Can't The Ron Paul Supporters Do Math?!?!?
Ron Paul campaign lends excitement to state Republican convention
Published: June 04, 2008 12:00:00 AM
The Washington State Republican convention this past weekend in Spokane should have been dull and uneventful. All they had to do was approve a slate of national convention delegates to support the obvious nominee, John McCain, vote for a short, concise party platform and leave town. Instead the tenacious Ron Paul people, who made up more than a third of the delegates, contested the McCain forces on virtually every front. When the convention finally closed early Saturday evening, the Paul people promptly held a march outside the convention center and a boisterous rally across the street. They just don’t know when to quit.
It’s this way across the country. The Ron Paul campaign, out of the running for months, continues to cruise in high gear.
Can’t these people do the math?
Of course they can. But Ron Paul’s candidacy isn’t about the math, at least not in the short term. It’s not even about the man himself. It’s about a movement. And what’s driving that movement is the conviction of many Americans that business as usual by both parties has broken the government. President Bush’s approval ratings are in the low-to mid-30s. The Democratic Congress’s approval ratings are under 20 percent. Americans seek a bridge between talk and action.
For many Democrats and much of the media that bridge is Barack Obama, probably the most gifted orator in a generation. He’s new, fresh invigorating. But what does he want to actually DO? Many of his supporters don’t know or particularly care. The Obama campaign isn’t about ideas or an agenda. It’s about him.
For Ron Paul, the message is the change. Never has he voted for an unbalanced budget or a tax increase. He doesn’t shop for federal “perks” for his constituents, nor has he ever sought or accepted an earmarked appropriation. His new book, a manifesto on applying libertarian principles to political action, hit the No. 1 position on the New York Times bestseller list.
And it doesn’t stop at the office. He won’t accept the handsome pension he’s entitled to after two decades in Congress.
His main difference with McCain is over the war, along with Paul’s libertarian social agenda of legalizing drugs and prostitution. But on several key domestic issues, McCain and Paul are in close alignment. Both are spending hawks, and both opposed the recent, disgraceful farm bill, nearly $300 billion of taxpayer subsidies for wealthy agribusinesses, which means higher food prices for you and me. Most of Congress voted for it, including the Senator from Change, Barack Obama.
Both McCain and Paul also line up on taxes. Neither has ever voted for a tax increase that became law and both would make this decade’s tax cuts on people and businesses permanent. Both would also appoint conservative justices to the Supreme Court. And on the biggest domestic issue in the next decade, health care, both McCain and Paul would let people choose their own health care plan and deduct health care spending from their taxes, while Obama and Sen. Clinton would do precisely the opposite and expand the government’s role.
Ideas, not imagery, will ultimately change Washington, DC. That is what the upcoming battle between McCain and Obama should be about. Millions of Ron Paul supporters and sympathizers will be watching. Their candidate has lost but his movement is growing.
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horrible title
math? are you serious? who are these people that love to post on our forum and piss us off? get the F out of here!!!! You're wasting your time trying to stall the revolution...
Visit the U.S. National Debt Clock
yes we can!
lets face it napalm John bomb Iran McCain is one scandal away from oblivion...time to rally the troops around an independent run Paul/Ventura gives us Dream Ticket and millions of people will be exposed to the message of Liberty.
email/call HQ and spread the word
RP08 to restore the Constitution
Independent run?
Brilliant. Then what does he do with his "Republican" congress position? Throw it away? Or try to do both? Who would vote for an idiot that was holding a Republican seat but was running as an Independent or Libertarian, especially when he said he WOULD NOT?? If he throws his Republican seat away, we have NO ONE fighting for us in congress. You people need to really think a little bit when you speak of the ridiculous "third party" nonsense.
Lets show them...
what a few million people who are bad at math can do when they get together.
RonPaulLincoln Lets show
RonPaulLincoln
Lets show them what a few million FIRED UP and FULL OF THE LOVE OF LIBERTY people can do when they get together!!!!!!
Yup, I Don't Count Much, But The Constitution Does
I can't count, but I can read. I read the Constitution.
Wrong. Link to the unconstitutional Federal prostitution laws.
http://www.prostitutionpr...
We CAN do the math and the numbers are going UP!
More and more people are waking up and joining the R3VOLUTION! We will not be quieted or passified by a psudo-candidate who does not support the Constitution or Freedom!
