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Or day of depending on whether or not they let RP speak, is when he switches to CP or finds another route. I respect the infiltrators working on the GOP right now, but they will NEVER let you get close the chain of command positions at the top. There is obviously an agenda that the globalists want accomplished, and they will stop at nothing to deny you control. These people are serious! Look at how they purposefully tried to humiliate Ron Paul every chance they had in the debates. Fake focus groups quickly thowing their hands up when asked who thought Ron Paul did the worst. C'mon people. I think it is less of a fantasy getting Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura to run, than believing a NWO party can just be completely taken over. That's the facts folks. Evil forces are at work behind the scenes. That's why evil shit is happening all the time. Let this Revoltion continue into the fall and at least wake enough more people up that we might have a fighting chance. It will probably take mass protest in the streets across this country to change anything at all.

in the face to the Republican voters in Ron's electorate?

Maybe Dr. Paul needs to brush up on his English skills because apparently some people don't understand him when he says "no" to a third-party run.

Kevin, I'm not sure what the best strategy would be but I will tell you that I am with Ron Paul wherever he goes and will be bringing many people with me.

If RP joins the Constitution Party to become their nominee, I will then be a registered member of the CP that same day or the next.

I've sat here and seen the back and forth on the CP, LP, Barr, Paul, etc.

Let's settle this once and for all.

The CP has nominated Baldwin, and the ballot access they are working in is for Baldwin. NOT PAUL. If they switched, they'd have to do the petitions all over again and they would not make the deadlines. Not to mention the cost involved. CP will get 40 states max. That is not worth the effort for Paul, and he knows it.

The LP has nominated Barr, and is in the same situation, with the same reasons.

But the idiots who bash both the CP and LP on here need to STFU. Remember that the LP was the R3VOLution 20 years ago. Remember that the R3VOLution logo and terminology was started and developed by an LP member (Ernie Hancock). The GOP is the late arrivals here to the LP party, not the other way around, and it was YOUR GOP that helped to stack the deck against third parties in the first place, then you have the gall to complain that they don't accomplish anything? Since your GOP is really the ones to blame for it, along with the Democrats, STFU!

Paul has said repeatedly that he's in the GOP race to the convention, period. No changes of party, period. The parties he would change to have made their own selections and have moved on and have their own candidates.

As for the GOP, whether or not they come to their senses regarding Paul, their fate is sealed. They will be the victims of an electoral bloodbath in both houses of Congress come November no matter which statist fool (Obama or McCain) wins the White House. The early reforms have petered out because the powers-that-be got wise and have counteracted it, and the reformers have not had a counter of their own. You can keep trying, but you're going to fail, precisely because you don't seem to get that the R3VOLution is not about the GOP--it's America, stupid! The GOP is dead by 2016, guaranteed. The question the R3VOLution must answer is this: will they try to climb the nearly impossible mountain and try to form a new party to replace the GOP? Or will they make use of the options (LP/CP) that have already climbed that mountain in part and make them better?

with what a lot of people have said already. There are arguments for and against this strategy. But there is one argument which really needs to be made. It takes a long time to usher in real change. If Ron Paul ran on a third party ticket we would raise him probably another 40 million, we might get him into the debates, and a couple million might see the light. If we play our cards correctly, we might top 20 percent. But anything short of winning the election, and the movement takes a blow. It is probably best to reclaim the republican party and shoot for nominating a paulesque candidate for the 2012 nomination.

Please do not get me wrong, I am not giving up and am not a troll. But I really don't see the Republicans letting us win and whoever mentioned the fact that the media and politicians will say "see he was a libertarian along", is absolutely correct. I think the best way is a slow and steady surge within the party. Besides, the republicans are losing members so quickly that we can become a majority in a few years just by hanging in there!!!

Some of you guys still don't get it. You keep doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

We have the formula for taking back America the only problem is a lot of Ron Paul supporters want some miracle shortcut. It has worked in several states. In my state of Idaho it is working we have taken over some of our county central committees and now with some allies in the party we have a good chance of taking over the state Republican party.

We could take over easily if more self proclaimed Ron Paul supporters would have gotten off their collective asses and out of their comfort zones a little and stepped up to the plate.

People want to wave signs donate a little money and think that is going to solve things. Give me one hundred activist in the state willing to canvass and phone call and we could have delivered the state to Ron Paul.

The reality is we don't have the media and canvassing and phone calling is the only alternative when the media won't give you the time of day and you don't have a billionaire to run half hour infomercials. Yes it's a pain in the ass and I don't like doing it but it works.

