Lisbon Treaty - Ireland decides
I'm a Ron Paul supporter currently in Ireland, and I'm not sure if we should vote yes or no for the Lisbon Treaty. My gut reaction is to vote no because big government is always bad, but i have not come to a definite conclusion, partly due to the incoherent nature of the treaty.
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Vote No
Having grown up in Ireland (Drogheda) I can tell you I have seen Ireland grow and prosper - from the days of socialism when RTE owned all media, to today with Capitalism and prosperity. The Lisbon Treaty will be a step back in the direction of socialism and lead to a loss of freedom and prosperity. Keep the Irish tradition alive and fight for freedom.
Ireland-save us from the ESU
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Propaganda
Terrible propaganda in the paper today, the Irish Independent. "Unemployment is way up! The dole queue's are rising! And many fear a No vote will make this worse". I didn't spend a lot of time reading it so I can't really say for sure but it seemed all pushing for the Yes vote in that paper. And a big advertisement for a Yes vote.
Punjabimuda is right. It is incoherent. I think it is probably designed that way.....
Does Ireland
feel their voting system is reliable; I hope so, unlike our electronic machines here that can be hacked and no paper trail. From article " Irish votes likely to sink EU treaty per polls ". "Ireland, uniquely in the Eupopean Union, is constitutionally bound to stage referendums on EU treaties, meaning that less thn 1% of EU population of more then 450 million has the power to determine the fate of the European treaties" Vote against it while you still have the right to vote. We will be rooting for you guys. What does it have to do with us? The NWO has to do with us all that is why the word world is in it.
Come on Irish! My roots are
Come on Irish! My roots are from there and I pray that you make the wise decision. Don't let the French or any other EU super power come and threaten you, don't disappoint yourselves. I'm not surprised that the left-wing parties are supporting "Yes" because they want to try and kill capitalism so they see it as an anti-capitalist vote. Please show that freedom doesn't have a specific place on the political spectrum and there are Freedom Fighters on the left, right and in the middle. And if it gets dirty, fight clean and tough, don't be afraid to stand up to them. I'm proud to have Irish blood and you have my 100% support because you'll need every ounce of enthusiasm. Outscore Yes big time tomorrow!!!
You and your fellow Irish
You and your fellow Irish Patriots should stand true to your proud history of fighting against tyranny! Tell all you countrymen we support them in saying no to this fascist treaty because that's what it is despite the pretty dress and lipstick they try to put on it!
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This is a very crucial vote
that could have a major impact on the NWO plans. You guys are being browbeaten to vote yes to something that is hard to read and understand for a reason. It is a linchpin for further erosion of sovereignty for all of you over there. Please keep us informed of any new developments before the vote takes place. Please tell everyone you can how important the NO,NO, NO vote is.
When is the vote?!!!??
how long now? :|
In two days we will know the results
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Posted June 6th, 2008 by Pieter
PLEASE TELL THEM HERE TO VOTE NO!
http://www.irish-friends-...
I am in Ireland now
And I heard on Sunday that the No vote had risen 6 points to 34 or 36 while the Yes is still on 42. Also, on Sunday there was a plane flying round Dublin with "Don't score an own goal (don't score a point against yourself), Vote Yes". And I had two people try to give me "vote Yes" leaflets. I wonder who is paying for that? If the EU 'pays'?
The Yes signs outnumber the No signs by about 2:1 although I saw more No signs had been put up yesterday (they are everywhere on the streetlight poles) and several had been ripped off (No signs only) and were on the ground or just torn. Those were the paper ones, the thicker cardboard ones were still up, although some had been folded in half, trying to hide it. Dirty tricks! I saw one Yes sign that had been written on.
The socialist and labour parties are encouraging a Yes vote and Sinn Fein (political part of the IRA or maybe less closely associated than that, I don't really know) are encouraging a No vote. And the other No signs don't seem to have names on them. One says 'People died for your freedom'.
I did see some people yesterday holding No signs and signs about Raytheon and the massacre at Qana in Lebanon in 1996. What this has to do with the EU is beyond me.
Vote NO, hon...
The freedom lovers of the world must help one another out, stick together and stay strong...
Think of it as a contract
Would you sign a contract that you didn't understand or seemed to be less than clear to you on purpose? This is how they have been able to enslave us with catch phrases that sound wonderful but before you sign up you better read the proposal even the fine print. Peace
Hilarious: Even the Irish Comissioner hasn't read the Treaty!
