Snag in deal to return Texas sect kids to parents

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Do you all think the media will converge on the Bilderberg Compound which sets itself up this year in Chantilly, VA?

All of those armed guards and world leaders meeting in one location, AND NO PEEP OUT OF THE MEDIA !!!

Portuguese Newspaper Admits Bilderberg Kingmaker Power

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

http://iperceive.net/walt...

Walther signs extortionary FLDS order
by Kurt Schulzke

The shame of Texas deepens as — in the face of contrary rulings by the Texas Supreme Court and Third Court of Appeals — Judge Barbara Walther today defiantly signed an order vacating only the piece of her original order against the FLDS that granted custody of the children to the State. The presumptions of guilt against the FLDS remain. The new order also falsely characterizes as an “adversary hearing” the three-ring circus that Walther conducted in her courtroom back on April 17-18, 2008.

It is clear that some of the children will be released under the order if the parents comply with its intrusive terms. It is an open question how many of the children will return home (or when) given that the State of Texas has bled the FLDS financially dry by scattering their children all across a State that talks big but is, in reality, a moral and legal ant.

When the children do return, it won’t really be “home” because Texas CPS will have the right to barge in any time during business hours. The Austin Statesman is reporting that all of the children can return home, but I’ll believe it when I see it. Additional insights on the Sunday negotiations that led to today’s order are offered by Brooke Adams.

A house is only a home if you enjoy the protections against search and seizure that all Americans are supposed to enjoy. This distinction is obviously lost on the judge who — for what reason God only knows — continues to preside over the case. Because of their religion and the venomous bigotry of Judge Barbara Walther, these Americans citizens are being denied their basic constitutional rights.

Barbara Walther should be removed from the case and replaced by someone who can judge impartially. If I were representing any of the FLDS in the case, I think my next move — after getting my kids back — would be to challenge this new order at the Court of Appeals. The agreement was reached under duress. It was, in effect, extortion and gives the State prerogatives that it should not have. The one who should be taking classes is Barbara Walther, not the FLDS parents.

it is a bad order. The families are essentially under house arrest, the mothers and fathers are forced to take state-approved parenting classes, and they must all remain in Texas indefinitely.

This is an incremental victory. The children are coming home. That is a joyous thing. Every day those children were separated from their parents was another day of irreparable harm against them. Willie Jessop, a YFZ spokeman, and some of the parents also say that the order is not the greatest, but it is important to get the children back home. I agree. I am sure the lawyers will be working behind the scenes to clear the names of the parents from CPS records, etc., but all of that legal wrangling and paper pushing can be done just as well with the children back in the loving homes of their parents. THE CHILDREN ARE COMING HOME. This is a time to rejoice and thank the Lord and all of those lawyers who have given so self-lessly for the last two months to reach this point.

Now, it's time to IMPEACH MRS. WALTHER. Of course if she can't be impeached, she should be UNELECTED at the next appropriate time, and the pending voter registration of about 500 FLDS members might just be enough to make sure that happens.

In the meantime, here's a petition to impeach Walther.

http://www.gopetition.com...

Spread it far and wide.

Blessings to all. And thanks to all for your efforts on behalf of these families.

AlaskaRon

I predict more stonewalling, and/or more bizarre restrictions on the FLDS in order for the kids to be returned.

Why isn't there any stopping this Walther character?

She's been overruled twice, so WHAT IS THE PROBLEM NOW?!?!?!!

Why can't the police march in there and handcuff her and then allow the kids to return to their parents - immediately?

What is the freakin' holdup !?!?!?!
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

OPEN LETTER TO KEVIN, DINNIN, BCFS

To: Kevin Dinnin, President Baptist Child and Family Services (BCFS) San Antonio, Texas

cc: Randel Everett, Exec. Dir. Baptist General Convention. BCFS Partners: Dowell Loftis-Shearer Hills Baptist Church; Jerry Daley, Macedonia Baptist Church; Neil Bennett, Churchill Baptist Church; Robert Welch, Park Hills Baptist Church; Charles Price, San Antonio Baptist Association.

Sir:

I understand that you, Mr. Dinnin, and/or related associates, were the incident commander who helped unlawfully seize and hold hundreds of babies, children and women, taken at gunpoint, from the FLDS ranch in Eldorado, Texas. In addition, as governor Rick Perry allowed, most of Texas' fostercare/adoption 'services' are 'outsourced'; meaning, you are under contract with the state of Texas. Your web site reports that you are still holding 75 FLDS children.

Two higher Courts have determined that the State took illegal custody of FLDS children, and the courts order their return.

