Bob Barr Dirt post! FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE TROLLS
I would like to have a list, that is easily copied, that we can simply paste every time a Bob 'CIA' Barr post pops up.
We need to fight fire with fire. This is how free people fight back, not with regulations and rules given by the overseeing administrator. The truth will win every time. Just make a nice list and keep adding to it. If you find something to not be truth or not something you wish to bring up about him, just delete that section.
But don't back down to these invaders. This is our home, for our champion. Fight back against the imposters. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. You must fight back.
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Con-troll the trolls!!!
Go Troll Patrol...
What about........
the Jesse Ventura trolls?
This isn't Lord of the Rings. It is a debate forum.
Soo get in there, and debate.
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country,who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
Bump because there are too many barr post. Keep focused
Bob 'CIA' Barr 'was' CIA.
Bob 'CIA' Barr fought in the war against drugs.
Bob 'CIA' Barr voted for the Patriot Act.
Bob 'CIA' Barr voted for the war in Iraq.
Bob 'CIA' Bar =
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"Doctor Paul sounds almost apologetic to our enemies. He sounds much like the blame America first crowd."
"Libertarian" Vice Presidential Candidate Wayne A. Root
http://www.lewrockwell.co...
Aku Soku Zan
Wayne Root is a tool.
So which one is the turd sandwich now?
thanks 4 the quote
"Doctor Paul sounds almost apologetic to our enemies. He sounds much like the blame America first crowd."
"Libertarian" Vice Presidential Candidate Wayne A. Root
i watched the LP convention on cspan and thought that Wayne Root was a complete and utter too, thanks for confirming it!
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and over run by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what were putting up with” Ron Paul
Gotta had it to our "fighting spirit". If we're not fighting the
trolls on this site...were fighting for delegate slots for the GOP come hell or high water...
I think our theme song should be..."Against All Odds" (by Phil Collins)... :-)
GO RP!!
This is for all ya'll Barr
This is for all ya'll Barr people.... listen up.... You ARE trolls because by promoting your man your are pitting him against Dr. Paul. In case you've forgotten, he is STILL running for president. So, all of us TRUE Ron Paul supporters are fed up with your garbage and will NEVER agree with your support of anyone else... Dr. Paul has not endorsed him or anybody yet because HE IS STILL RUNNING HIMSELF!!! We true Ron Paul Revolution Patriots are following our MAN and will continue to do so and will follow his orders ONLY! You are WASTING your time here....
I'm sure, given the choice
I'm sure, given the choice all the pro Barr folks here at DP would choose Ron Paul hands down. They will all tell you that personally.
You are given
the choice so go for it.
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What is the question mark for?
did anyone not have a choice to go with Ron Paul? You, they, anybody.
I'm talking about the
I'm talking about the general election.
Then vote for him "hands
Then vote for him "hands down" and quit talking about Barr.....makes no sense talking about anyone else.... you people are just trying to distract the Movement.... we have enough work to do without having to research anyone else.... get back to us after September IF Dr. Paul doesn't win the nomination.... then we'll have time to do the research, although it sounds like most people here would prefer Baldwin over Barr... and we will wait to see who the good Dr. endorses....
Sounds like the majority
Sounds like the majority trying to silence the minority. Reeks of democracy. I prefer a Republic.
It's the actions of a few
It's the actions of a few shill artists that are the problem. I don't care if someone who is POLITE likes Barr.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
exactly
We could be allys with these guys if they could keep to one thread and respect Rons house- thats more than Obama or McCain will give them.
"Libertarians are leery" " I dont plan to get involved"- Ron Paul on Bob Barr
I support Chuck Baldwin.
I support Chuck Baldwin.
But if I was on here posting Baldwin SPAM, 400 times a day, invading every thread with my propaganda, complete with a signature macro that says "Chuck Baldwin and Ron Paul are friends! See> Youtube link" almost everyone would hate me, and there would be a backlash on the Forum.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
This post makes me sad.
This post makes me sad.
