formal admin actions to create separate forums isn't necessary, but you can find/follow the single thread for weeks.

I'm glad you did not put this in the anything goes THREAD, i would have never found it in there.

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"RON PAUL SUPPORTER SINCE 1997"
RON PAUL 2008 / RE-ELECT 2012

Fill out the form to the extent you're legally required...which is the total number of people residing in your home and return the rest blank. There's nothing else they have the right to know.

Don't throw it away or ignore it...it's a damn good way to ensure the government will annoy you further. Beaurocrats don't like being ignored, and not only will you probably get a follow up visit from the Census Nazi's, but those slimes probably have the IRS, ATF, CPS, etc. on their speed dial.

Picture this...a lot of agencies are more than within their rights to begin a file on you...begin to harrass you. Don't give them a reason to.

I know it may offend your sense of freedom, but know this about beaurocrats...they may not make much money, may not have much power, but one power they certainly have is to really annoy you and make your life a living hell.

Pick your battles wisely.

by registered mail,how can they
prove you even got it?

If the relevant statute is not given so you can look it up for yourself then it's just a way to scare you. Otherwise I would just toss it. The IRS used to send me letters saying they were updating their files and requested that I sign under penalty of perjury that my address was correct. I figured that since it was delivered to my place of residence, their files don't need updating. I threw it out every time. If they really wanted to verify my address they could come and knock on my door. It hasn't happened.

have used since 1980. Under Title 5, Sec. 552a, a citizen of the U.S. is authorized by federal law to conduct an investigation into any inquiry regarding information being sought from that citizen. You can find the questionaire at:

http://www.patriotnetwork...

You might also consider asking the public servant if he or she:

1. Has any children
2. What are their names and ages?
3. Where do they go to school?

Wait till you see the chilling effect that has on the census taker.

Every time I've ever used it, the census taker goes off for a few hours and then comes back and says that they only need to know how many people are living in my house.......which is their only constitutional obligation. I give them a number, they thank me and they leave. Yes, I get the long form every time. No, I do not fill it out. The Census folks tell you that there has never been an "unauthorized" release of census information. What does that tell you? They do conduct "authorized" releases of census information.

"The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to criminate him. He owes no such duty to the state, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights. " Hale :vs: Henkel 201 U.S. 43 (1906)

Do right and fear not.

I told my wife about this and she seems to think that King Herod must be looking for Baby Jesus.

How odd but so appropriate a thought.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

And if they ever come to your door to follow up, simply tell them the number of people living there and THAT'S ALL. The Constitution gives them the authority to ask that ONE question - nothing more. And even if you refuse to answer that ONE question, there's almost zero chance that they'd try to prosecute you. See: http://tinyurl.com/33x9xa

http://groups.yahoo.com/g...

The Senseless Bureau is only Constitutionally authorized to enquire after the number of living humans in your household. All other questions are void. Write down the appropriate number (during decennial census years only) and leave the rest of it unmarked.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Professor Bernardo de la Paz

I know people who managed to dodge it. Might be a bit risky though.