PLEASE HELP! someone in Colorado Respond to this letter from a local Republican

That "unity" has nothing to do with a democratic process.

'Nuff said.

Here is how I would answer each point.

What is it you are trying to accomplish with your efforts?

Restoring our Constitutional Republic by breaking the grip that private banks and corporations have over the people.

Who are you willing to associate with in order to reach your goals?

Anyone that has these same goals.

So what did the efforts of the Ron Paul disciples at the assembly accomplish?

Only the future will tell, admittedly, most Ron Paul supporters are products of a government education system and are therefore not properly taught about Theology, American and World History, Philosophy, Politics, critical thinking skills or public speaking. Although I consider Ron Paul supporters to be better informed on the issues, most of them have not been able to harness their enthusiasm for Ron Paul and distaste for the establishment in a way that is productive to the future of the movement. Every political movement has it’s bad examples and it is a logical fallacy to point out these bad examples and use them as an excuse to not admit the truthfulness and power of the political philosophy that the movement as a whole represents, and that is a movement back to this nations founding principles.

As you know, Ron Paul stands zero chance of becoming President. When he ran
in 1988 as a Libertarian he got around 0.5% of the popular vote. No sane
person believes he can now do over 100 times as well as in 1988.
Therefore, if Ron Paul were to somehow become the Republican candidate for
President, that would only ensure that the Democrat would become president,
which would be a disaster for our country. Is this what you would like to
see happen?

I don’t mean to insult your intelligence but I can see that you have not studied your American history very closely. What is happening in conservatism today is identical to the conservatism of 150 years ago and if conservatism has not changed in 150 years why should we think that the future of conservatism will be any different?

Here is what R.L. Dabney said about conservatism in the mid 1800’s:

"This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation.

What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.

American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted?

Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom.

It always — when about to enter a protest — very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its ‘bark is worse than its bite,’ and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance. The only practical purpose which it now serves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it ‘in wind,’ and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy from having nothing to whip." [END OF QUOTE]

If you know the innovations that the Republicans have caved into in the last several decades, you will notice that R.L Dabney was spot on in his comments about most “conservatives”. The most recent innovation that is now being accepted by most “conservatives” is nationalized health care.

So what the efforts of the Ron Paul disciples at the assembly accomplished was letting the leadership of the “conservative” party know that we are tired of their empty promises and if they were only willing to walk the walk and not just talk the talk we could win the presidency. They made a clear statement that they are willing to donate their precious time and hard earned money for a chance at having a true conservative Republican that is not just doing a “respectable amount of growling” against the liberals but has the record and fortitude to prove that he practices what he preaches.

However, there is virtually no chance that Ron Paul will become the
Republican candidate, even if John McCain should happen to die before the
Republican National Convention. Ron Paul disciples have annoyed too many
Republicans for him to ever be given that chance. How can this help people
want to get back to the Constitution?

I think that it shows that many of these people are convinced that our Constitution is on the verge of total collapse and this may be the last opportunity to preserve the rights of the next generation.

I can see the harm the Ron Paul disciples are doing. What positive result
do you hope to accomplish?

Maybe it will wake some people up and realize that our Republic is in shambles and make them research these issues themselves and discover that we are right in our warnings.

Have the actions of the Ron Paul disciples helped or hurt reaching those goals?

Probably a little bit of both, we do need to work on educating them better and coach them on their communication skills but it is better to have a large group of people that are willing to learn then a bunch of lemmings that are willing to run off a cliff with their leaders. Blind patriotism is what caused Germany to self-destruct we do not want that to happen here.

Political parties exist to get people elected.

While this is true for the most part, that doesn’t mean that getting elected is the ultimate goal if you have to sell out the people to do it you. Historically speaking blind patriotism has a habit of destroying nations.

Ron Paul can't get elected on a national level.

This is exactly the propaganda that the media wants you to believe, as long as the American public keep buying into this propaganda, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he doesn’t get elected we will only slide further and further into the fascism that has been destroying the remaining freedoms that we have in this country.

He has hung onto his Congressional seat in large part because he has gotten
hundreds of millions of dollars of earmarks for his district, and because he
and his partner have delivered most of the babies in the district.-

In an interview, Ron Paul has given a sufficient reason for putting earmarks into bills that he votes no on. His position is that it is their money in the first place, and voting no on the bill demonstrates that in principle these monies should not have been stolen from the people to begin with. So, you tell me, what would you do in this situation where the government has stolen money that it shouldn’t have and you want to make the best choice in this bad situation?

