Check out the Fluoride loving nutjobs...
Group wants more flouride in public water
By RICHARD FELLINGER
Evening Sun Harrisburg Bureau
Article Launched: 05/13/2008 12:49:56 PM EDT
Health advocates rallied in the Capitol Monday for a bill to require more fluoride in public drinking water, saying it would help low-income people avoid serious dental problems and save taxpayer money.
The rally was led by PAFluorideNOW, a new coalition of public health advocates who are backing a bill sponsored by Rep. Stephen Barrar, R-Delaware.
The bill would require water systems with at least 500 connections to have the recommended level of fluoride.
About half of the state is served by water systems with the optimal level of fluoride, advocates say.
All water has a small amount of fluoride because it occurs naturally, but not enough to satisfy backers of Barrar's plan.
"We need to get people treatment before they have mass decay in their mouths," said Robin Rohrbach of the Healthy York County Coalition, which has been pushing for higher fluoride levels for more than 13 years.
While the bill is also backed by groups such as the Pennsylvania Rural Health Association, fluoridated water is a controversial issue.
Some critics claim it poses hidden dangers, such as the potential to cause bone disease, and they say mandating it would be an unwanted government intrusion.
Barrar's bill won initial approval from the House Health and Human Services Committee last year, and it is now pending in the Appropriations Committee, where its fate is uncertain.
Committee spokeswoman Johnna Pro said lawmakers have varying opinions on the issue and she could not predict if Barrar's bill will move.
"It's one of those issues that on the surface doesn't appear controversial, but in fact it is," Pro said.
York Water Co. does not add fluoride to its water, but will add it only to water in West Manheim Township when it takes over the township's system later this year. The company agreed to continue adding fluoride when it agreed last year to acquire the township system.
York Water Co. president Jeff Hines said he sees fluoride as a health policy matter that should be decided by elected officials, and the company would comply if the state mandates it. He also questioned why the debate centers on water and not other liquids.
"I guess my philosophical question is: Why put it in water and not something that gets ingested like milk, orange juice or soda?" Hines said.
While backers of Barrar's bill admit it would cost more to add fluoride to water systems, they say it would save money over the long term by cutting Medicaid payments for the insured with acute dental problems.
"If you think you're not paying for it now, you are," said Rep. Eugene DePasquale, D-York, a co-sponsor.
Barrar cited estimates that at least $38 would be saved for every dollar spent on fluoridating water.
Go over there and let the commenting commence....
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Combat Flouride buildup
Research Boric Acid.. it can be used to chleat flouride buildup in the body!
Thanks for the tip.
This MSDS says it's pretty dangerous, I guess it depends on the quantity?
http://www.jtbaker.com/ms...
I found a few links that said Borax, I'll do some more looking...
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It's about as reactive as table salt.
Salt irritates your eyes when you put it directly in them. Try diluting it. Boric Acid or Borax is what they give kids who eat tooth paste and have flouride poisoning.
Keep talking like this and
Keep talking like this and they will fluoridate you! Isn't one of the side effects of the brain damage caused by fluoride that it makes you more compliant? :-)
Pat
BOHICA!!
What jumped out at me was
York Water Co. president Jeff Hines.
Must be related to John Kerry, because he feels that this is a decision for elected officials i.e. he is not interested in the people's opinion.
Reminds me of "I'm not concerned about the voters" Willard Romney.
Have you ever seen what fluoride poisoning looks like ?
It is not pretty , I don't understand how in this day and age they could get away with this since they have done study after study that states fluoride has no dental benefits ?
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
Follow the money
Do a search on the Federal Grant money getting pumped into these projects. It is astounding how easy it is to lure out droves of "useful idiots".
I'm sure they can buy
I'm sure they can buy Flouride and distribute it to poor families for free.
Mesa Dentists
Exactly, let them buy their
Exactly, let them buy their own fluoride and put it in their water and sprinkle it on their food for all I care... They shouldn't use force to medicate others...
Activated alumina
This will help to filter out most arsenic and fluoride but is not as good as reverse osmosis or distilling as far as I know.
Nothing like forced medication through our drinking water. You don't get a choice - you must ingest the fluoride thanks to idiots like those in York and across the country.
Check this out:
Because of fluoridated water, now a lot of processed foods and sodas, even fresh veggies and fruit, have a fair to large amount of fluoride in them. So, when your water is fluoridated, you are also getting fluoride in many other sources.