The fire of Freedom has been ignited by the despotism of our government. This inferno is set with resolve, it is burning with the perseverance of patriotic hearts. Those that would make a stand, those that are hearing the truth, are those that will be the fuel for this growing and spreading wildfire. This fire will be stoked by the love of Liberty. It will strengthen and forge our hearts with the passion of our forefathers. Let their spirit blaze within us as we continue the battle for this great land! We will not be exhausted by the never ending battle against tyranny to regain our nation. We will not be extinguised by the will of a one world government until it lies in ashes at our feet!
THIS IS MY COUNTRY and I WILL fight for her!
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Please don't attack me here
Please don't attack me here but I might think I know what's up with McCain and why he always looks drugged. In McCain's defense, I personally think that the corporatists are drugging him intentionally. I might also add that maybe the reason McCain stood with Bush for the 2004 re-election was because he was told to do so or else he and his family would be dead meat. I remember reading many things about him before 2000 and he seemed OK. But the corporatists manipulated him and turned him into one of their own. This doesn't mean I'd vote for him if he represents the same stances as he does now but I'm trying to add 1+1. Who knows, if he was able to stand up to the corporatists, he'd be the "maverick" the MSM was talking about. And I wouldn't be surprised if the corporatists intentionally disturbed Perot's daughter's marriage in '92. That's why we need to be a pain in the ass and kill that SOB Rockefeller. I hope God takes care of that anti-American, treasonous, Neo-Con, MF. The blue plate for tonight is justice with a pinch of blowback and it'll be served cold. Please, I'm just giving my opinion, it doesn't mean I'm voting for McCain. For the long haul.
I tend to agree
The last few times I listened to him I had the feeling his heart wasn't in it and the thought had crossed my mind that he is somehow being manipulated. Maybe our current administration wanted to force a war hero on the American people to further the war agenda. After all he came out of "nowhere" to become the presumed nominee while more "talented" politicans fell by the wayside.
I believe in 2000 he was considering leaving the GOP. Maybe that is when they got their claws into the "war hero".
PS: I am by no means voting for McCain either...but something is fishy.
He does take Ambien, among other things...
"McCain takes a daily aspirin to prevent formation of blood clots; an occasional Zyrtec, an antihistamine used for nasal allergies; and the sleep agent Ambien CR for treatment of insomnia when he travels."
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John McCain has some big
John McCain has some big problems! lmao
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Can't McCain Show Some Clarity and Consistency?
Will the real John McCain stand up? Actually, I don't expect him to, now that he is the Republican presidential candidate, pandering to the irrationalities that drive his party. Nor is it likely that the fawning mass media will pressure him to the point of clarity. But I remain genuinely confused as to what makes him tick.
McCain is the most confounding of candidates, veering as he does from the stance of provincial reaction to sophisticated enlightenment within an almost instantaneous time frame. He did it last week, when he blasted Barack Obama for being soft in appraising America's adversaries while in the same moment, calling for sensible rapprochement with Vladimir Putin's Russia on nuclear arms control. While such unpredictability can be appealing in a senator, it is unnerving in a possible President.
Unpredictability is welcome as evidence of fresh thinking, but not when it suggests inconsistencies that may be born more of crass opportunism than of insight. There are major contradictions in the McCain America has witnessed over the years that are truly troubling.
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We're already sold....
....on RonP and his movement, so it's easy for US to see nearly nothing but goood in the article. However, if you were a Hitlery fan...and you just hate Obama and you hate the Bush administration...how would this article affect your thinking? To me, the paragraph that Khomar pointed out about the drugs and prostitution thing...makes RP sound like an old hippie who wants to end the war and smoke dope. Hardly Presidential material.
I just don't find the article all that flattering...although, it is nice to see RP's name in MSM print!
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Vice.
Maybe this article is preping people for a McCain - Paul Ticket. Could be worse, we had to accept George Bush with Ronald Reagan. I would be nice to see what Ron Paul could do in the background as McCain is out recieving other Presidents, Queens, Popes and whatever grand names we give to people of no real importance.
Are You Kidding?
Ron Paul will NOT be offered a VP spot. The establishment would not want it for one and secondly, the most important, is that Ron Paul would never line up with someone that is so far from his positions on the key issues. The MSM has ignored him, the GOP has, and Paul himself has said, "Unless McCain drastically changes his positions, I will not endorse John McCain."
Whoever really thinks the GOP would have Ron Paul on ANY ticket is smoking too much of the medical grade mary-jane. I would be insulted if Ron Paul would line up with this puppet monkey for the CFR.
vp
McCain would pick Hillery before he would give Ron the VP.
complete.
