I NOW KNOW EXACTLY WHY SOME PEOPLE WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR RON PAUL.

Is there such a thing as just plain independent? Is that what Jesse Ventura is going to do? Is it possible for Dr. Paul to go independent after RNC?? CP is only in 35 states, so can't win, as far as I can see. LP doesn't have the momentum to take off and win, imho. But Dr. Paul running, outside the system, just might win.

right on the money :)

Hes with the green party this statment right here and some of his other post its a dead givaway.

FOR THE EXACT REASON WHY I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR BARR OR BALDWIN. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND I REFUSE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

A true Ron Paul person would never say such a thing. Its not how we operate. We are not close minded people if we don't know something we rush right at it to figure it out. We have an exellent eye for details and we never open a door without closeing the last one. In short we cover our bases. This coment you have made is the comment of a closed minded person. This is not the quality of a Republican either they cover their bases to all outside activities they are only blind to what happens inside there party. No my friend you are something else. So what could that be.

I REFUSE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

Now this is the quality that definatly shines the light on your darkness. This is the exact opposite of what a Ron Paul person is this is intolarence. Sorry my friend this is not one of our traits. I was going to say democrat but the harshness of this comment was a little over the top for even them. Then the icing in the cake hiding in plan veiw. your name. Democrates are to smart try to come into a Ron Paul forum with a name like I hate Democrates. No I don't think so. So who are you are intolarent, rude, ignorant of whats going on in the world except the issues you want to talk about, and you seem a little GREEN! tell your communist leader nader your kind get sniffed out fast we know your here cause your poo poo is green. Take your propaganda elswhere pinko.

The people have been in this movement from the beginning know what is going on so before any of you people come in here and start acting like you know something you better really know what your talking about. Just because Ron Paul doesn't go around making all kinds of plans and sharing everything with every supporter does not mean that there are not some who actually do know what is going on. I have noticed alot of people who are coming in this forum that are pretty new to the movement. If your hear to learn thats great but if your here to undermine this movement. Sorry but the people on this frorum are protected by Ron Pauls Holding his cards close to his vest. So there is nothing here for you to tap into and if you try to misinform the Ron Paul fold there are wolf here that will sniff you out. And they do bite. These forums are for learning and teaching this is not the centralized power structure you think it is that is done somewere else. so misinforming is all that you can do here. And once someones eyes are open thats a pretty tall order. And don't forget they are protected by the wolfs.

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someone posted this on a meetup. Found it pretty interesting that a supposedly hardcore rightwing news company would be bundling large sums of donations for Mrs.Clinton.

too funny

I’m a 33 week DP user and RP supporter who has not been active in this forum for quite awhile but now I’m back and motivated again. My intention is to stay focused on helping to create a “miracle” in St. Paul for RP (he did say “victory in the conventional sense” is not possible but that doesn’t rule out victory in the “unconventional” sense, right?) So until the RNC is over, for me that’s the only game in town. However, I am willing to spend a little time sifting through the pro’s and con’s people are coming up with on Barr just so I can make up my mind about him in case RP doesn’t become the nominee.

To assist me in doing this I would like to hear any thoughtful explanations of one thing that is bothering me about the idea that Barr is a neocon plant in the Libertarian Party for the purpose of disrupting or dispersing us (RP supporters) from our campaign to get as many delegates as we can and to challenge McCain and the platform at the RNC.

Why would the neocon powers-that-be want Barr to join the race which would inevitably syphon off votes for McCain which would then probably ensure the victory of Obama in the general election? Why would the neocons want McCain to lose?

Help me out here. What do some of you think about this?

Too me, I'd say that is un-wavering support, often a sign of integrity. If your willing to sacrifice the message with an alternate choice, then we must ask why we do what we do. If your willing to settle for another spokesperson without regard to history, intent, motivation and meaning. You may slow the inevitable, though the TRUTH will eventually be told. BTW, I like the caps, makes it easier to read. "Onward" people, may the truth be told >>>>

What you believe too be true, is true too you...

Go ahead and be as narrow minded as your anti-Ron Paul friends. We can do without people who are so rude they post in all caps anyway.

Just give your friends copies of "The Revolution: A Manifesto" and you'll not need to speak a single word.

The dying Pequod.

Baldwin: the Constitution party is almost completely irrelevant.

Barr: I did do some research on this guy because I was excited that he might be just as good as Paul. Not the case. He is not for repealing the laws on all drugs (he has the gall to exempt crack and heroine).

He's a conservative...in the LP. What a joker.

I know you are also right about most people on this issue.

I, on the other hand, HAVE checked the others out enough to know WHY I am still a Paul devotee. I was hoping that someone would rise up that Paul could point out to us, but I don't see it happening. Baldwin comes the closest and the CP is not in all 50 states. To me he is not even a slight possibility. He is just spreading the word, which is cool, I guess. But really, I don't think he should be on any ballot if he cannot be on all ballots.