A list of how much fluoride is in some processed foods: http://www.fluoridealert....
"The increase in percentage of communities with fluoridated water has resulted in an increase in the mean content of fluoride not only in soft drinks and fruit juices, but in canned goods (notably soups), leading to increased intake of fluoride by individuals in communities with nonfluoridated water."
SOURCE: Fomon SJ, Ekstrand J, Ziegler EE. (2000). Fluoride intake and prevalence of dental fluorosis: trends in fluoride intake with special attention to infants. Journal of Public Health Dentistry 60(3):131-9.
"Our data suggest that young children who regularly or frequently drink substantial quantities of [juice] possibly should not receive dietary fluoride supplements, since they might be at increased risk of developing dental fluorosis."
SOURCE: Kiritsy MC, et al. (1996). Assessing fluoride concentrations of juices and juice-flavored drinks. Journal of the American Dental Association 127(7):895-902.
"Seventy-one percent of the [sodas] had fluoride levels exceeding 0.60 ppm, which is considered to contain sufficient fluoride so that dietary fluoride supplements are contraindicated."
SOURCE: Heilman JR, et al. (1999). Assessing fluoride levels of carbonated soft drinks. Journal of the American Dental Association 130(11):1593-9.
"[W]e found that infant foods containing chicken were high in fluoride. Thus, any infants who regularly eat more than a couple of ounces of infant foods containing high-fluoride-content chicken would be at elevated fluorosis risk."
SOURCE: Heilman JR, et al. (1997). Fluoride concentrations of infant foods. Journal of the American Dental Association 128(7):857-63.
Very Interesting Website and Video:
The Floride Deception:
http://video.google.com/v...
23 published studies reporting an association of reduced IQ with high fluoride exposure.
http://www.fluoridealert....
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Rep. Stephen Barrar is scum
I'd like to see Rep. Stephen Barrar drink a cup of fluoride. Let him prove how good it is.
WTF
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Action is what defines men
There are
several interesting articles about the dangers of fluoridation at naturalnews.com. What scares me is that some fluoridation projects use industrial waste for fluoridation. How can that possibly be good? Researcing these types of nonsense tactics is how I learned about Ron Paul....
Anyway, here's one article:
www.naturalnews.com/02224...
To read more of them just go to naturalnews.com and type in fluoridation...
Fluoride is known to be one of the best cockroach poisons.
Perhaps that's how they consider the general population, as cockroaches, something you have to get rid of. What better way to do it via drinking water, either tap and now also in bottled water.
The negative health implications are rather severe. One just of the top of my head is interference with thyroid function (it meddles with the absorption of needed iodine) and many many auto immune diseases have manifested as a result.
I am only aware of 2 methods of eliminating fluoride from drinking water: distilling or through reversed osmosis. Are there any knowledgeable people here who know other solutions?
Good thing fluoride is
Good thing fluoride is forbidden in the water where I live.
I actually asked my doctor why there is fluoride in the water in the US.
He thought it was weird....
Where do you live?
I want to move there.
My bags are packed
I'm on the next C5 heading over there right now. Hope it isn't to cold and there are plenty of womens over there to keep me warm. Flouride free is where I want to be.
How
about making candy illegal (being sarcastic). I'm get really fed up with all thats been going on.
This is why everyone needs a
This is why everyone needs a Berkey Water filter.
I got the Berkey Lite. It's
I got the Berkey Lite. It's great!
I got it for $209 on eBay, free shipping. Sounds expensive, but its well worth it. Certainly cheaper than buying bottled water (which is probably fluoridated anyways!)
Berkey exactly...
Make sure you get yourself a PF-2 filter if you pick one up. The berkey carbon filters are great, but they don't take care of fluoride.
Berkey Water Filters
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To help PA
Maybe they should ban juice.
According to my neighbor that has taken in 38 foster children over the past 20 years, their teeth rot because they were put to bed repeatedly with a bottle of juice. The decay can be so bad that most of the baby teeth have to be pulled out. This is due to ignorant, lazy, parenting not because there is not enough fluoride in the water.
Food for thought...