"There is just one area in which those in favor of the EU Constitution have failed just as completely as their opponents: no one has managed to make clear to the Irish people what is actually in the controversial document. At best 250 of Ireland’s 4.2 million citizens have read the complete text, estimates Ireland’s European Commissioner Charlie McCreevy. Even he himself made do with a summary."
http://www.spiegel.de/int...
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Vote no pls.
Save us from the socialistic EU.
How Ireland can once more save Europe from the Dark Ages
http://www.sbpost.ie/post...
(great article)
Closing papragraphs:
The arrogance and dishonesty of the Yes campaign, too, have been deeply depressing, as if somehow the need for workers’ rights, charters of fundamental rights, an end to cross-border sex trafficking, climate change and global warming somehow cannot be dealt with except in the context of Lisbon. Such nonsense is mere camouflage for the fundamental structural change between citizen and state that Lisbon is creating.
Over and beyond all of this, there is the growing tyranny of Europe’s obsession with environmental and gender politics, its secularisation and multicultural agendas, its interference with national immigration policies and, above all, its failure to combat the relentless transformation of our society into a mere marketplace. Imagine a future in a Euro superstate almost entirely at the mercy of free market forces.
Come to think of it, if we defeat this referendum, it won’t be the first time that the Irish rescued Europe from the Dark Ages. I am pro-European, but I also want to remain primarily an Irish citizen, not a mere statistic in a European superstate. Therefore, I am voting No.
no
Paul Gallagher, Attorney General of Ireland - with Ireland now set to anull the Treaty of Lisbon with a No vote, will Gallagher be asked to somehow find a legal way to change the vote from No to Yes (if he is that way inclined)?
this was taken from the prisonplanet.com site
Funny,
he is with the Bilderbergers this week-end.
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NO from Poland
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Great news
GO IRELAND! You rock. Let freedom ring. They want a global government. I say we give them a global "we the people". Don't give away your peoples freedom. You will regret is forever. Stay true to "YOUR" country. You are SOVERIEGN! stay that way. Don't be turned into just one of the 6 billion world sheep with no identity. You are "THE PEOPLE OF IRELAND" stand proud.
good news
THE LISBON Treaty could face a shock rejection with the No side now in the lead, according to the findings of the latest Irish Times /TNS mrbi poll.
It will take an unprecedented swing in the last week of the campaign for the treaty to be carried.
The poll shows the number of people intending to vote No has almost doubled to 35 per cent (up 17 points) since the last poll three weeks ago, while the number of the Yes side has declined to 30 per cent (down 5 points).
The number of undecided voters is still a significant 28 per cent (down 12 points) while 7 per cent won't vote.
source: http://www.ireland.com/ne...
Also visit http://boards.ie/vbulleti.... It is widely discussed there.
Go with your gut....It's 98%
Go with your gut....It's 98% right all the time.
USA and EU merching by 2015 ?
No joke! Read this article: http://www.thenewamerican...
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Oceania,
here we come!
1984? Was it?
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Yep
it was
Vote NO
Please keep Ireland free from tyranny. Irishmen and women are natural born fighters of freedom. Please, think of your children's futures!
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
The EU crap must be tossed
The EU crap must be tossed into the garbage pile.
come on ireland....
http://giantleapfromchaos...
please watch and comment
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Very informative.
and the EU Parliament voted against respecting the outcome of the Irish Referendum. See. 2:04
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It's up to Ireland...
to save civilzation (again)
its a win-win situation...
If Ireland votes no, then it will block the EU power grab and bring the whole debacle under question.
If they vote yes, then the other 26 States will be locked into this new union without the consent of the people. Once they realize how quickly the police state and big brother state is growing up around them, they will be likely to begin fighting against the EU.
Furthermore, the disaterous consequences of letting the EU take this power grab will persuade tons of Americans that if something like that should ever happen here we must fight it tooth and nail.
These elites are men of flesh and blood. What they are attempting to do is incredibly difficult for them, they have to be super cautious. They WILL make mistakes, and they WILL be exposed. The more they grab at power, the worse the blowback is going to be.
Eleven days left
until the Irish Referendum.
Take the chance we didn't have. Here a speech (with English subtitles) of one of the few German MP's who was cheeky enough to vote against the EU treaty http://www.youtube.com/wa... .
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ARE YOU FKEN INSANE? - If yes = vote YES.
http://video.google.com/v...