I am not FLDS, I am not Mormon. Rather, I am a Bible believer of over 35 years.

As the child of holocaust survivors and a citizen of the United States, I insist that you do the righteous and lawful thing.

1. Return the 75 children, taken at gunpoint, that you are now holding at your Luling (or other) facility that you, as ICS commander, helped the State of Texas kidnap in your Gestapo-style raid.

2. Repent for participating in violence and the denial/violation of citizens constitutional rights. These denied rights include major portions of Amendments 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (attached below). The courts have cited other unlawful violations, as well. Restitution includes paying four times damages to each victim (Luke 19:8, Exodus 22:1).

3. Return the blood-money to the victims and taxpayers that you/your affiliates received for your atrocities.

4. Resign from all positions of leadership in any organization that claims the Bible as authoritative.

5. Your suspense date is 9 Jun 08. Post your public repentance and your restitution plan on your website.

The following scriptures are invoked if you fail to do your Christian duty: Matthew 10:14-15, James 3:1, John 20:23, Matthew 25:45, Matthew 5:19, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 2:19, Luke 13:25-27, Matthew 23.

Ref:

3rd District Court of Appeals, Austin Tx - numerous constitutional and Family Code Violations--conclusion: no grounds for the State of Texas to take custody of 465 FLDS children. Court orders their return.

http://extras.mnginteract...

PUBLIC EMAILS FROM WEB PAGES:

PS: If you write a letter to any below, please draft your own letter. Because, I did sign my name, so duplicates will simply look like we did them.

Kevin Dinnin–head culprit… info@bcfs.net or if that is still 'auto-blocked' use: news@bcfs.net

Partners: dloftis@shearerhills.org ; randel.everett@bgct.org ; nbennett@churchillbaptist.org ; welch@parkhillsbc.org ; charlesp@sanantoniobaptist.org; psitton@shearerhills.org ; rteaff@shearerhills.org ; suzii.paynter@bgct.org ; lcf@yahoo.com ; donwilkins@parkhillsbc.org

the MOST important thing is to get these children home - and then let the lawyers sort it out from there.

At least it will then be on a case by case basis of bias!

SEND BARBARA A MESSAGE THIS WEEKEND!<--- CLICK THIS

http://www.flds.ws/

.....I have uploaded an mp3 of Eric Clapton's wonderful 1977 instrumental called "Peaches and Diesel" from his "Slowhand" LP.

I am assuming this song is a tribute to Duane Allman due to how he died.

Eric Clapton - "Peaches and Diesel"

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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I have two kids who haven't been vaccinated.

I grow a garden.

We're going to home school.

We support Ron Paul.

So when are the tanks coming to MY "compound"?

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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The following article commentary is from the Lone Star Times in Texas.

It gives more detail into what happened with Judge Walther yesterday regarding her temper tantrum and subsequent abuse-of-power.

The article coins a new term for this type of abuse. The FLDS got "Walthered".

FLDS Gets Walthered Again

Remember the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse case, Mike Nifong? Recall that a new word was introduced into the lexicon, “Nifonged“?

Nifonged describes the railroading or harming of a person with no justifiable cause, except for one’s own gain.

There is another term that will be added shortly: Walthered. Here is my initial definition.

Walthered describes the railroading or harming of families with small children with no justifiable cause, except to cover up one’s own incompetency.

Barbara Walther, the podunk West Texas judge that has been slapped down twice for her illegal order allowing the Texas DFPS to snatch up 460 children, threw a temper tantrum and walked out of court yesterday rather than sign an agreement that was reached between CPS and lawyers for the parents and children of the FLDS.

A state district judge who had been ordered by two higher courts to send children from a polygamist sect back home refused Friday to sign an order that would have started the process of reuniting them with their parents.

The judge’s unexpected move came after four hours of legal wrangling where it appeared some of the children from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) would be going home as early as Monday.

Attorneys left the courtroom scratching their heads over Judge Barbara Walther’s abrupt end of the hearing.

What happened? First, she took the agreement that had been hammered out and added her own little thoughts to it.

The sticking points centered on restrictions Walther added to an order that had been agreed upon among attorneys for Child Protective Services, the parents and the children.

Instead, Walther added additional restrictions, including restricting the parents’ movements and giving CPS 24-hour access to the Yearning for Zion Ranch near Eldorado, where more than 400 children were taken from after an April 3 raid.

When the lawyers for the children objected, pointing out that two courts have ruled that she removed the children for no reason and therefore she should not add restrictions to an agreement already worked out, she banged her gavel and called a recess so that she could review it again.

“I will take a look at the order and see if I can sign it,” Walther said before declaring a recess.