The .gov is spreading this propaganda across the country. Think about their last target, tobacco. The anti smoking campaign is presented to the people to be a safety measure that will reduce insurance and medical cost, but in article after article you can find that the pharmaceutical companies have held back drugs which will cure major diseases but the .gov does not make them push out these meds so that the pharma companies can profit on treatment instead of cure. Even known cancer treatments that have shown huge leaps in not only controlling, but some that have brought terminal patients into remission, and these treatments were outlawed in the US. Radio wave cancer treatment has been blocked by your government for the last 40 years, and people still cheer them blindly. I look at this election cycle and the effect that the media as on the general public. What I see is really telling, and it also shows that the .gov controlled schools are really paying off for the political leaders of this country. I associate this with the football mentality. Many Americans have a favorite college football team, and year after year they support the one team regardless of their records of victory. Politicians use the very same tactic on te sheep that accept what their party leaders do and say blindly, because regardless of their record they will follow party lines blindly, and this is how we in these United States have come close to financial collapse. Many do not think we are in financial turmoil, they think it is our leaders best interest to keep the economy pumping and look over the reality that a poor impoverished America will do one thing, give the political members great powers as they are the only relief many people would be able to seek for assistance. So as these blind sheep cheer their party members with little to no knowledge of their policies gas prices shoot through the roof, taxes are at record highs and going to go higher, and the sheeple move on without a second guess where their dollars are going, and it appears that there is little concern about these items that effect every family of non privilege in this country. When gas hits 8.00 a gallon perhaps then the people will turn off American Idol long enough to decide on their own that we need change. This will eventually occur, and I hope it is sooner than later.
The Bush administration has done nothing for American families, they are pro illegal immigration, Pro Corporation, anti family, and the GOP state caucuses reflect the party liners that will follow their party to the complete and total collapse of this country. I base this on the fact that 73% of Americans are against illegal immigration and are willingly giving up their constitutional rights in the name of protection (the kind of protection that was given during 9/11, and the support given to the victims of Katrina) all the while leaving the boarders open against the will of the people. These so called leaders no longer care to represent the people of this country, and this election cycle shows no relief of improving this aspect of our lives in the United States. These are simple observations, and I would love someone to debate or disagree with anything I posted above, perhaps if nothing else to help me make sense of it all.
BT
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain
excellent information to digest...
a "dumbed down" america kept "informed" by government authorized media is a recipe for national collapse...too bad we'll all die in a false-flag attack before we can do anything about it
O'rly?
"Even known cancer treatments that have shown huge leaps in not only controlling, but some that have brought terminal patients into remission, and these treatments were outlawed in the US. Radio wave cancer treatment has been blocked by your government for the last 40 years, and people still cheer them blindly."
So you would prefer we turn off the linear accelerators down the hall which are actually capable of killing targeted cells using modulated high-energy photons and electrons in favor of what... longwave radio? Do you know what a wavelength is? Do you know how photons deposit energy in matter?
Before you state something like "these treatments were outlawed in the US" please keep in mind there are many countries combating cancer on all fronts. If something viable were banned here, it would surface elsewhere. Patients would subsequently flock to this foreign cure, leading our cancer centers to either close or adapt.
nice job, mekantor...
of ignoring the basis of the argument and injecting your own, self-aggrandizing thoughts...
before you attack one specific quote of this enlightening thought-speech, how about telling us a little more about how important you are and why you chose to ignor the extremely valid points otherwise made...doctor pharmacy!
I mostly agreed with the other points,
and highlighted the one that I regard as completely baseless.
jeffy logan
http://rfidinspect.com/ab...
"RFID Systems LLC is a
"RFID Systems LLC is a leading provider of RFID-driven applications designed for government and regulatory agencies."
Thats umm...disturbing...
sorry i screwed up the link
sorry i screwed up the link below
www.pafluoridenow.org
I laughed and laughed. those people are truly nutjobs
Im sure they can buy floride and distribute it to poor families for free.
But why kill us all together.
They remind me of the nutjob in University of Texas who was openly calling for the extermination of 90% of the world
lol
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
With so many idiots
With so many idiots polluting the world, I think 90% is a low estimate of how many need to be exterminated.
For more information
For more information regarding Fluoride Now, contact Peter J. Shelly at 717-645-3934
a google search for "Peter
a google search for "Peter J. Shelly PA" turned up something that could be even scarier...if it is indeed the same Peter J. Shelly...check out this sh*t...
RFID Systems LLC
http://rfidinspect.com/pe...
Peter J. Shelly
Vice President
As a former statehouse reporter and successful Internet entrepreneur, Peter J. Shelly brings hands-on business development experience and first-hand knowledge of the issues and players in Harrisburg and across the state. He is currently Vice President of Communications for Triad Strategies, one of Pennsylvania's leading public affairs companies.