END of Nations and the EU takeover including the Lisbon Treaty
IRELAND is Europes LAST HOPE.
EU parliament to marginalize eurosceptic groups
http://www.telegraph.co.u...
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Ireland! Vote NO to Lisbon Treaty!
My thoughts and prayers go out to you! FIGHT!!!!
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"Ron Paul will win in the most spectacular way!!!"
Funny VOTE 'NO' Lisbon Treaty video!
http://ie.youtube.com/wat...
Give it a bump
We all should encourage the Irish opposed to the treaty. Visit their websites and give them a slap ont the bag. Are their websites for the "AY"-sayers? First time in my online-life I think about becoming a part-time troll.
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Catholic groups in Dublin are joining in Prayer to win...
a rejection of the Lisbon Treaty on June 12th
http://uk.reuters.com/art...
I hope your not voting on Diebold mahines...
because it wont matter what you vote!!!
No thankfully
no Diebolds here!
Then I hope patriotic Irish are vote counters...
and not EU officials.
Listen, VOTE NO BECAUSE:
It is exactly the same as the constitution the Dutch (which I am) and French voted NO on. In many polls 80% of all the European people want a referendum and they are being ignored one because they are too chicken to let the people decide. In Ireland they wanted to stop it, but becuase you still have some independent forces in your country, that was not possible.
* It's undemocratic;
* It is constitutional, and certainly not people friendly either;
* The freedoms's of the people will be severely less;
* Those in power in the EU already misused their power, and more is to come;
* Money is getting awfully wasted;
* The constitution is written to be totally unreadable (hint: no prime-minister has ever read it!);
* Open borders don't account criminality, mafia, poverty, country's employment status;
* The treaty ain't all that green;
* And because your (any participating) country (uh, state) will NEVER be allowed to quit from this pact;
This above are all facts. Just google on it or go to sites like this which have many info! http://www.free-europe.or...
Watch this 3 minutes videoclip! (Ireland's call - Vote no to Lisbon): http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Or this 2 minutes CNN news item about the EU superstate: (http://www.youtube.com/wa...)
EU union new Sovjet Union? 4 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Here some smuggled footage and how the peaceful non-violent Parliamentarians who protest for a referendum, who uphold democracy and freedom, being demonized by the EU president as nazi's!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
AND THERE IS MUCH MUCH MORE! VOTE NO, INFORM AS MUCH PEOPLE YOU KNOW! THE DUTCH VOTED NO! THE FRENCH VOTED NO, ALL THE POLLS BEING DONE TELL 80% THE EUROPEAN PEOPLE WANT REFERENDUM.
There is even a website where other Europeans vote to ask you to vote NO, but your media doesn't know or tell you about it! Our media also is very silent too.
http://www.irish-friends-...
Please give the right signal! Thanks!
EU Vote
Thanks, Pieter. I hadn't heard about this Irish 'No' site before. I've just signed the petition and look forward to promoting the finalised rally in London. Good luck to everyone and to everyone's young relatives and neighbours in our world & in our plea for humane freedom.
'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders and delegates at the front line and caucuses.
Good luck out there &Thank you. You're a gift.
Bless you, Worldwide Lovers of Liberty
I don't know anything about the Lisbon Treaty, but when I see so many fellow RP supporters boo-ing it down like this, I know it's gotta smell like yesterday's diapers.
I am touched and heartened to see so many international RP supporters. Your fight for freedom and your words to us to keep on with the good fight encourages little ol' me way over here in the States. Thank you for all your efforts!!
And don't give up whatever sovereignty you have left!!!!!!!!
vote NO
here in Poland true patriots know, that enlarging its influences EU bEUROcracy means nothing good. Ireland, you are small country but luckily our last chance. Please, save the Europe!
PLEASE PLEASE VOTE NO!
That treaty will further a disaster that’s been brewing since before the Union of Europe was formed. Whoever casts a yes vote will be partially responsible for the perpetuation of socialist ideology as well as the negative consequences.
--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!
Remember the movie braveheart? even though it was the Scottish think of the many countries, including the US, that have had patriots fight and die for our/their country only to have us/you give it away in ignorance.
Please wake up as many people as you can and have them vote it down. It's time humanity takes control for the benefit of the whole instead of the few.
what
What is the date of this vote? Please vote NO on this. It's the NWO at work. I would love to visit the country where my family has come from some day and it not be called West Britain.