Open Thread: Forward Strategy for the r3VOLution

But, We should not talk about any 3rd party candidates(unless that candidate is Ron Paul) until after the RNC in St. Paul.

And I agree with you, we should try and vote as a block.

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CRASH THE PARTY

is a big dumb fuck who's light bulb has finally ignited. Yeh, great deal. He is still lost and dumb founded about what has happened to his country. We don't need a newbie to run this country. Ron Paul has known these truths for decades.

I wrote to each address, and basically asked Jesse to step up the plate, put his money where his mouth is and join the Revolution.

I applauded Ron for all that he has given us and then sheepishly asked him to give more (3rd party run), and explained how I felt the time is right and will never come again (my 2 cents worth).

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is FUN!

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Maybe this should be our immediate strategy- to make the Ron Paul video of all Ron Paul videos--- Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura. Even if the match would not come about, just think of the attention it could get for Ron Paul and his ideas. I'm guessing there are some geniuses out there who could make this happen.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

We need to crank out more. Only one suggestion. Try a new music bed and a little text for the segues... but keep'em coming !!!

Now We're Talk'n.

... who accept the pablum.

He's just the man to do it.

Ron Paul awakened the awakening.

Many have not answered their wake up call.

Its time to kick their lazy asses out of bed.

Did you hear what Jesse said in that video? He would run for president or I'm sure VP as well, if there was some magical way to get him on the ballot. Let's research every option and find out how to get this done!

Paul/Ventura 2008

I don't disagree with this although I think the Revolution is still strong. The problem with being a nice guy who is non-aggressive, and doesn't try to herd people, is that people meander in false directions. And they will follow false leaders whenever they come along.

Not that I'd want Dr. Paul any other way.

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so my advice to you is, be very very careful on what you think you know.

One of the real reasons science is so slow and also so good, is its a process of vetting out the truth. And to vet out the truth one must practice science by being fully aware of all the ways we humans can and do deceive ourselves. Facts from nature are simply there, not trying to deceive us, with no intention to deceive us, yet we Humans have an amazing ability for self-deception....ie fooling our own selves. So by practicing good science, we test, we conduce "double blind tests" we repeat tests and we do many other tests that looks at nature from a hundred different angles. To "know the truth" about just a simple piece of nature, say a chemical bond and how it bonds, takes a good long time.

But for we Humans to buy in and believe a story, that takes but a few minutes. Gossip is believed more times than doubted. Particularly insightful is this book, THE MIND OF THE MARKET and I recommend it highly. Here it is at Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Min...

We humans are particularly inclined to believe as true stories about other Humans. Trust me, there are no Spock's in the Human race that would rationally and objectively tell me about the story of your life, and you would not want your wife to do it either (wink)! So since this is true we must be very, very careful and take a very long time to accept story lines about other people. Particularly when they aim to be causal and explanation of major events, especially events that are complicated and took many human beings to produce. I am sure someone is busy writing about what it looked on the "inside of the Revolution". Perhaps it will be a good book. But will it be reality? Will it be what really happened?. Furthermore, the farther we go back in time, from events last week, to events last year, to events 100 years ago, to events over 2,000, we need to see that the story is a narrative, further and further away from being factually correct. And when a story throws in "motivations", as in the Reason Ron Paul did not advertise better or pay more for TV commercials in New Hampshire, well then we are getting really speculative.

Even facts which should be easy one way or the other get hotly debated. Was the 16th Amendment Ratified correctly or not? So far, its hard for me to tell, and I am inclined to believe that if indeed it was widely proved to be the case, then the American people through Congress would quickly rise up and tax themselves, this time "legally". Since I hold that point of view, the issue, factually true or not, matters little to me.

I do agree with John Birchers that through the years those interested in foreign policy, 99% of those people bought into the ideology of the day, which was interventionism and one world government, such is the power of ideology. Since people then and now buy into those ideas, they naturally work to gain power and influence and bring those ideas about, either openly or behind closed doors. That is expected.

But I part ways with the John Birch society's thinking that the whole thing shows a Master Conspiracy at work. I think they link historical facts selectively, to fit their ongoing narrative (remember how dangerous a gossipy narrative can be) and looks convincing because so many people doing the research already buy into that ideology.

To disprove their narrative, one would have to work very hard at it, tracking down ever conjecture of fact, fact, or rework the causal events. Its hard enough to do this with murder cases, its next to impossible to do this with a conspiracy narrative. To cut a conspiracy narrative to the quick, we listeners should always require those who are claiming a conspiracy to be indeed a fact, to suggest ways, facts, or information that they would agree would --If found or existed--would disprove their contention. Thus if I said that Ron Paul, never ever intended or truly wanted to be President, he just wanted to fill his campaign coffers for the purpose of having his own political library, and only he and a few other insiders know this was the real goal of running for office--I would have to both come up with facts linking it together (thus making a believe narrative) and suggest a way that this could be simply disproved - say interviews with his wife & family and 10 of his best friends, nothing written by Ron saying that was his intention, etc. My point is that Conspiracy Theories do not do what science does, that is, suggest what ways or data that could disprove the theories contention. With conspiracy theories, we are left with chasing down each and every rat hole, following each and every turn...and that may just take a lifetime of work to disprove or prove it as true.

Does that make for a good historian? I don't think so. That many of those in the past bought into One World Government, to me, goes to show how few of "us" there has been historically and even today! The fact is only a few of us believe Mankind would be better off WITHOUT a One World Government (let alone a UN) and DISAGREE with the policy of interventionism, for humanitarian reasons or security reasons, however its justified. We are few, they are most everyone else. We have never owned the moral high ground on these two twin issues, nor have we ever dominated the intellectual and business elites on this issue.

Take my own real estate industry as an example. Many republicans who are big-time real estate developers, have lots of money and influence, nevertheless BELIEVE in City General Plans and Zoning, despite the fact that it makes their world a living hell - they even conspire to evade or take a short cut around the system, but get rid of it? You must be kidding! The idea of not having an overall ALL ENCOMPASSING City General LAND USE Plan (think One World Government) and Zoning Laws (think specific UN Rules) is completely OUTSIDE of their imagination. Indeed, the few times I have suggested it, they made sure I was "just joking". Such is the power of an ideology so widely accepted that every actor helps to maintain the system.

The same goes for the storyline or ongoing narrative about what is or is not the SSP, which detractors call The North American Union. Which by the way, some of the supposed bad things about it sound very good to me - I would love to drive from Toronto to Buenos Aires on a perfectly safe US style free way in a camper trailer, but the loss of national sovereignty or control over our dollar (do we even have that now?) does not sound so good and is thus is a possible concern.

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http://www.debunk911myths...

So I am inclined to agree with Obama. The CFR is not some secretive nefarious institution. But of course I don't have a corner on the truth, but if you do, send your facts to me anytime.

In Peace & Liberty,

Treg