In September of 1999, Shelly and three partners launched Capitolwire, an Internet-based state government news and information service. Shelly led Capitolwire through two significant venture capital rounds. He also led the company's acquisition by The Associated Press, the world's largest newsgathering organization, in August of 2002. As editor, Shelly opened Capitolwire offices in five state Capitols: Harrisburg, Trenton, Albany, Columbus and Richmond. Shelly also served as a Vice President and was responsible for site development, marketing and sales efforts at Capitolwire. He served as Director of Capitolwire until joining Triad in December 2002. Capitolwire has become an invaluable tool of the trade for lobbyists, government officials, lawmakers and their staffs, as well as dozens of trade associations across the state.
Prior to founding Capitolwire, Shelly was an award-winning journalist based in the Pennsylvania capitol newsroom for nine years covering state public affairs. Shelly worked for the state's second-largest paper, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette from 1995-1999. From 1990-1995, Shelly worked for the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, covering suburban news and the state capitol.
Before joining The Patriot News staff in 1990, Shelly was a correspondent for the Philadelphia Inquirer, covering suburban news in the Philadelphia area. Before moving to the midstate, Shelly worked for the Chestnut Hill Local and Montgomery Publishing, covering local news and issues in the Philadelphia and Montgomery County area.
In his three years at Triad, Shelly has crafted high stakes communications plans for a wide range of clients, including Verizon, the Pennsylvania Higher Education Assistance Agency, the Pennsylvania Motor Truck Association, Pediatrix Inc., Glen-Gery Corp., the Pennsylvania Partnership for Children, The Hershey Trust Company, Triad Strategies and the Associated Pennsylvania Constructors. These plans were crafted and executed in partnership with the clients' government and community relations teams.
A Penny for the Guy
good find but is it the same guy? anyone anyone?
A Penny for the Guy!
RFID Systems
116 Pine Street
Suite 400
Office 717.635.2342
Peter J. Shelly Vice President
717.608.5427
&
Fluoride Now, contact
Peter J. Shelly at 717-645-3934
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and over run by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what were putting up with” Ron Paul
Interestingly..."717-608"
Interestingly..."717-608" numbers are Harrisburg PA numbers. As are "717-645" numbers. That is rather suspicious. Two prominent Peter J. Shelly's in Harrisburg? Certinly Possible...but we cant be too sure. He certinly could have 2 numbers.
Fluoride AND RFID?
Would anyone with some better research capabilities like to do some research on this Peter J. Shelly? If this is the same guy...what does that imply? Think about it...one man working for an RFID company...and advocating fluoridation...that rightfully scares the sh*t out of me...
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a simple Whois for the
a simple Whois for the organization PAflourideNOW's website www.paflouridenow.org turned up this.
Domain ID:D150178345-LROR
Domain Name:PAFLUORIDENOW.ORG
Created On:04-Dec-2007 21:03:07 UTC
Last Updated On:03-Feb-2008 03:49:30 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Dec-2008 21:03:07 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Dotster, Inc. (R34-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:DOT-TNLYT9D240VP
Registrant Name:Brett Freedman
Registrant Organization:Kessler Freedman, Inc.
Registrant Street1:4902 Carlisle Pike, #374
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Mechanicsburg
Registrant State/Province:PA
Registrant Postal Code:17055
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.7177318637
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.7177310938
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:brett@epix.net
Admin ID:DOT-H44BTK9ENKSZ
Admin Name:Brett Freedman
Admin Organization:Kessler Freedman, Inc.
Admin Street1:4902 Carlisle Pike, #374
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Mechanicsburg
Admin State/Province:PA
Admin Postal Code:17055
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.7177318637
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.7177310938
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:brett@epix.net
Tech ID:DOT-ZLZH2QRWIP05
Tech Name:Domain Administrator
Tech Organization:Pair Networks, Inc
Tech Street1:2403 Sidney St, Suite 510
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Pittsburgh
Tech State/Province:PA
Tech Postal Code:15203
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4126816932
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.4123819997
Tech FAX Ext.:
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Name Server:NS133.PAIR.COM
Name Server:NS5.NS0.COM
Perhaps we should let Mr. Brent Freedman know the dangers of flouride...
brett@epix.net
Wierd, domain is offline
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ah nevermind Mr. Freedman is
ah nevermind Mr. Freedman is just a web developer...probably no affiliation.