I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OR THE CONSTITUTION PARTY THE POPULIST PARTY OR ANY OTHER THIRD PARTY WHO WAS TOO

The cry is unite, unite, unite! The title is I will never vote for a third party candidate and the body is a dismissal of their efforts and importance. I don't now how a person can walk around with that type of cognitive dissonance.

Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both

both parties - CP and LP - desperately wanted Paul to be neither presidential candidate. Both Barr and Baldwin now close to Dr. Paul. If Dr. Paul is not presidential canidate, he will NOT apply to be a write-in candidate, meaning your write-in would not be allowed os counted in most state. It is useless to do that. Rather vote for either Barr or Baldwin. Sorry that they are divided in two parties, but a "protest" vote is also good and it is a good to have a vote against McCain, so that they know in which direction to move. Vote for Ron Paul candidates and then in the presidential election for either Barr or Baldwin. The LP has a better ballot access, in 48-50 states, while the CP only in 35-40 states.

And also,

eilif is ignorant. The Libertarian Party National Committee voted unanimously to invite Ron Paul to accept our nomination. Ron refused, more than once. Our bylaws prohibit us from nominating someone who declines. Had he stepped up for the nomination he would have gotten it. It would have complicated some things, but we'd have dealt with it.

So that's it. just another uninformed loudmouth making worthless noise.

Allen Hacker
LP Judicial Committee

www.LawfulGov.Org
Your Nexus to the Freedom Movement

I was out on the street corners on a regular basis. I gave money to just about every money bomb spending much, much more money than even on my own campaign. My wife and I still have our Ron Paul bumper stickers on our cars refusing to ever give in.

I have asked for some support from Ron Paul supporters. I have not asked for money because I know everyone is tapped out from giving to Ron Paul. But do you think I have received any support. Nobody has even offered to let me use their name as an endorser much less offer to right a letter to the editor to discuss my Social Security privatization key issue.

So, don't rip on Libertarians. We are the ones who are out there in force willing to join in and help any advocate for freedom to carry the torch.

It is the Republicans who are so dedicated to "party" that will not consider even a modicum of support to another party's candidate.

Andy Favor
California 73rd Assemlby District Candidate
www.AndyFavor.com

I trust Chuck Baldwin more than I can trust Bob Barr. But I haven't given up on something dramatic happening where McCain is unable to be nominated in September, and the Republicans nominating the only Republican who can win, in a desperate attempt to keep power. That Republican is Ron Paul. (And yeah, they would need to go to someone with a "suspended campaign", or even no campaign at all, once McCain "steps down".)

I would love to see a debate of Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, and Ron Paul vs. Obama (and Nader, and Bloomberg if they like.) Obama would get his pretty little head handed to him on a platter. (figuratively speaking of course.)

In the end, I would expect to hear Chuck Baldwin (and probably Bob Barr) implicitly tell people to vote for Ron Paul, at least in the states where it matters.

sKw

Your one vote is not going to make a difference one way or the other.

By the way, Barr was supporting Dr. Paul before Barr started running. And Dr. Paul speaks highly of him. Says he carries the same message and hopes his campaign is successful.

I stand by you fellow patriot. Hold the line in the wave of the splinter groups. They will pick off those of weak resolve. NO THIRD PARTY EVER. I will go not as a slave to a neo-conned party but as a free man with my liberties still in hand as the final blows are struck by the waves of the mob A.K.A. "The Third Party Coalition."

to Ron Paul ALSO supports Bob Barr.

And I've been here in the Revolution from the start.

Why is there such a pervasive mindset that somehow those who support Barr or Baldwin or McKinney are somehow newbies and never supported Paul?

Why does this group of naysayers want to make this all about one man, thus dooming the movement to die if he fails to obtain the nomination?

LISTEN to Dr. Paul - it's not about him - it's about the MESSAGE.

The message isn't Ron Paul, the message is FREEDOM.

get it now?

p.s - there were those who said Paul was a neo-con too. Had we listened to them, where would we be now. Do your homework people.

I will be voting for Ron Paul as a write-in.

Some posters here are making the mistake in logic of confusing individuals with the groups they belong to ("bigotry").

For example, the assumption that the Libertarian Party did not support Ron Paul is used to critique all the members.

The LP did support Ron Paul; you may have missed it because the press didn't cover it. Not only did the LP issue press releases about Ron Paul's candidacy, but its executive board invited Ron Paul to run on our ticket. What else can they do? Does it occur to anyone that an outright endorsement by the LP for Ron Paul (were it not made impossible by party by-laws) might have done more harm than good? How many GOP voters would have taken the LP's endorsement as a reason they should choose Ron Paul?