I agree
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My liberty-minded home base of thought:
www.ponderthis.net
Wow
At the moment, you rabid anti-Barr people make me feel like I want to vote for him more. Chill the heck out. Of course some Barr posts are going to end up on Daily Paul. Do you really believe people cannot support both Paul and Barr concurrently?
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My liberty-minded home base of thought:
www.ponderthis.net
Wow
At the moment, you rabid pro-Barr people make me feel like I want to vote for Paul more. Chill the heck out. Of course some anti-troll posts are going to end up on Daily Paul. Do you really beleive people cannot support both Paul and Barr from their appropriate forums concurrently?
"Libertarians are leery" " I dont plan to get involved"- Ron Paul on Bob Barr
When did Kemp say he was a
When did Kemp say he was a Barr supporter? He only said anti Barr posts were making him feel like he should.
Look all Im saying is he's not Ron Paul and he's had his 15
minutes at DP. We got the message...we're invited to the party. Its just really tacky to go on and on about someone else in Ron Paul's house. Tempers are short these days and we have no flag recourse so its a free for all for trolls- Let US decide "when its over" and time to start replacing Ron Paul- Its not a general forum- you may as well stink up DP with pro Hannah Montana threads- The message has been received- Ron Paul supporters are well aware of Bob Barr- afford us the courtesy visiting HIS forum if we choose. Its such a no brainer Im floored that its an issue. Ill stop whining when Manystrom announces that DP is now a watering hole for all candidates.
I left the Libertarian Party
I left the Libertarian Party forever because of Barr. I hate him. I don't visit the threads on here about Barr because it does not interest me. I don't have a solution because I like my fellow DPers to have freedom to say what they want, but it is irritating me as well.
When did I say Kemp was a
When did I say he was a Barr supporter? I only said anti-troll posts were making me feel like I should.
"Libertarians are leery" " I dont plan to get involved"- Ron Paul on Bob Barr
You replied to his post and
You replied to his post and said 'you rabid pro-Barr people make me feel like I want to vote for Paul more' which was a direct reference to his comments.
By all means, vote for Barr.
By all means, vote for Barr. Stick a dagger in the back of the Founders.
But I'm tired of people shoving it down the throat of this Forum. The SPAM needs to be ratcheted down in volume or this will continue to be a war.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
See ya!
I am standing up for RON PAUL on the RON PAUL FORUMS. I see more posts about Bob 'cia' Barr than of Ron Paul. And all I want is a way for people to fight back against the trolls that are trying to undermine the site. I agree with manystrom's taking away the flagging feature now that i've been able to see it in action because it allows people to come together and get the truth out regardless of how ugly it is. If you don't like that then i'll gladly accept your rights as a free person, since you don't want to use them :)
Aku Soku Zan
What in blazes are you
What in blazes are you talking about? He doesn't want to use his rights so you will take them? What do you accomplish by calling out your fellow Paulites as trolls and deriding their positions and making them feel afraid to post thoughts contradictory to your own?
Actually he's refering to Billy Dee.
As a barr troll. Billydee has only been here a short time and has done nothing but spam barr. As for Shishio I know him personally because I traveled out of state to South carolina to work a few days with the campaign in charleston before their primaries. We keep in contact. I don't call some one a troll unless they deserve it.
I have followed many of
I have followed many of Billy Dee's posts and I don't think he's a troll.
BillyDee is one of my favorite troll's
BillyDee is one of my favorite troll's.
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and over run by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what were putting up with” Ron Paul
You can't be serious....
To quote the hildabeast "it takes a willful suspension of disbelief' to think BillyDee is not a troll. Even if he represents your position.
Aku Soku Zan
Then you are a blind man.
Look through this entire post and comments.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Then think about your next answer to me.
Voting for the lesser of 3
Voting for the lesser of 3 evils is still voting for evil.
"Always vote for principle,
though you may vote alone,
and you may cherish the sweetest reflection
that your vote is never lost."
John Adams.
Irrational
Government itself is a "necessary evil," as Jefferson or Paine said.