Ron Paul campaign lends excitement to state Republican convention
Published: June 04, 2008 12:00:00 AM
The Washington State Republican convention this past weekend in Spokane should have been dull and uneventful. All they had to do was approve a slate of national convention delegates to support the obvious nominee, John McCain, vote for a short, concise party platform and leave town. Instead the tenacious Ron Paul people, who made up more than a third of the delegates, contested the McCain forces on virtually every front. When the convention finally closed early Saturday evening, the Paul people promptly held a march outside the convention center and a boisterous rally across the street. They just don’t know when to quit.
It’s this way across the country. The Ron Paul campaign, out of the running for months, continues to cruise in high gear.
Can’t these people do the math?
Of course they can. But Ron Paul’s candidacy isn’t about the math, at least not in the short term. It’s not even about the man himself. It’s about a movement. And what’s driving that movement is the conviction of many Americans that business as usual by both parties has broken the government. President Bush’s approval ratings are in the low-to mid-30s. The Democratic Congress’s approval ratings are under 20 percent. Americans seek a bridge between talk and action.
For many Democrats and much of the media that bridge is Barack Obama, probably the most gifted orator in a generation. He’s new, fresh invigorating. But what does he want to actually DO? Many of his supporters don’t know or particularly care. The Obama campaign isn’t about ideas or an agenda. It’s about him.
For Ron Paul, the message is the change. Never has he voted for an unbalanced budget or a tax increase. He doesn’t shop for federal “perks” for his constituents, nor has he ever sought or accepted an earmarked appropriation. His new book, a manifesto on applying libertarian principles to political action, hit the No. 1 position on the New York Times bestseller list.
And it doesn’t stop at the office. He won’t accept the handsome pension he’s entitled to after two decades in Congress.
His main difference with McCain is over the war, along with Paul’s libertarian social agenda of legalizing drugs and prostitution. But on several key domestic issues, McCain and Paul are in close alignment. Both are spending hawks, and both opposed the recent, disgraceful farm bill, nearly $300 billion of taxpayer subsidies for wealthy agribusinesses, which means higher food prices for you and me. Most of Congress voted for it, including the Senator from Change, Barack Obama.
Both McCain and Paul also line up on taxes. Neither has ever voted for a tax increase that became law and both would make this decade’s tax cuts on people and businesses permanent. Both would also appoint conservative justices to the Supreme Court. And on the biggest domestic issue in the next decade, health care, both McCain and Paul would let people choose their own health care plan and deduct health care spending from their taxes, while Obama and Sen. Clinton would do precisely the opposite and expand the government’s role.
Ideas, not imagery, will ultimately change Washington, DC. That is what the upcoming battle between McCain and Obama should be about. Millions of Ron Paul supporters and sympathizers will be watching. Their candidate has lost but his movement is growing.
False Information In This Article
Both McCain and Paul also line up on taxes. Neither has ever voted for a tax increase that became law.
What about President Bush and his tax cut that McCain voted against the first time around. Man, I wish people could see through the lies and distrotion of the propanda machine.
not exactly false
I dont like McCain, but -
The statementin the article said "neither has ever voted for a tax increase that became law"
just cuz McCain voted no on the first round for Bush's tax cut bill, does not mean he has voted for a tax increase. I didnt read the bill. I'll give McCain the benefit of the doubt, and maybe he voted it down cuz of some other provision tagged along with the bill. Who knows.
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The link does not work for me.
IMissLiberty
By the way
McCain is looking very ill these days. He is having a really hard time reading from the telepromters, his pupils are dialated to make me believe that he is being heavily medicated, and the left side of his face is showing signs of a stroke.
I don't wish any harm to anyone, but there are more than just one reason that Paul is sticking around till the convention.
Did he speak slowly and methodically
when he was young? He is so measured in the way he speaks. I, and I think most people, would think he is drugged.
Indeed
I bet he is heavily medicate/drugged at this point. His constant changing of positions, talking out of both side of the mouth, one would have to be drugged to be such a puppet of the establishment. I guess that is what happens when you are bought out like he is. Screw McCain.
By the way
McCain is looking very ill these days. He is having a really hard time reading from the telepromters, his pupils are dialated to make me believe that he is being heavily medicated, and the left side of his face is showing signs of a stroke.
I don't wish any harm to anyone, but there are more than just one reason that Paul is sticking around till the convention.
These two paragraph's are especially complimentary to Ron Paul.
