What To Do When You Don't Like Any of These Candidates ...NOTA

Posted May 31st, 2008 by BeaReady

WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU DON'T LIKE ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES

By Tom DeWeese
May 30, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

Hillary Clinton. John McCain. Barack Obama. Those are our choices for the next president of the United States. Are you happy with that selection? If not, what is your alternative? As the saying goes, “The lesser of two evils is still evil.” ...............
Then you look further down the ballot. Something new. It says “NONE OF THE ABOVE.” It’s a final choice after the candidates – after the candidates in every category, from president, to congress to city council. What does it mean?
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Be sure to read the entire article. This is first thing I've seen, since Ron Paul, that really got me excited. Awesome idea and the time is now more than ever.
http://www.newswithviews....

After reading DeWeese article, see this website, "Voters for None of the Above"
http://nota.org/ They are already on it and have great resources. Be sure to watch the video.

I hope to get this going in Ohio and will be posting on Ohio Freedom Alliance,
http://ohiofreedom.com/fo... This is where a good many from Ohio RP meetups have joined forces on variety of issues.

Please post your thoughts and questions. This looks like an excellent project!

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NOTA works for me!

On June 9th, 2008 resunltd says:

This is an excellent idea.

There are many of us who cannot stomach voting for one of the "approved" candidates. I for one would rather have the NOTA option.

It will make your constitutionalism known without giving in to the MSM phonies. If the NOTA numbers are significant, they cannot be ignored.

This should be promoted as an agenda for the Revolution March as well.

Live Free or Die in NH

I dont remember who said I can vote RP absentee

On June 9th, 2008 Jinc says:

My state is no write-in- but I will be overseas during the election. I just assumed I would be held to the same rules of my state regardless of where I vote from- is there anything to this? Do I have a write-in option on an absentee ballot?

Hello Jinc. I was in the USMC a few years ago...

On June 9th, 2008 ron_paul-bot_12413 says:

...and voted absentee every year. The form that I used, which should be universal unless changes have been made, did have a write-in option. Good luck!

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."

-George Washington

I had a similar thread going. I'm on board...

On June 8th, 2008 ron_paul-bot_12413 says:

...let us expose the BS that is the U.S. election system. NOTA! To me it is the only sound, strategic alternative that we have. It's easier to sell to a wider range of people, including those that do not normally vote. We need to get this discussion moving forward in Meetups etc. I will bring it up with my Meetup. Get out the vote for NOTA. Can we come to a consensus on the best strategy sometime soon DP? A penny for your thoughts.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."

-George Washington

read it while it's HOT!

On June 8th, 2008 BeaReady says:

read it while it's HOT!

We're picking up steam

On June 8th, 2008 wninja says:

We're picking up steam believe it or not. lol

Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever!

buy food.

On June 5th, 2008 iehuvihs says:

Get the money out of the system.

bump

On June 5th, 2008 wninja says:

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever! While helping me get to St.Paul!

I sympathize with what

On June 4th, 2008 marlow says:

I sympathize with what Thomas DiLorenzo says over at LewRockwell's blog - "Now that our only choices are red state fascism (McCain) vs. blue state socialism (Obama), secession is the only escape route."

marlow

There is one other better

On June 9th, 2008 Samuel Howell Jr. says:

There is one other better choice. Re-seat the original jurisdiction government.

http://teamlaw.org/Govern...

If the patriot movement was

On June 8th, 2008 Kevin Tuma says:

If the patriot movement was going to rise up and involve itself in insurrection, it would done so after Waco. It certainly would have done so after the Military Commissions Act and reinstitution of the Patriot Act.

So while I sympathize with DiLorenzo's idea, I realize it's just an idea.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

The patriot movement is still gaining ground...

On June 9th, 2008 ron_paul-bot_12413 says:

...and we need to keep growing. The Waco massacre was well handled by the media masters as many people are unaware of the facts. I'm not sure what kind of insurrection you mean, but violence is what the elite want us to engage in. The elite would love for us to engage in violence. It would be the vehicle that they would use to escalate their plans and finish their "great work". Violence is not an option...except in defense that is. NOTA!

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."

-George Washington

Considering voter consent is

On June 4th, 2008 wninja says:

Considering voter consent is not law there is no telling. However, any legislation passed on this matter should define the term of the president as the end of a presidents term is the end of a presidents term. If voters withhold consent and no one is elected. Then I would think executive power falls back to Congress with the speaker of the House.