I agree with always voting on principle, though. But my principle is to vote for that candidate who I think is going to do the least damage to liberty. I don't care whether he's "evil" or not.
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Barr's GLOWING support and admiration of Paul: http://youtube.com/watch?... Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/i...)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/wa...
BillyDee for Satan '08.
BillyDee for Satan '08.
"But my principle is to vote for that candidate who I think is going to do the least damage to liberty. I don't care whether he's "evil" or not."
Pronunciation
ră'sh(ə)nəl, /ˈræʃ(ə)nəl/, /"r{S(@)n@l/
[edit] Adjective
rational (comparative more rational, superlative most rational)
Characterized by truth or logic.
By your "rationale" it doesn't matter if someone is truthful, consistant, or sincere, as long as their mouth is moving and the right words are coming out.
You see, "BillyDee", it's not self indulgent to actually vote for someone who (in reality, not in some fantasy world) sincerely and acurately represents your views. Again, by your 'rationale', you'd vote for Hitler if he said the right things about the message of freedom. It wouldn't matter, he probably wouldn't get elected anyway, according to you. Well, guess what. Bob Barr won't get elected either, and your persistance here is strictly engineered to confuse, distract, and divide the Paul supporters. We know Dr. Paul won't be elected, we know Bob Barr won't be elected. Knowing this, what is 'rational' about voting for a neocon traitor who ('voted for the patriot act just so he could get on the committee to change it), instead of supporting the man who DOES represent truth, liberty, sincerity, and who has a proven voting record to back it up? Answer: NOTHING
Rational is in the dictionary..... you should look it up again and write the definition on the board of your 3rd grade classroom until it sinks in.
"Doc" Holladay
Nashville, TN
You're very confused
I quote you: "Knowing this, what is 'rational' about voting for a neocon traitor who ('voted for the patriot act just so he could get on the committee to change it), instead of supporting the man who DOES represent truth, liberty, sincerity, and who has a proven voting record to back it up? Answer: NOTHING"
It's not either/or. I support BOTH. I support Paul campaign to get votes and delegates in order to hopefully get a speaking spot at the Convention. AND, I support Barr in his race to try to get a speaking spot in the the general election debates. BARR IS NOT IN COMPETITION AGAINST DR. PAUL. DR. PAUL'S CAMPAIGN IS OVER AFTER MCCAIN IS NOMINATED. DR. PAUL IS NOT RUNNING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. BARR IS NOT RUNNING IN THE PRIMARIES. BARR IS RUNNING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. BARR DOES NOT TAKE AWAY VOTES FROM PAUL. PAUL DOES NOT TAKE AWAY VOTES FROM BARR. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ELECTIONS. ONE WAS A PRIMARY. THE OTHER IS THE GENERAL ELECTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
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Barr's GLOWING support and admiration of Paul: http://youtube.com/watch?... Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/i...)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/wa...
So let me get this
So let me get this straight.... rational to you is supporting Dr Paul, champion of liberty, and a strict Constitutionalist with an impeccable voting record AND Bob Barr, a neocon traitor who voted for the patriot act and the Iraq war. As you said "I support BOTH." So you support both the champion of liberty (Paul) and the patriot act supporting, destroyer of liberty (Barr) simultaneously. I don't know what Universe you're from, but in this one, that is NOT rational.
"Doc" Holladay
Nashville, TN
Mindless Party-based Drivel.
You are no different from the Yellow Dog Democrats and the Southern Baptist Republicans who vote for someone based on the party letter after their name.
I vote based on issues. Some issues matter more than others--I disagree with the Constitution Party's position on some social issues, for example, but the signing of the Patriot Act was a historic act of betrayal. Anyone who crossed that line has no business in government, let alone as a candidate for President on the Libertarian Party ticket.
One may as well ask a voter to elect an axe murderer Sheriff, because he says he's "sorry" and he says he's turned over a new leaf..
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
Not true
I don't care which party someone belongs too. I'll vote Republican, Libertarian, or Democrat. Give me someone who will help broadcast the message of liberty, and I'll support him.
