How viable and realistic is the possiblity of a Ventura/Paul ticket in Nov?
Posted June 8th, 2008 by defe07
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I've been reading recent posts from many people saying that Ventura and Paul should be running together on an independent ticket. OK, hear me out. I've read about the "sore loser" laws where Paul couldn't run but possibly have another name as a stand-in (possibly names like Gary Johnson for example). We need to think clear now. The Revolution won't be televised now more than ever by the mainstream and we must take advantage of this. 5 months to plan our attack on the duopoly, the MSM and the corporatists. We all know that if we split up into factions, it means they've won before even playing. I know I've said that I was leaning towards voting for Barr (only for the cause of freedom) but with this idea coming back to life, I don't think we have anything to lose. So, what needs to be done to convince Ventura and Paul that we'll do anything to fight the establishment? Something like a massive moneybomb or something? If we don't stick together, we won't accomplish anything, We must reach common ground like we did with Dr. Paul and focus on the message of freedom. We also have a constituency that's up for grabs, the Reagan Democrats. If 48% is pissed off at the MSM options, we can do something. Just please, let's put our heads together. I wish you all the best and keep on working hard for freedom.
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As long as you asked
There is NO possibility of a Ventura/Paul ticket. Paul has made it clear he will not run as a 3rd party candidate.
That's probably so, and
That's probably so, and apparently no one in the movement shares any interest in him running Third Party. I posted trying to get support for Ron Paul to run Third Party the other day and all people did was snarl at me.
But even if they did support him running Third Party, they still wouldn't want him to run as somone's Vice-President.
With the ticket reversed and Paul at the top, I would have no problem, but I still can't see it happening.
Why didn't Ventura run for the Libertarian nomination? I would have probably voted for him in November.
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As long as you PERSIST in
As long as you PERSIST in putting Ventura at the top of the ticket over Ron Paul, it has absolutely no chance of support from this movement. Don't you realize Ron Paul should be running for President, not Vice-President? Why is it always posted as "Ventura/Paul"? Really, why not just run Ventura with someone else if you value him that highly? Let him carry his own weight.
Also what party are you planning to run this on? I don't think you can get ballot access for an Independent run or brand new Third Party this late in the season. If anyone knows the definitive answer, I'd like to hear it.
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Kevin
I fully agree with you. Some seem to buy into Ventura's arrogance at times. Ventura has indicated that he may run for senator in Minnesota and that is perhaps the best. Paul and Ventura have several similar positions, but Ventura is not only outspoken pro-choice, whereas Dr. Paul is strongly pro-life, he has also openly critisized organized religion, as governor and I understand also in his recent book. How good do they think this will fit with a principled Christian as Dr. Paul and how much votes do they think such a ticket would get from the disenfranchised Christian Republicans in the South especially?
A Paul-Barr, or Paul Johnson (and in the sore loser states a Barr-Paul ticket?)
would be the best, not only that they are closer to each other and Barr/LP will have ballot access in at least 48 states, but also as Barr can appeal perhaps better than Paul to traditional conservatives in the SOuth where Paul did not fare so well, while Paul can appeal to also conservative Greens and Democrats and is now better known... they will be a good team: both conservative-libertarians, both pro-life and both constitutional Christians and friends...Barr will give way to Paul as also Baldwin, but the LP has better access than the CP.
Well, I can't grok with Barr
Well, I can't grok with Barr for reasons I have stated explicitly in the past.
But I'm going to stop throwing rocks at the LP, too. This movement is broken into three pieces and all we are doing is factional squabbling that reminds me of the politics in "Monty Python's Life of Brian".
Paul with anyone on a Third Party ticket sounds great to me, but I don't think the idea can fly at all until September...I hope I'm wrong, because it should be in the serious planning stages right now.
I still think Paul/Baldwin is the best shot because it's most likely to happen, diplomatically speaking, if you get my drift. But I'd vote for Ron Paul on any ticket. Hope there will be one.
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Movement Just Starting!!!
I just read my 2008 Oregon election laws and they do not prohibit Paul from running for VP. While my first choice would be to have Ron top the ticket, they won't let him here because he lost in the primary. Check out your states election laws thoroughly and find out. When you do, discuss them here. Also, getting Alex Jones to back this idea is a good idea. It's time that all of these people who push the Revolution( Ron, Jesse, AJ) step up to the plate and recognize that this is it folks. The window is closing! Write Alex an e-mail and tell him to contact Jesse about this idea! If we don't try then we have given up.
http://helpdesk.infowars....
Movement Is Done
Sorry to let some of you down. We have been run over by people who understand nothing about politics. To suggest Ventura and Paul would run together is stupid. The person does not know the ballot access laws. We started as a freedom movement into a narrow minded loser movement.
see ya fucker!
but i do agree with you about the silly ventura thing.
i mean come on you people.
i know you went throught compulsory education, but shit.
so did i!
and you don't see ME swearing by alex jones just because i believe 9/11 to be rotten to the hilt.
here, have a brain.
it's on me, pardon the pun.
begun, the revolution has
begun, the revolution has
well you've made this post
well you've made this post and i saw another you made about Barr..so it's safe to say that you've jumped ship...Sorry to hear it but buh bye...