Running 3rd party won't change a thing you'll still have to canvass and phone call only more so since the party bots will not even listen to you. And I know not enough people will NOT do it because they didn't do it when it really counted.

I am still amazed at what has been accomplished by the few who did the heavy lifting. So my question to you is what are you waiting for? the formula is there for us. Or will you still let your fears and emotions stifle the action needed to do what it takes?

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I'm not with you on this one. I'm still fighting as a delegate.

The point is moot, because Ron Paul would never go for it. But I decided to read the Constitution Party platform. I didn't make it past the preamble. In my book, government and religion do not mix. You might say I favor a "wall of separation."

1) If Ron leaves the GOP, then the neocons win their control over the party permanently.

2) It would be spun to point out that "See? Ron was never really a Republican, good ridence to him and all the paultards."

3) He is running for his legislative seat as a republican. He can't run for President for the Constitution Party while running for Congress in the Republican party.

I hear Jesse Ventura mentioned alot with regards to a Paul/Ventura ticket, but that won't work:

1) Jesse is convinced that Pro-Choice is a libertarian position, and he is pro-choice.

2) Jesse is against securing the borders, and is pro-amnesty.

Otherwise I like him.

I hear Barr and Baldwin mentioned alot too. I like 'em both a lot better than Obama and McCain. Unfortunately they do not stand a chance for reasons obvious to us (CFR domination over MSM and Trilateral/Bilderberg control, etc.)

Ron can't run as anything other than a Republican or he can't retain his congressional seat :/ We need to face the fact that we can't do anythng about winning the presidency for our movement, period. Where does that leave us? Promoting Ron Paul type candidates to as many offices as possible from the bottom up, starting with local and state seats. Grass roots efforts to educate others around us. Just write in Paul, and follow the advice of the founders by voting on principal, rather than the lesser of 2 evils.

And just in case that don't work and the worst of what we suspect comes true, then be sure to stock up on food, supplies, gold/silver, and ammo to defend yourself and families.

God bless;

Kel

true and factual and proven?? No surprises coming?

Can we for sure get the Constitution Party on 50 states?? Because last I heard, they were only on 35 and working on 5 more. If he is not on every ballot, that is no good.

Does he have to do it before the RNC? Or could he wait until September?

Is a totally Independent run out of the question??

I'd love to see it, but this would be viewed as a signal from Ron Paul that the campaign is about him and not the message. They're not the standard bearer that Ron Paul is, but Bob Bar and Chuck Baldwin are both saying the right things and continuing the dialogue in the right direction. To the extent that you question their sincerity, than that much a shorter leash you must keep them on. All this effort of trying to grow our numbers to then turn around and write in Ron Paul on a ballot that won't get counted in many states is ludicrous (unless they're both not on the ballot). You might as well write your own name on there. I completely fail to understand what it would accomplish. This isn't about Ron Paul. It isn't about making yourself feel good or righteous. It's about making your voice heard. There's two candidates for whom a vote will represent a vote for limited government.

Somebody can have my soapbox now.

I wrote him personally on his hq site and ask him to please not stop after the RNC.

One way or another we need him to go to November. We need to give this everything we have.

We also need to get paper ballots in November.

I will support whatever he does. I don't care where or how Dr. Paul takes it to November, I will be behind him. I will max again as soon as he announces.

We need Ron Paul's voice out there now more than ever, and The Constitution Party is clearly a logical home for his voice.

He will then be able to at least challenge Bob Barr (fraud), and the Green Party candidate to a set of policy debates -- even if he is not allowed into the McInsane-Obama debates.

This gives people a legitimate voting option in the fall, and also helps draw further attention to Ron Paul's book "Revolution", and further attention to the movement to reestablish the U.S. Constitution as our Nation's governing law once again.

A Ron Paul/Jessie Ventura ticket would electrify millions of people and would be just too hot for the U.S. Media to ignore. It could be awesome.

Let's do it!

But a third party run would cost a LOT and If we could somehow raise A LOT of money then maybe he would do it. Other than that he knows it would be fruitless.

Maybe we can convince the CP to run a Paul/Ventura ticket if we can help them get ballot access. It's a start. Check your state here.

http://www.constitutionpa...

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

the only problem I have with this is that part of our message/mission was to change the Republican Party and fix it... I don't like the idea of giving up, switching parties, etc.... Plus, Ron Paul would be kind of a hypocrite to go back on his word about being a Republican... he already has been criticized for being a libertarian once...

Let's not turn Ron Paul into "that guy who has been in every party." It makes him sound like he changes parties for political advantage...

I'd vote for him of course... but I'm still hoping McCain dies....