Surely no one expects the LP to disband and suggest all the members join the GOP. That would make the enemies of liberty very happy, but it wouldn't solve our political problem.

What about all their other candidates? When the dominant parties consistently nominate freedom-robbers, the LP is there nationwide to make sure freedom-defenders are on the ballot. Shutting down and joining the GOP would be suicide for the freedom movement's biggest advocate.

The members themselves are the very backbone of this movement to elect Ron Paul and promote his ideas. We aren't limited by the same restrictions the Libertarian Party, itself, faces, so we have been more active and outspoken as indivdiuals.

I first heard about Ron Paul when he spoke at the California LP state convention a few years ago. LP members are the core of his national support. I even registered Republican in order to vote for him in the primary and walked two precincts talking to Republicans.

The man who created and started the "R3VOLution" logo sign campaign was one of our candidates for chair of the LP. At our convention, many members sported Ron Paul gear. At the California state convention, the parking lot was full of Ron Paul stickered cars. Ron Paul support was everywhere.

You can't say the LP members have not gotten behind Ron Paul. They have, and earlier than most, they started in 1988. I think it's safe to say that Ron Paul would not have had this successful campaign if he had not first been nominated by the LP in 1988. That campaign is the foundation for this one.

In short, posters here are both overestimating and underestimating what the LP as a party can do. It is not powerful enough to even get its candidates into the debates and critics want it to throw its support to Ron Paul in the GOP. It is dedicated to local, state and national political change, and critics want it to disband in order to join the GOP for one single presidential race.

The Libertarian Party is "the party of principle." We are here for the long haul. We will not quit. We serve to get the issues out. If the LP weren't here and you are shut out of the GOP, you'd have to threaten to join the Democrats. If you're unhappy with the Democrats, you'd have to threaten to join the Republicans. The party you left would get the wrong message about what it is you want.

The LP serves a very important function. Support for the LP is always support for freedom. No other party can say that.

There is no need to insult your fellow Ron Paul supporters by blaming those of us in the LP for a failure that more properly lies with some of those in the GOP. The LP isn't the party that is lying, cheating and stealing votes away from Ron Paul delegates.

I support the freedom-defenders who are willing to work within the GOP and in the Democrat party to bring about change. I'll do what I can to help prod them from the outside.

We should stop trying to pick fights with our allies.

IMissLiberty

Where were these people when we were money bombing, and pushing this agenda forward? They were hiding in a corner waiting to see how it would turn out. When Liberty needed American men to stand for her, where were these people? When Ron Paul was fighting for our Constitution in the seemingly weekly Republican debates, where was Bob Barr?

My allegiance is not to a third party, but to liberty, to America and to Ron Paul! I'm not saying I won't vote for them come this fall, but I'm saying that's a long way from now. We have a March in DC on July 12th, and another march into Minneapolis on Sept 1-2. We have our issues, be it the war, the money, the rule of law ... we can only support the man that inspired my pride in being an American, and a free man ... and that man is Ron Paul. Come November, I'm sure my conscience will guide me to make the best choice of the options available to me.

Until then I only have ears and eyes and a mind for the cause of Liberty led by Ron Paul.

Didn't those two parties splinter off of the Republicans because the Republicans didn't live up to their own platform?

This year, when they had Ron Paul, a man who would feel at home in either the Libertarian or Constitution Party, and whom BOTH WANTED TO BE THEIR CANDIDATE, you would think they would have had the good sense to come home and build the momentum of the freedom movement in the Republican Party.

I guess there are some in the leadership of minor parties who would rather be a big fish in a small pond than work for real reform in a major party.

I think I'll start my own party. Then I can be the boss.

Too bad.

www.write-inronpaul2008.c...

