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I'm a little new here... who's Steve Parent? What's all the hubbub?

Reading back through some posts he seems to be very helpful and knowledgeable with regard to the election process, delegates, etc.

However, he seems to speak with abolute hatred to some of the people on this site. Anyone who disagrees with him is a 'troll', or a 'neo-con plant'. Anyone who asks him anything about his background, doctorate, meetup group, etc. is similarly attacked.

For a while, I thought he was attached to this site in some capacity but I see now that he has started Revolution Broadcasting and isn't associated with this site in any way, other than trying to get people to listen to his radio station.

So, what's the deal? Does he help or hinder the revolution? Is he simply trying to profit off the RP groundswell or does he have legitimate knowledge and background?

I know I'll probably get attacked for this post, but as it turns out, I don't really care. Just asking a question.

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Steve Parent is a troll who formed a very devoted cult

An internet phantom with a serious following. too bad theyre not serious enough to meet his financial demands. so he has to come to the DP and other RP Forums on the internet to pimp and troll for money.

To be fair Steve did help some people and do some good things to his credit. Even the devil did some good things to his credit also. Thnks to them both for the good things they did

God Save us all

yours;
Dr. Not Over Yet
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul

Some people seem to think

Some people seem to think that Steve Parent has questionable motives. I for one see both sides and think that he is a help to the revolution and than him for what he has done to further the cause.

This is crazy, who cares about who the hell did what here

Steve Parent really pushed the process of getting people to become delegates, if he profits from his radio station, and helps the revolution along that is fine with me. Do you all want to waste your time debating Steve Parent's character? It seems that if you do, the neocons win, period. Devote your time building your own character, and further the Revolution. We don't have time for this shit.

Think

of how much more would've been accomplished without SGP....

"The internet ghost has successfully divided the patriots at dailypaul"
-me 2008

Completely with you.

I too think that we a wasting our precious time on this issue. Do not get yourselves worked up over this problem, it is that of a few rabblerousers that do not do anything positive for our movement. I also agree, we do not have time for this. Thanks for reading.

Think for yourself. Question authority.

We are not in this for

We are not in this for profit and every host as well as myslef does not make 1 dime.

The spin about this issue is a diversion and a full rteport for our donors will be sent out in the next week or so of the pay pal account.

We have nothing to hids with the pay pal account.

Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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yeah right

yeah right

To be honest

I did not like the way he treated Trevor one bit but he was knowledgeable on the delegate issue. Then heard him on the radio when there was another guest on with a the fellow in Japan. He really came off full of himself. You
know everyone has something to offer I'm willing to let him do his thing I don't have to listen. Peace

Consider Steve as if he was one of your friends---

He is the sort of friend that sometimes really grates on your nerves as he seems condescending at times. In fact, I was having trouble tonight listening to his scolding on Revolution Broadcasting! But, for the most part, he is a valuable friend. He is knowledgeable and goes the extra mile to educate on the delegate process with good results, and I have no reason to doubt that he is a committed Ron Paul supporter.

Yeah, well I don't let my

Yeah, well I don't let my own mother treat me that way let alone my friends.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever! While helping me get to St.Paul!

The only thing I think

Steve has a problem with is his incapacity to view those less knowledgeable in the political process as being equal. His only fault is reflection. Maybe he too was once put down for his lack of knowledge, and so studied hard and learned the ropes. There is a big difference between being 'smart' and being 'intellegent'. One that is 'smart' has focused his energy on gaining knowledge, the purpose of this 'knowledge' is used as a defence mechanism. It is the movement of insecurity trying to become secure, it is the fear of being made 'small' through intellectual argument, and the feeling of needing to be able to defend oneself in the event that this may happen in the future. There is quite a difference with intellegence. Intellegence begins with the perception that there is total equality between all living things. There too is the perception that there is no 'absolute' knowledge, for knowledge is always building upon itself. Intellegent is the brain that is always questioning, inquiring into its current experience. It is easily seen in children. To be less educated, less knowledgeable about the things created by man is no sign, no measurement, of unintellegence. The intellegent person is he who experiences compassion, which is the ability to understand your fellow man by seeing that he is the reflection of you. That does not mean that you are sad because he is sad, or you are happy because he is happy, it means you are understanding/open to his sadness/happiness for it is not alien to you. For example the 'smart' person says 'I understand your sadness, I've felt like that before and this is what you should do to fix it'. The 'intellegent' person says, 'I understand you are sad, I am here for you.'