Barr voted for the Patriot Act because it was the only way to get on the committee to water it down. http://www.nolanchart.com... You should be thanking him for that.
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Barr's GLOWING support and admiration of Paul: http://youtube.com/watch?... Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/i...)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/wa...
That sound bite does not
That sound bite does not work. He should have opposed it by voting against it.
But this isn't personal. I wouldn't vote for anyone who voted for the Patriot Act.
Dr. Ron Paul did NOT vote for the Patriot Act. That's a key reason I believe in him.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
WHAT PART OF 'YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT'
Do you not understand??? I will write in or not vote to show how I feel about it. ANYTHING ELSE IS COPPING OUT TO WHAT THEY ESTABLISHMENT WANTS YOU TO DO.
I will not vote for ANYONE if they do not meet my standards, not ever again. EVER.
No amount of faulty logic about voting for a 'lesser evil' will sway me or any true patriot. You are losing BillyDeez...
Aku Soku Zan
No you will not show how you feel
if you write in Paul. Dr. Paul will not be filing as a write-in candidate, so those votes will not be counted, or reported. No one will ever know how many people wrote Paul in.
Rest assured, Dr. Paul is not going to write himself in. He's going to vote for someone that's running - probably Barr. Writing Paul him in is the height of irrationality. He's not a candidate, and no one will see your vote except you.
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Barr's GLOWING support and admiration of Paul: http://youtube.com/watch?... Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/i...)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/wa...
We don't really even know if our vote is counted anyway.
We don't have tangible evidence of it. It is all just a bunch of 1s and 0s that some private company has the keys to.
He who votes ,decides nothing. He who COUNTS the vote decides EVERYTHING. Joseph Stalin
Ventura/Paul 2008
For god sakes...
I was one of the first members of our Meet-up. Did the precinct program, and continue to support Paul financially. I've got four copies of the book floating around with friends, co-workers, etc.. Remember its about the message.
So... What the hell is with some of the people here. Michael Schuer was CIA, and we all loved him. Geez.
I've stopped commenting on this site because of posts like this from all sides of any given issue. Get over yourselves. And by the way, it is about the MESSAGE. It has very little to do with who delivers it.
Personally, I like Barr, but even if he's a fake, he will have to continue to be fake. Coincidentally, that requires him to at least talk about and defend the message of freedom, and the Constitution.
I'll be more than happy to see 15%-20% of the electorate understand the Libertarian message, and vote accordingly. It can only move us forward.
I want a govt that is of for and by the people
Not a govt leader that is of for and by.... the govt. If you are in the CIA and you learn about them and still stay, then you are probably not in favor of power being for the people. The CIA is always involved in morally comprimising activities. There are good people in there, but they are usually not in 'the know'.
Aku Soku Zan
Lots of Libertarians bailed
Lots of Libertarians bailed on Bob Barr/W.A.R.
I am one of them...I was a libertarian for a long time. I was in the Free State Project.
Barr's voting record and recent "conversion" make him a very poor choice, the choice of a party that has leapt from "purist" to "sellout" in one leap.
The abhorrent neocon Vice-President clinches it. Anyone who would deem this loudmouthed warmonger--who promoted a McCain/Lieberman ticket two years ago--a "libertarian" should have his head examined.
No way would I vote for this party again, and I supported them in two presidential election cycles.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
Now there's something we can
Now there's something we can agree on. I don't like Root. Just my opinion but it doesn't smell quite right to me.
After watching the convention I believe Ruwart would have been the best choice. I mean come on. She grabs the Hillary vote hands down. This coincidentally introduces the older electorate to the Libertarian Party, which, in turn, leads to memories of Goldwater, and brings the Conservatives in and the circle is complete.
Root not a good choice... However, I've watched Barr quite a bit lately, and I pick up a twinge of sincerity. Couple that with straight-forward "everyman" speak, and it just might work. At the very least, libertarianism will be debated at a national level.