Logic, I said I was leaning
Logic, I said I was leaning towards Barr only as a message for the movement, to open the 2 party system for once and for all. I was never ever pledged to voting for Barr. Since we don't know what's going to happen, we need to shit or go blind but not doing anything won't help. I'm still committed to Dr. Paul and the campaign, otherwise I would've left. Now if it's a crime to look for another candidate that can help spread the word of freedom and continue to lead the movement, tough luck because Dr. Paul said that the Revolution wasn't about him, it was about the message of freedom. Just because I mentioned considering Barr doesn't mean I won't consider Paul if he's on the ballot. Since we can't agree on doing something, people who try to take a stance shouldn't be called someone who jumped ship. If I'd jump ship, it means I'm a troll. But go through my posts and see what most of them are about. Idea of considering an international freedom march the same day, for example. If I were a troll, I'd be promoting a person's agenda and be spewing hate at Dr. Paul. Trolls don't try to bring up good ideas for a candidate.
Movement is done?
Well, it is probably past time you leave then, coward.
Why don't you do us a service, other than leaving, and provide some insight into ballot access laws,as we are EXPLORING this possibility.
Since you seem to know it all,why don't you provide some evidence to back your claims. Otherwise, hit the road.
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country,who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
The Dems and neoCons have
The Dems and neoCons have their candidates. The gloves are off and the fight for the independent vote has begun. As time presses on people are becoming aware that a choice is inevitable. The casual voter is starting to listen a little closer now that it is down to two mainstream candidates. Right now HRC supporters are looking at McCanus because they cannot bring themselves to support Bama. These two demographics must reject McTrotsky in favor of writing-in "None of the Above" as a final protest vote.
The close of the September convention Jessie has to declair his candidacy and we have to demand representation in the debates.
Until then we need to aquire ballot access.
Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008
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IT'S NOT!! JESSE VENTURA IS ALREADY RUNNING FOR SENATE...
How many times do I have to say this before people listen?
Jesse Ventura is running independent for Senate here in Minnesota.
Plus, Ron Paul has already said he is definitely not going 3rd party/independent.
Perfect example of an IGNORANT RESPONSE
Someone poses a legitimate question and here comes someone talking out their ass with nothing to back it up.
Show me the proof that JV has thrown his hat in the ring for a senate run.
I am getting really frustrated with the folks that say it can't happen.
SHOW ME WHY it can't happen! Show me the laws or financial hurdles that prove it cant happen.Otherwise STFU
I am going to try and get through on Alex Jones' show Monday. I could call him on his cell phone,but I want him to be "on the spot" and the record for saying it can't happen.
He is the one who has ignited the spark that caused the flame of the revolution. He can ignite THIS flame as well. He has contact with both camps and has the courage to make this happen,rather than being a pussy and crying that there is no possibility.
I heard the question posed to Jesse Benton on AJ's show the other day,and I must say that Jesse Benton is a waste of money.
Things are not going to magically get better folks. You are not going to change a party that has money that is older than the hills. Unless you are Bill Gates, you are not going to do shit,as far as changing the GOP. Not to mention WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
THE ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING.THE ELITES ARE TRYING TO GET US INTO WWIII. AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO BOUNCE BACK AS WE DID AFTER WWII. WE ARE BEING BLED TO DEATH THROUGH INFLATION!!
Jesse Ventura is the only hope for this pathetic campaign. I am not talking about the grassroots,I am talking about the spineless idiots RP has employed to run his campaign.Yeah,I said it SPINELESS.
Without the AMAZING EFFORTS of the grassroots,this campaign would have fizzled out like a fart in a skillet.
I am asking you now,to take a look at the possibilities of this and report back with what you have,not whimper like little cowards.
We have made great strides. It has been because of us,not HQ.
You don't like my words,TOUGH. I speak what I feel in my heart of hearts to be the truth. NOW LET'S EXPLORE this possibility,and see what our obstacles are, and FACE them head on like men,not boys.
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country,who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
Bull
Show me the article where Jesse says he's running for senate. He has only stated that he MIGHT jump in that race. So until he does, stop trying to discourage those with a REAL plan. We dream while were're AWAKE!!!
Very realistic
and DEFINITELY viable if and only if we have the guts to request OUR candidates for once. RonPaul2008.com still has the donation form up, so we could plan a Paul/Ventura moneybomb and just donate there. Then they will know there is too much support to quit after Republican Convention! Another idea would be to have a bookbomb and buy Jesse's book and let him know why!
Tell the campaign your thoughts.
http://www.ronpaul2008.co...
The same reasons that prevented Ron Paul from applying for
a write-in license in my state with money-bomb funds are the same reasons that have prevented him from running 3rd party with money bomb funds. I think he has some set in stone perameters as to just how far he's willing to tweak the Republican party. He will continue the campaign as long as its supported- as a Republican.
I never heard him say "as a Republican"
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country,who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
I added that- I assume that since he has always maintained
that he wants to change the direction of the party means that he has no intention of leaving it- supported or not. Itd be interesting to know what the support would have to be in order for him to agree to run 3rd party. I would think with 6% support he'd pass...but for the sake of brevity if FIFTY percent of Americans (pipe dreaming here) supported his 3rd party bid he may just change his tune. If I could ask him a question, Id probably not ask him "any chance of running 3rd party?" but rather "what percentage of support from the American people would you need before considering a 3rd party run?" A loaded question he'd probably laugh off- but one that Id love to know the answer to.