Steve is smart, and so are many, many millions of other people in this world. It is they who butt heads with each other through 'my knowledge' as opposed to 'your knowledge'. It is the intellegent/compassionate person that is lacking in this world. It is they who approach problems as puzzles, as something only resolveable through questioning, inquiring into the current experience.

Geez, that was alot longer than I thought it would be. I don't even think I answered your question. Sorry, too much time spent to erase now. :)

[Enonesoch], ya said a bunch of crap,

And I liked it ALL !!! :-P Thank you for your view.... "Onward" >>>>

What you believe too be true, is true too you..

I ignore him. At first he was helpful but honesty

I am just not interrested in buying what he is selling. Is it the salesman or the service? I can't tell you, I'm not sure.

"Welcome to DP" if I hadn't said hello yet :)

Please do your own research

Use the search function on DP to read the threads started by "SGP".

If you're so inclined, *register* to login at RonPaulForums.com to use its search capability for threads started by "drsteveparent".

Another reason you need to login there is that many, many threads related to "Dr. Steve Parent" have been moved by the moderators to "The Vent" or to "Hot Topics" forums (near bottom of forums list) that are only listed/viewable for logged in people.

Also, note how many of the "Dr. Steve Parent" threads have the "locked" icon (padlock on the icon in the left column lists of threads)

The "New Posts" tab works across all forums, again while logged in (auto logout seems to be 8-10 minutes with no activity).

Skim the flame posts (usually very short) - look at the longer posts for evidence published to support the many different concerns expressed.

Read with an open mind and see what conclusions you draw.

Three areas (it's more than just the delegate instruction process):
1. Validity of delegate information that was taught
2. RP national delegate plans for the national convention in September
3. New role of RevolutionBroadcasting and why that business should get preferential treatment on RP forums, when it is *not* dedicated to Ron Paul.

Good luck!

Steve Parent

has been nothing but helpful to me. He has tried to help us here in Nevada; & before the convention, he answered some questions for me when I had nowhere to turn (like how come I was being told it was going to cost $5,000 to be a delegate to the national convention). Even though he has very strong ideas about what's to be done, he's never criticized. I've always winced when people attacked him on here as I felt his motives were always true. I just wish Ron Paul's national office had used his expertise, I think he would have been a tremendous asset.

Cynthia Kennedy

I like his new radio

I like his new radio station.

What I heard on there tonight, however, was him screaming in frustration at people who refuse to buy into his fantasy that we're going to have a revolt at the con and take away McCain's delegates.

Ron Paul is a modest man who would not encourage us to take away McCain's delegates--the "delegate takeover" strategy is FALSE, it will not happen, and Dr. Paul is not encouraging it. There's nothing wrong with seeing the process through to the end and scoring as well as possible, but the battle for the GOP nomination in 2008 is LOST, and Dr. Paul says this very clearly if you listen to any of his many statements to that effect.

Dr. Parent's fantasies of a 'win' are simply going to disappoint people in our movement later, as Alex Jones politely pointed out yesterday, and my advice to Doctor Parent if he is going to persist in this nonsense is to SHUT UP. Do continue with R.R.O.O. and pursuit of delegates, but stop toying with peoples' emotions.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

When did i ever say anything

When did i ever say anything about taking away Mccains delegates?

It is the lack of understanding of the delegate process that has allowed a select few to take control.

I wish you would take the time to learn about the delegated process.

Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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OK. Let me ask you more

OK. Let me ask you more clearly--do you think Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination this year, Yes or No?

I can't debate you on this, because I have no idea what you were babbling about on the radio tonight.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

I believe the chance is slim

I believe the chance is slim but I believe we can and I will not change my opinion until I was shown otherwise.

Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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Alright, then how are you

Alright, then how are you going to do that without taking away McCain's delegates?

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

By changing the party rule

By changing the party rule maybe?

It is the lack of understanding of the delegated process of how one becomes the nominee.

Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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...and how are you going

...and how are you going change the rule? ...or have a quorum to even do business without a filibuster?

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever! While helping me get to St.Paul!

He's very passionate and

He's very passionate and smart..a little bit arrogant at times..but who is perfect. He is a good coach..gets me off my ass.

i agree...

we all have our role.
Let's take him for what he is.

I like your post.

Spread the word.

I second what others have

I second what others have said. Steve Parent has been a valuable asset to this movement. You can hear him on Revolution Broadcasting and find out why for yourself.