party candidate he would not have achieved what he now has. He has come a lot further as a republican then he would have running as a third party candidate. Please understand that! In addition you would still have the other third party candidates and everybody loyal to their own party and all these party's still divided. But if these third party's would have had a little foresight and realized that Ron Paul was on fire some months ago and that was the time to act. The party's should have jumped in with both feet become republicans so they could have supported Ron Paul. When you finally have a man who has the chance to bring the party's closer to realizing their political goals than any other candidate they should jump at the chance no matter who where and what party the affiliations just do what comes naturally and get him elected. Instead they divided their efforts and diluted their strength each pulling in their own direction down to defeat the best shot they have had in decades. And still here you are still dividing still arguing over if it might have been better had he run on a third party ticket when you know damned well that if history teaches us anything it was not. After all this will you please wake up from your stupor and support RON PAUL NOW?
If Ron Paul sees us all getting behind him and sees his support growing, if he sees his donations, if he sees a headline "Third party's unite behind Ron Paul for all out effort to win the White house" then he will fight too.
But he is realistic so let us SHOW HIM DAMN IT ALL! LET US SHOW THEM WE ARE AMERICANS! WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU? DO YOU WAIVER SO EASILY? I AM FIGHTING MAD WITH YOU WHO ARE STANDING BY WATCHING US LOSE ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE OF YOUR LOYALTY TO PARTY. JUST LIKE THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. SO WE DEFEAT OURSELVES, YES? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? OR WILL YOU FIGHT?
MAYBE YOU ARE AFRAID TO FIGHT? AFRAID TO FAIL?
MAYBE YOU ARE SUBCONCIOUSLY SABOTAGING YOUR SELF AND THIS WHOLE RON PAUL THING?
WELL I AM NOT AND YOU JUST HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE. YOU, WE ARE FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS.
WE HAVE THE STRENGTH WITHIN US TO STAND TALL AND OVERCOME AND WE CAN DO IT! SO JOIN THE FIGHT ALL OF YOU THIRD PARTY MEMBERS, INDEPENDENTS AND FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS. COME ON LET US FIGHT WE WILL WIN THIS ONE IT IS TIME. BRING IT ON!

when the Neo-Libertaricons with Attention Deficit Disorder go away.

In the meantime, I'll be working to get my Ron Paul Republican Congressman John Duncan re-elected..

This website is about ruined now anyway, by the Neo-Libertaricon lunatics who wish they could have gotten Dick Cheney to run for them, but settled for Barr/Root, which were as close as they could get..Then seemingly every other Libertarian on the planet is in a desperate search for ANYBODY with some name recognition to pair with some ludicrous imaginary ticket that somehow includes Ron Paul. I'm waiting for the Britney Spears/Ron Paul suggestion, or the Paris Hilton/Ron Paul ticket to come up soon, on some unknown independent party that isn't on any of the 50 states' ballots, but is stated to be a "sure winner".. I'm sure it will.

Maybe after November and the Neo-Libertaricons have gone away, the real revolution can pick back up where it was before they ruined it.

At this point, this website is totally useless. I'm really surprised that the moderator has let it get ruined to this extent and done nothing. Even with the boldest and most destructive trolling ever going on, which clearly has no good to come of it for the RP Revolution, and is slathered with self-interested promotion for candidates from some other parties, and overt disdain for RP supporters.

You are right on the money, this is exactly what I have been saying-please guys, don't fall for the evil elitist's plan, lets gather back together, united we stand, Ron Paul is our one and only chance. He is the one who has been willing to hang in there, when no one else would, we must have him as our next president, and I believe we will, if only we stand steadfast. Perhaps he will run independent if he sees enough people are still committed, if need be-(although I still believe God can cause something to happen that he could also win the nomination.)
He has consistently said that he will stay in the race as long as the support continues and the movement grows, so seeing everybody dividing will only send a message to him that people no longer care-for myself, I want one man as my next president-I want Ron Paul, and I will not settle for anyone else-he is the chosen one, don't let the evil elitist's take that away from you. It's Ron Paul or Obama, and everyone knows for liberty, Obama is not on our side. Please guys, lets get behind our guy and show support, remember: slow and steady wins the race-Ron Paul has proven himself indomitable, we must do the same- be like bulldogs and hold on to win.

What we need is some new ideas to breathe more life right now -I have a couple, lets everyone get our noggins thinking and get the enthusiasm back-I have not heard Ron Paul say he is dropping out, and I will not give up because I know he can win, if we will just stay in there and keep working together. GO RON PAUL-next President for America-Land of the Free!!!!

backed Ron Paul 100%... were you asleep? They went so far as to offer him their nomination - which he declined.

The Libertarian Party would not have had a candidate either, if RP won the nomination.

The GOP, MSM and ignorant (both un-informed and stubborn) voters are the main reasons that Dr. Paul did not secure the nomination. I'd say the folks running his campaign also have a hand in it - but to a lesser extent.

IF RP isn't on the ballot in November, I will once again vote Constitution Party.

Barr has issues - and Root has shown his true colors (BANG!) - they have not earned my vote.

All if the 3rd party groups have the same thing in common. Restoring the constitution and saving our liberty.
Ron Paul has been the best and most successful person in spreading this message. Why all of the 3rd party leaders aren't still backing him is beyond me. The collectivist mentality must seem to get in the way.

Our current government can always count on us to ruin it on our own.

the people need to be united.

we are raising hell and we won't quit. Ron Paul all the way!