There were others there holding signs and expressing themselves, were there not? So who decided to remove this single individual? Was there a vote to do so? Of course not. Whoever instructed security to remove her was acting in his own interest, not necessarily in the interest of the party. The person holding the anti-war sign had just as much right to do that as the person holding a McCain sign or a "support the troops" sign. Yes it was a private event for the Colorado GOP, but it wasn't the GOP who decided to remove her. Whoever told security to remove her was acting completely on his own without the permission of those in attendance. Simple as that.

I was there. It sucked. As I looked at all the fat, stupid people mocking the RP supporters, I thought to myself, "how can a rational person work with people like this?" They have no value, except as food for undiscriminating carnivores. These people's lives are dominated by a combination of denial and fear. They are not worth the effort. They don't want RP or us in their "party". I think my days as a Republican are over. You think you're going to get this moron to see the light? Fuck him and all of those cocksuckers in the Colorado GOP, especially Dick "I talk like I have a dick in my mouth" Wadhams. Fuck them all, with extreme prejudice.

Sorry it is not Bonnie, yes I changed it..that is a Ron Paul supporters quote..and she was the supporter.

*smiles the evil bigmikedude smile*

Take a PMS pill. Stop watching FOX NEWS. Bill O'Reilly and Shaun Hannity are assholes. They are not the television prophets that are going to deliver you from the evil world around you if you do what they say. Worse yet, they are paid very well, as are all the other media talking heads, specifically to be assholes. It's too bad you haven't figured that out yet. I would love to personally watch your children or relatives, experience the misery they and their families will be living, in daily life through the next few presidencies that come about, from those like you, to naive, to see our future. You only see the television, and are stupid enough to buy into it.

No point in arguing it with someone that thinks like you. You are stuck in the box and a victim of brainwashing by daily news and routine rhetoric. Just another sheep in the herd. Run with your beliefs, Godspeed and Baaaaaaa. I can only hope that someday, years from now I have the opportunity to meet you in person. Just to rub your nose in it and say " We tried to tell you."

Who knows, maybe I will have that opportunity. After all, I am looking for a home in Colorado.

PS. Don't get your head stuck in the fence.

Lets try not to be too inflammatory, I like this person he is in my county.

This is chalk full of missinformation and just to make a few things clear.
(1) He is right, it is a Private Org. and as a contributing member you have the Right in their own Bylaws to speakout in meetings.
(2) She was invited through her local GOP to attend this meeting as a "SEATED DELEGATE" that gives her even more right to present her views.
(3) As for his comment on Ron Pauls "Electability" watch the polls in Nov. as the McMental Republicans get slaughtered. McMindless has only the NRC in his corner and the very small (Tell me how to vote) base that is left in the Republican Party.
(4) Whereas Dr.Paul has a Larger base of Educated True Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents (did I miss any) and just straight out "WORLDWIDE" support that McDone will never have.
(5) Lets face it McBush-mini-me has no "ELECTABILITY" and we will be seeing a Dem. (Socialist) in the White House. Everything our Forefathers fought for is down the drain unless we carry on the "RELOVELUTION".

So, if you could just pass this on to the Republican Drone that has no clue to the Bylaws of his own Party. Nor does he have any knowjedge of the Constitution and what it means to the survival of America.

To the Drone:

Be happy in your ignorance, for it is not you that will have to live with the devistation that you leave behind. It will be your "Beloved" children and grandchildren.

PS: about the Earmarks; Dr. Paul has explained this over and over. The way it works is, he works for his Constituents. They ask him for money (that never should have left the State in the first place) for some off the wall project. He submits this (as it is his job) to the Earmark Committees. Then when it comes up for the Vote, he says "NO". Any more questions?
Check his Voting Record!

What about the earmarks again? What happened?

Ron Paul supporters made up a solid 25% of the delegates on the floor of the Colorado State Convention. They were louder and had 100 times the passion of the submissive McCain people. McCain had to rely on Paid staffers to illegally hand out Unity Slate flyers.

The establishment was scared -- and for very good reason. You could see the fear in the McCain staffers and the old establishment. They didn't know quite what to do.

Ron Paul won that convention - because every single established repub in Colorado had to ask themselves some serious questions.

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Ron isn't unimportant, especially to McCain supporters.

They keep saying he has almost no support. If that were anywhere near the truth, then why not let Ron's suporters be heard? Why not let Ron's supporters vote unimpeded?

The answer is simple, Ron Paul supporters hold the key to the next presidential election and they know it.