For many Democrats and much of the media that bridge is Barack Obama, probably the most gifted orator in a generation. He’s new, fresh invigorating. But what does he want to actually DO? Many of his supporters don’t know or particularly care. The Obama campaign isn’t about ideas or an agenda. It’s about him.
For Ron Paul, the message is the change. Never has he voted for an unbalanced budget or a tax increase. He doesn’t shop for federal “perks” for his constituents, nor has he ever sought or accepted an earmarked appropriation. His new book, a manifesto on applying libertarian principles to political action, hit the No. 1 position on the New York Times bestseller list.
Unfortunately
The next paragraphs undermine Ron Paul by promoting McCain as an acceptable alternative.
The "problem" is.....
the Ron Paul supporters are VERY GOOD at math! It is math that woke them up and it is math that keeps them working.
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This guy has allot to learn...maybe he'll open his eyes someday
He did get one thing right... our movement is growing!
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McCain Math Is A Problem
Don't the McCain supporters see the connect to our financial problems because of the war and the spending involved to support this unjust war? Yes the main difference between Paul and McCain is the war, but the rest of our problems hang on the borrowing needed to support the war and the fed deflation of the dollar and inflation of prices.
I am constantly in awe on how McCain supports cannot put two and two together and see how all of it is related.
Most Republicans apparently
Most Republicans apparently have been hypnotized by the Fox News, Limbaugh, and Bush/Rumsfield rhetoric that they have been exposed to since 9-11. They have allowed themselves to be pulled into the misguided notion that you are not a "good" republican if you do not blindly follow their lead....either that or that you dare not speak out against this war because you will be bullied and belittled by the GOP leadership. I've seen this happen at our local GOP meetings.
If they have not been brainwashed by the rhetoric or given in to the bullying tactics, then perhaps some part of their brain has been wired to support all wars for wars sake.
Just a personal theory of mine.
You nailed it
Timg! That kind of math is too advanced for Mccinsane supporters.
Thank you
I have said so many times in the past ever since I learned about Ron Paul, but I am surprised that more people did not really get this message of limited government. I guess the idea of limited liberties is something American's embrace and the general public loves the idea of a welfare state.
I found it odd that the article
Would compare the sance of these men on spending and taxes. McCain opposed the Bush tax cut. And as far as being a spending hawk, McCain loves to rant about pork barrel spending, but is in bed with the lobbyist (both figuratively and literally)
Gut Feeling
In God We Trust!
I don't normally go by gut feeling but right now I have this deep gut feeling that McCain is about to give his account to "The Judge".
of course
Paul supporters are the best at math, thats why they support the only candidate with enough conviction to even mention how far in debt you, your children, and your children's children really are. Mind blowing how clueless some can be.
I do not fear death, I fear life without liberty.
Careful on the Digg here
From the article:
This article is a thinly veiled attempt to promote McCain. While McCain talks about making cuts here and there on earmarks, he has said nothing about the major shifts in government spending that are going to be required to avoid financial collapse. This article is trying to make McCain look like Ron Paul while bringing out the most controversial (and trivial) views of Ron Paul.
Understand that McCain does not want to change the way government works. In fact, he is very comfortable with life as it now stands in Washington. While he may be more conservative that Obama, that does not mean that he is a true conservative. One look at his record shows that he does not understand true conservative principles.
This article is an attack on the Ron Paul movement, and we shouldn't promote it.
Khomar you're right..
I liked this until I got to the paragraph that you quoted. I even thought about passing this on, but only copying the portion down to that point. You are right. It is an attempt to make McCain look like Ron Paul.
RP supports legalizing prostitution?
There are no federal laws on the issue, so I doubt this is true. He sees this, like drugs, as a state issue. And seeing as how Nevada has legal prostitution, with no federal interference, it would seem that there is no federal law on the matter that needs to be struck down. As for drugs, he advocates stopping the federal war on drugs, but is fine with the states regulating the matter.
That is correct
That is why the article bothered me. It is distorting Ron Paul's message and watering it down to make it appear to be just like McCain, but there is a world of difference in how they view government's role or how government money should be spent. This article is trying to ease the conscience of those who know they shouldn't vote for McCain but are not sure about Ron Paul. If McCain is "good enough", they will vote for him because "he can win."
This article is made the more dangerous because it has aspects of truth and appears to be positive when it fact it undermines the Revolution movement.
Yes, I did read it
and did not care for that either.
But the positives of the article outweigh the neg's in my opinion.
Thank's.
Better that the rest..............
I love this article.
Thanks cyndezu!! So very
Thanks cyndezu!! So very true and dugg...