When she returned, Walther said she would only agree to sign it if all 38 mothers involved in the lawsuit also signed it.

“If you provide me with an order signed by all of your clients, I will sign it,” Walther said before leaving the bench.

Roughly a minute later, as baffled attorneys discussed her decision, a bailiff ordered everyone to vacate the courtroom.

So she walks back into court and says, fine, have all 38 mothers on the original order sign this and I’ll sign it too. Then she banged her gavel again and walked out.

Knowing full well that is going to take days because of her own incompetence - these 38 mothers are spread to the four corners of the state of Texas. And Texas isn’t Rhode Island.

That “essentially incarcerates the children and the mothers of our children for another 48 hours,” said Laura Shockley, a Dallas attorney, moments after startled lawyers filed out of the Tom Green County Courthouse.

You’re correct, Ms. Shockley. You’ve been Walthered.

And it looks like some of the people from Eldorado, where this stupidity started, are getting tired of it too.

Many here cheered the raids, but on Friday residents were fuming. “I absolutely don’t agree with what they do,” Curtis Phillips, 33, said of the FLDS as he worked the register at the town’s feed and mercantile store. “But blowing in that ranch like cowboys and taking all those kids — that was just stupid. That’s why people like me don’t trust the government.”

Curtis Griffin, 45, owner of the local fuel depot, counts many FLDS members as customers. He blamed Sheriff David Doran, who is up for reelection, for mischaracterizing the entire sect as pedophiles.

“I said from the word go, if there’s sex with underage girls, nail their butt,” said Griffin. “But nail the right people. We’re going to wind up with a $30-million bill here in this little county because these people didn’t have their ducks in a row.”

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

.......'cause I'd like to ask her out on a date.

She seems like she'd make a WONDERFUL wife.

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

So this District Judge believes that she can overrule the Texas State Supreme Court? She will be lucky if she doesn't lose her seat on the bench for interfering with the Supreme Court ruling.

All this amounts to right now is saving face along with damage control by TX CPS and the authorities who were involved. They all realize that they were complicit in violating the civil rights of the FLDS members as well as their children. They are not only responsible for violations of civil rights but also all physical and mental injuries as a result of those violations.

FLDS appears to have them running scared.

First they will get their kids back. Then the tables will be turned against those who have violated the rights of others.

The court orders are at below link, upper left corner. There are two, top one being amended which was worse than the first. I don't know what happened to bring about the amended set.

http://www.kxan.com/globa...

The below blog has 'grandpa Bill' who is in daily contact with the ranch and doing his best to keep everyone posted. Some of the FLDS parents post there on occasion too. Bill has been one step ahead as each event unfolds, before all the media.

http://www.flds.ws/

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I bet the state didn't get a chance to start (or finish) vaccinating all of these kids with their death-serums.

Notice how the article didn't mention what the restrictions are.

I'm putting my money on the death-serum restriction.

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

Mike
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This Barbara Walthers is an out of control sadistic anti-family statist who needs to be removed from the bench. When is she up for re-election? She needs to be UNelected, and fast. She is a one-woman wrecking crew, intent on destroying 150 close-knit, loving families.

I would suggest those of a praying sort consider investigating what is sometimes called imprecatory prayer.

THERE SHOULD BE NO RESTRICTIONS **WHATSOEVER** ON THE CHILDREN GOING HOME. Lord Barbara in her infinite, omnipotent power, is violating these people's 4th and 5th amendment rights in a huge way.

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SAN ANGELO, Texas - A plan to begin reuniting parents with more than
400 children removed from a polygamist group's ranch has been thrown
into doubt because a judge and the families are clashing over
proposed restrictions.

Texas District Judge Barbara Walther has refused to sign an order
restoring custody to the parents until they agree to more
restrictions than state child-welfare officials have proposed.

Walther was directed by an appeals court to reverse her ruling last
month putting all children from the Yearning For Zion Ranch into
foster case. The Texas Supreme Court affirmed the appeals court's
decision Thursday and rejected the state's argument that all the
children were in immediate danger from what it said was a cycle of
sexual abuse of teenage girls at the ranch.

As someone else (sempiternal?) commented on another thread, this may possibly be the reason the TX Supreme Court agreed with the findings of the appeals court: in order to keep the issue in the state, and thereby under the auspices of TX CPS.

Somehow, I'm reminded of the movie "Cinerella." You know..."Yes, Cinderella; you may go to the ball. IF...you complete these things first: scrub the floor, wash the curtains, clean out the fireplace, do the mending, dusting, polishing..."

Only in this case, it's: "IF you live by all the standards we set and where and how we say you can live."