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Beyond plan B, NOTA a plan D

When Jessie Ventura said he wanted to be able to vote None of the Above. He threw it out there rather nonchalantly and while we were all hoping for an endorsement. That's not what happened. Some are/were mad about that. But since then I've been doing a little digging and even a little thinking.

Why did he say that? Well at first I thought to myself okay, if RP is being marginalized for his views then how is Jessie not going to be marginalized if he endorses RP? He can't, the MSM would exploit it. So distance is good for the time being. If Jessie is to make any headway in the media and appeal to those viewers he will need to do so on his own.

Also no matter what we do to educate the masses. The ones we may never be able to reach are the brainwashed socialist convinced that the government is the answer to all their ails. So my question is how do we cap Democrat support? How do we split their vote? Dems condemn Nader for this is 2000 but really he is small potatoes. Neither Democratic front runner is going to run 3rd party so their is almost no way to split the Dems vote.

Save one. NOTA - None of the Above. Pretty much no matter how un/misinformed a sheeple is NOTA is self-explanatory and easy to understand. Now I know this will only effect the popular vote but that is just it. They can't have a final popular vote count be SO close to the electoral college vote that the whole mess get swept under the rug as it has been in more recent presidential races.

Of course this is not what WE the revolution will do, at least I don't think so nor do I have any plans thereof. I see a NOTA shadow campaign as a way to divide the Dems and cap the front runners potentially growing support.

Below is an excerpt from the post that got me thinking about this and my initial response.

Either 3rd Party or NOTA
On May 31st, 2008 artistsforRP says:

this "None Of The Above" is intriguing!
I plan to do a lot of research - I would like to vote in whichever way
could send the largest message to the establishment.
If I voted 3rd Party it would deffinately be Constitution Party.
This makes most sense to me for voting for the message.
However, I understand 3rd Party candidates are not on all states ballots.
(seems hopelessly fixed) If everyone or the vast majority in all states
wrote in NOTA - might have a greater impact?
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Intrigued
On June 1st, 2008 wninja says:

While it is not what i will do in November. (I will vote whichever way RP votes) NOTA is a very direct and simple message that I think many un/misinformed angry Americans can identify with. It could be a way to sway voters away from the mainstream candidates.

Where would this fall inline behind RP POTUS? If Plan B is to get RP in as 3rd party or as a VP. Plan C vote for whomever RP endorses. NOTA might be Plan D. The more I dwell on this the more I don't think JV fired this out there for no reason and I gotta say that if my intuition is correct. This is quite brilliant.

For the life of me For some reason there are people I know that really do support RP but just don't know it. Nor do they believe it when told. It's a strange dichotomy that never ceases to vex me. Some think they are informed but it all MSM brainwashing. Others are just plain angry and don't know how to channel their anger properly. While a few are still inclined to lean left if they vote at all.

I suppose the objective would be to cap our oppositions potential final vote counts. NOTA can't possibly split our vote as we are unified in our resolve. All votes siphoned off by NOTA would be from the mainstream candidates.

IF this is true then NOTA2008.com needs to go live and soon.
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Googled NOTA and http://nota.org/ came back.

Googled NOTA2008.com and it came back empty

One question is can we push NOTA and not hurt ourselves? I'm really not sure, but I believe we can.

What the powers that be need to see from us is that we will not support the front runners.

Our Plan A, is get RP the republican nomination.
Plan B, get RP in the WH either 3rd party or as VP.
Plan C, support whomever RP supports
Plan D, support NOTA because we'll be damned if we follow the status quo.

In time the wave function of Plan A will collapse into Plan B and if that doesn't go well, will collapse into plan C. Which for us is where it will stop. The Dems front runners are only in superposition to one another and when that wave function collapses is when NOTA needs to near tolerances for critical mass.

Like I said I can't see doing Plan D myself. However, I am going to encourage people that I can't seem to wake up to do this instead of support a front runner. This is in all likelihood will remain my posture until the national convention.

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The under lying question is

The under lying question is do the supporters of other campaigns really support thier candidate or are they protesting the other candidates? If this is mostly true then NOTA stands a good chance at pulling support from the looser of the Dem convention. Many conservative republicans are not happy with McCanus, can't see themselves supporting Paul, and will not vote Democrat. Those are the two groups that should be targeted by NOTA.

Neither group is sure to want their vote "not wasted". So convincing them to protest vote will be difficult. So NOTA would have to be huge and it doesn't get much time to become huge. Come November the choices should be something like McCanus vs Bama vs. PlanB or PlanC vs NOTA vs BoBaWAR. The goal is to get the post-September disgruntled voters to come our banner whatever banner we're flying at the time or write-in NOTA.

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The We The People Foundation

The We The People Foundation requests assistance from The Revolution

Here is another step of the R3VOLUTION that might be worth supporting.

If nothing else, it should be an interesting Constitution/History lesson for some.

NOTE: I am NOT trying to divide the movement. This is just something else to consider doing with any spare time you may have. I am in no way affiliated with this group.

Videos:

Ron Paul Revolution - PART 1 - The Profound Plan For Freedom.flv
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Ron Paul Revolution - PART 2 - The Profound Plan For Freedom.flv
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Images:

http://www.givemeliberty....

http://www.wikiprotest.co...

http://www.ronpaulforums....

There is abolutely nothing

There is abolutely nothing wrong with pushing other liberty programs. We the People, Downsizedc, JBS, FFI, and a few others i cannot think of are all worth causes and vehicles to effect change.

However, NOTA is a little different because NOTA it has to flourish without the revolution. We cannot be the defining factor to NOTA. Like Jessie Ventura who must stand on his own so to must NOTA.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever! While helping me get to St.Paul!

Ya, I am helping with this

Ya, I am helping with this WTP initiative as I think it is super important. As for NOTA, the only way it would work is if the NOTA votes were the majority then none of the candidates would win. That is the only way it would work right. Unfortunately, I doubt it would be possible to EVER get that initiated..

That would be true if the

That would be true if the republican vote were not already going to be split. NOTA only needs to split the Dems vote. If Plan B is in place at the time this reaches critical mass Then our plan B actually has a chance. If there is no plan B or plan C then you absolutely right. Timing is crucial and of the essence.

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