If you toy with this idea abit you shouldn't fear it. It is the only vote that can split the Dems. If the Dem vote splits and McCain support languishes. Then NOTA can not only win, but come in a close second behind Ventura/Paul or other Paul ticket derivative.

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

If that were an option

On June 4th, 2008 chonk123 says:

in a presidential election. Lets just say this one. Would Bush remain president until another was elected? That woud not be good!!!!!

im still confused as to why a write in wont be accepted.

On June 4th, 2008 Jinc says:

whose the poor loser? The repubs are like used car salesmen. They push the 1981 Pinto wagon (McCain) and we say "hmm...thanks but no thanks- BUT I am not going to leave your lot (the repub party) " can I have a look at that one over there?" (Ron Paul) and they say "that ones not for sale". we say"Sure it is- its pricey- but money is no object" and they say "youre p*ssing me off- go accross the street- we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". Whose the poor loser???

Me too

On June 4th, 2008 chonk123 says:

Jinc. And who would be president until someone was elected?

time to try again

On June 4th, 2008 BeaReady says:

time to try again

You get more bites than I

On June 4th, 2008 wninja says:

You get more bites than I do! lol

I see someone else thought

On June 2nd, 2008 BeaReady says:

I see someone else thought this topic a good one and started new thread. Join the party!

Excuse me? I was here first!

On June 2nd, 2008 wninja says:

Excuse me? I was here first! LOL =P

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

...and how it can be used.

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

NOTA has always been a choice

On June 9th, 2008 IMissLiberty says:

In the LP, NOTA is always a choice in the party's internal elections.

Interestingly, though NOTA often gets a few votes, I can't recall ever seeing NOTA win. On the other hand, our candidates are all Libertarians. ;)

IMissLiberty

At the local and in party

On June 9th, 2008 wninja says:

At the local and in party level I can see why. But it would work slightly different in a gubbernational or presidential contest. I commend the LP for their stance on NOTA, voter consent, and nation ballot access. But it would stand to reason. It is as much their cause as any other 3rd party.

Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008
Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocrac...

Okay well according to time

On June 2nd, 2008 wninja says:

Okay well according to time stamp you were here first. But where was this thread?

your guess good as mine.

On June 3rd, 2008 BeaReady says:

your guess good as mine. Having trouble keeping it bumped. Imagine that!

Yeah! lol not a real popular

On June 3rd, 2008 wninja says:

Yeah! lol not a real popular view right now. I think it'll catch on though once people start doing the math. =D Cheers!

Very Interesting...

On June 1st, 2008 artistsforRP says:

If I can't vote for RP
I was planning to continue to vote for the freedom message
which is also found in the Constitution Party.
My question is - are 3rd Partys not on ballots in all states?
If not, that means - it may not have as great effect on the establishment.
I would really like to be part of a voting process that could do some
damage to the establishment - So, if we are able to write in NOTA
in all 50 states etc... would this have a greater effect?
I want to do more reasearch on None of the Above - have checked out
their main site...
(anyone know if they have an Official Mysapce page?)
Would love to read some replies to this -

The greatest effect NOTA can

On June 2nd, 2008 wninja says:

The greatest effect NOTA can have is if it splits the Dems vote and pulls votes from the pool of those that don't like any of the options. So long as our vote is unified and other camps are not so much.

The issue runs deeper though. NOTA has to do with voter consent laws. NOTA is something that should already be on the ballot. The difference between NOTA and not voting is that NOTA says, "I reject the options set before me and I care enough to say so." NOT voting says, "I don't care do whatever you want."

3rd parties...

On June 2nd, 2008 KatieinVT says:

have to fulfill the requirements for ballot access in each individual state. It varies depending on the state. It is intended to make in difficult for a 3rd party candidate to do well nationally.

good day to check this out!

On June 1st, 2008 BeaReady says:

good day to check this out!

I know there has to be some

On May 31st, 2008 BeaReady says:

I know there has to be some true patriots out there who have not found their niche in the Revolution. Please take a look at this topic and if you can tell me it does nothing to spur you on, then I'll accept that the DP is filled with nothing but boggers who run their mouths and have no intention of making a real difference. Any of true belief in 'The Message' have moved on long ago. The difference MUST be from bottom up....no excuses.