His early admissions he was

His early admissions he was a pretty condescending prick. Accused us of not knowing what we were doing and trying to take total credit for education in the delegate process. This prior to him being involved in any meet-up and had to be slapped into getting with this part of the community. The meet-up had/ have been going longer than SGP and virtually all of my delegate education came from my meet-up NOT SGP. So if he really wanted to do some good he should not have burned those bridges and get with the meet-ups.

HE POST'S TO HIS OWN THREADS BURYING ALL OTHER POSTS WITH HIS CAP WHORING AND DOES PARTICIPATE IN ANY THREADS BUT HIS OWN.

It only takes a short time listening to him before he hates on the truthers. So truth isn't really something he's interested in. He has openly attacked other people like Trevor Lyman and Alex Jones both have dome far more for the movement that SGP could even dream of.

Did I mention he's not a delegate. But yet he is THE self proclaimed expert "leading" us in the delegate wars. Ask him why. I think it's something about being a democrat right up till the revolution started making headway.

I think what it is, is that he has used typical trolling techniques on his own people which is a little hypocritical if you believe that principle is 100%. I've really tried to stay out of it. He may be on our side but does that give him cart blanche to be a self important condescending ass? I'm not really an expert on SGP though nor do I care to be.

But it does suck when you have thread up that you want feedback on and SGP and SGP related thread such as this one clogs the boards with controversy.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
http://www.bmvgroupinc.co... Never tie your shoes again. Ever! While helping me get to St.Paul!

Welcome to DP!

There is no other site quite like this one and it can be tough at times! You will find so much information, talent and wonderful personalities here that it can boggle your mind at times. It has been an invaluable source of information and positive energy for me. However, be aware that we do have some disinfo people here..other campaigns ..other agendas ..personal attacks for whatever reason and you have to use your best judgement.

Personally, I commend everyone that is a positive force here..we do not all agree on everything but all are given a chance to be heard.

When I see constant negative posts from the same ones over and over then I question if they are trying to divide or perhaps have a personal problem with someone. In Steves case he has put up with alot more than I could if I was only trying to help and I commend him for that. Is he trying to make money off of DP ? LOL! I do not think that is the case at all because if I were him and that was my agenda I would have been outta here with the frustration he has endured! Has he lost it sometimes? Yes..but I would have also considering the ridiculous posts to discredit. Many delegates will attest that he has been helpful in educating and promoting them to learn. Some of the naysayers are from failed start up radio shows that didnt quite make it and some of the hosts from those went over to RevolutionBroadcasting..so there is bad blood there ...and some are McCain supporters that do not want to see us educated on the delegate process!

Ok, I said it...thats my take on it!

PS Also, Steve plays a damn mean guitar and has some incredible original music ...not many have heard that ...but I heard a few clips on the radio show and he is really really good! Music is the universal language and an evil person could never have played like that! ;- )

I have a thought I keep close to my heart every day ..
"Ron Paul will win in the most spectacular way!!!"

as flavor flav would

as flavor flav would say,,,"it's all very dramatical"...also welcome to DP

You need to listen at 7pm

You need to listen at 7pm eastern then and this will help you better understand me.

Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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UMMM

Are you seriously entertaining the notion that you are anywhere close to being as intelligent as Albert Einstein? Wow you are pretty full of yourself. Pricks with delusions of grandeur also encounter opposition.

If you saw posts that showed hatred toward other members...

Then I can guarantee you that those other members, for whatever reason, drew first blood.

Steve Parent has been invaluable to Ron Paul's campaign as far as the delegate process is concerned.

We wouldn't even have any news about Nevada, Idaho, or Washington if Steve Parent didn't relentlessly promote the delegate process and encourage people to become delegates.

Thank You Steve Parent.

Evil Steve

Dr Parent has committed the egregious sin of working his butt off to educate the Forces of Paulness in the arcane ways of the Republican delegate process without first asking permission of his hysterical detractors.

No wonder he's so reviled. He has accomplished enormous progress for us without apology or shame.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Professor Bernardo de la Paz
Impolite and impatient pedantic putz.

here here

very well said, as are many of your posts ......

If you liked what happened in Idaho, tip your hat to SGP

He was not front lines, but definately a positive force in our effort here.

1st... welcome to the DP

2nd... be fair about Steve Parent. Give him a chance. He has done a lot for our movement. He has helped many people (including some of the people who now "complain") learn about the delegate process. So many people would not have learned if it were not from him. Yes, he does get upset with some people... that is because many people have turned on him and begun a full out attack. Ignore them, listen to his message (weed through the complaints about trolls, etc) and come to your own conclusions.

Christi
Proud Ron Paul Supporter