Our only hope is Dr. Paul and the Republican Party. LP would have been smart to simply say, unanimous for Paul and we won't run anyone this year. Both parties should simply have endorsed Paul and left it at that. I know LP ask him in 2007 to take it and he said no because that is all he could do at that point. He cannot take it until September. But in September, he could, if he didn't have to knock someone out of running. Now he can't. We have a no win situation here in the US, on many different levels.

What a childish post. Go back to licking neocon ass thats all you good for anyway.

(and I do'nt mean your user name) How could you not want Ron Paul. He is the only one who is not in this for his own gain. You keep repeating the same quote about the banks. Could it be you have just given in to the fact that the banks have won and no candidate matters? Ron Paul aknowledges that this country has been ruined by the banking sytem and the devaluation of the dollar. What other candidate does? Vote Ron Paul! Abolish the federal reserve! If you think it is dumb to at least try to diagnose the illness and treat the problem. Why are you voting, complaining,blaming.pssst.. do something I really do'nt get your rant against the rEVOLution. and the good folks getting involved trying to get our country back on track. Why not want to look into all candidates? ignorance does not give you or others the reasoning to judge us. It is your choice. But is a choice a choice if you do'nt even know your choices? Wish you the best on your journey for piece of mind in your decisions if you come to one. Good luck and God bless. Hope you will join us in our quest for freedom and justice for all. WE have to have hope for America!

when all the supermarkets are closed, the banks are closed, the gas stations closed and they get fired or laid off from work! those who have not prepared will wish they had known about Ron Paul! and I will tell them that... your hungary, thirsty? tough crap! you did not want to listen to me when I told you about ron paul.. tough crap... you didn't want to take the time to research the economy, and silver.. tough poop! now go find a hole to die in! when we needed your help to get delegates and to vote and you didn't--- they will get exactly what they derserve!,

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

I have no idea what the content of this message is. I didn't read it once I saw it was all caps. Stop doing that and I'll read your messages.

Baldwin has been out there on the Internet posting opinion columns--damn good ones--since the Clinton Administration. He's a writer.

I'm guessing back around 2000, you not only had never read any of his columns, but you had never heard of Dr. Paul, and you voted for George W. Bush.

Am I getting 'warm'..?

If you want to sound ignorant and type in all caps, that's your right, but don't affect superior attitudes while doing it.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

it is funny how people minds work. Unfortunately, for us the people who control the system know exactly how people think that is how they have been able to get away with so much mischief. They know how to get people to go to sleep, how to behave, and how to kill one another, steal from one another. Yes, they are very clever and they laugh at how gullible we are. There is no mercy only contempt for our stupidity. Now, you know how it works. What they did not figure on is Dr. Paul. They thought they had Dr. Paul contained. They are using every trick in the book to marginalize his campaign. GREENisBAD use this knowledge you have gained, as you go forward observe how you and your friends are being manipulated. When you get good at it point it out to you friends. Make a game of it, educate them to the dangers of going along. This is not just about a campaign this is about survival. Peace

"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson

Less than 50 % of those able to vote do. Of those 50% that do vote 80% don't know were the candidtes stand on issues!

I voted for Peroutka/Baldwin in 04 and everyone I know, knows I did, and everyone I know now knows I voted for Ron Paul, and I'll let them know who i decide on in Nov. Thats no excuse to not do your homework and pick one and educate people.

I think we have a collection of the most educated and enlightened people our nation has to offer...please don't assume we haven't digested Bob Barr thoroughly.

This man is spouting all the good libertarian talking points, but his history suggests otherwise.

First...he spent 8 years in the belly of the beast...the CIA.

He was a rank and file neocon for many years...he has been one of the most ardent supporters of the war on drugs, supported the federal ban on gay marriage, and has a voting record mostly along party lines. He voted for the Patriot Act and the Iraq War resolution.

After getting his butt kicked in 2002 elections, he began to criticize the Bush administration and the GOP in general. Only after his defeat did he express regret for the Patriot act and change his tune on the drug war.

Now this strikes me not as someone who saw the light and was awakened from his neocon stupor...it shows me an opporitunist who was one of the first rats to jump from the sinking ship.

Maybe he is genuine, and has dedicated his life to freedom...but I'll vote for Ron Paul regardless...I'd rather put my vote to a man who's been fighting for freedom since before I was born. He may be a better option than Hillary/Obama or McCain, but we're still voting for the lesser of 3 evils.

I'll vote Ron Paul even if that means bringing a pencil with me into the voting booth.

Actually I really Like Chuck Baldwin. He has always endorsed and written excellent articles about Ron Paul. Of course he doesn't have Ron Paul's impeccable voting record. But he does believe that the unborn are guaranteed the sames rights that we are, just as Ron Paul does. http://www.constitutionpa...
http://www.chuckbaldwinli...

Bob Barr on the other hand, voted in favor of the Patriot Act. That for me is a deal breaker.

Believe me, I would love to see a candidate come along who compares to Ron Paul...... But for me, this particular election is all about Ron Paul. I am proud that I recognize just how rare this once in a lifetime candidate is.

Well said, badfish. Kudos