Riddle of the day. 6/10/08. By Rhino

Posted June 10th, 2008 by rhino

I think I am going to try to do a riddle every day.

I enjoy the ones that come up from time to time on dailypaul.

It won't be RP oriented, but freedom is the message.

I will try to mix it up, but I am sure my interests will shine through.

If it is like most of my posts and gets little action, I may get disinterested and stop, but I will do my best.

All riddles will get an updated answer sometime in the evening.

Not an I.T. guy, but if someone wanted to coordinate some sort of prize for the winning answer that would be awesome.

So here is the riddle for today.

I am of man as opposed to nature
My name of letter nomenclature

My carcass, organic
My view, panoramic

My scraps were lit
For a bit
Then left to quit
So as to use it

Good luck all.

We all have our roles.

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Another riddle

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

I'm giving it a shot, here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

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umm

On June 11th, 2008 JUSTCOMEHOME says:

Alberto Gonzales talking about torture...LOL

RHINO IS AN FLDS, BOB BARR

On June 10th, 2008 adam1mc says:

RHINO IS AN FLDS, BOB BARR AND NOW RIDDLE TROLL.

FLAG!

For the record

On June 11th, 2008 rhino says:

I will never vote for Barr.

We all have our roles.

ummmm...okay? I must actually say that this has been very entertaining while here at work the past two days. While we skim, look, and wait for new Ron Paul stories or discussions...it passes the time quite nicely and exercises the brain.

So....to flag this is sorta silly in my opinion.

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Federal Reserve to the American People:

"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."

Especially since the flag

On June 11th, 2008 Kevin Tuma says:

Especially since the flag feature has been disabled for a week.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

I completly agree clintontj72...

On June 10th, 2008 Swearengen says:

....even if my answers were WAY off base, it's a lot of fun trying to figure it out!

Thanks rhino for taking the time to put 'em on here!

Al.

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On June 10th, 2008 moonslippers says:

here is the answer:

On June 10th, 2008 rhino says:

The Model T.

The first two years it did not have a top, hence the panoramic view.

Its frame was made of wood.

Ford started a company, Kingsford, to covert his scrap material from the Model T into charcoal and sell it for a profit.

We all have our roles.

See you tomorrow.

God Bless.

Love to bar-be-que

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

When you said "I love to bar-be-que", the "I" was not referring to the answer to the riddle (Model T), but to a product made from the scrap of the answer.

And while the frame may have been wooden, there was still a lot of (non-organic) metal in the Model T - enough so that I don't think it's fair to say its carcass was organic.

I still think propane was a better answer, though "carcass" does not really fit.

"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."

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I read all below.

On June 10th, 2008 rhino says:

This was a bit vague.

I will get better with time.

Thanks for all the input.

We all have our roles.

my guess...

On June 10th, 2008 thid1 says:

Recombinant DNA

Fertilizer or Rocket Propellant

On June 10th, 2008 clintontj72 says:

Most modern fertilizers are made using Natural Gas! And Rocket Propellants(solid) use many of the same processes.

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Federal Reserve to the American People:

"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."

LPG

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

(as explained below in my "thinking out loud" post).

a.k.a propane

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Kerosene

On June 10th, 2008 oruval says:

Letter nomeclature threw me off.

good guess

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

That sounds like a good guess, since it's used as jet fuel and thus has a panoramic view, but I still think my ,propane guess (below) is better because of the bar-be-que hints.

However, you have an extra clue since Rhino said this is one of your interests and you'll like the answer. Do you happen to like bar-be-queing or hot air ballooning? Flying airplanes?

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I actually

On June 10th, 2008 oruval says:

refer to Kerosene in my discussion about how it is not hot enough to negate the stressing of steel in order for say a building collapse at free fall speed. Like three hirise steel framed buildings did on 9/11 supposedly.

Jet fuel is mainly refined kerosene. Same stuff you put in your gas to clean your fuel system and to do an engine flush when you change your oil. In other word not anywhere hot enough to create energy to enstate a catastrophic collapse of steel framed buildings.

Propane is a good guess. I am waiting to hear the answer.

not to turn this into a 9/11 discussion

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

But since we're waiting to hear whether it's kerosene or propane, I don't think anyone is claiming that the burning jet fuel alone is responsible for creating the heat that weakened the metal supports. My understanding is that it was a combination of stresses that eventually caused the steel supports to fail. The fire caused by everything burning that was initially lit by the jet fuel, the length of time it burned (oven effect), and combined with the extra stress put on the remaining supports when some of the other supports were destroyed or severely damaged by the initial impact is what makes sense to me.

But yeah, if you measure the heat output by burning kerosene in a lab, and expose steel to that kind of heat, then it is not going to fail. You have to put it under the tons of weight of however many floors were pressing down on it. Remember, each support is design to support X amount of weight. When some of the other supports were destroyed and damaged by the initial impact, this shifted the weight to the remaining supports, presumably exceeding the weight at least some of them were designed to bear. NOW add the weakening effect of hundreds of degrees of heat to that, and you have a recipe for disaster. All you need is to have one weakest link. As soon as it started to fail, that would again shift even more weight - that the weakest link was still holding for about an hour so - to the remaining supports, among which there had to be a weakest link, which too would fail. It seems easy to conceive how this domino effect could occur within a few seconds, causing an apparently sudden total failure of all supports almost simultaneously. Now you've got the whole mass moving down an entire floor, and that force, accelerating, is way beyond anything the supports in the next floor were designed to ever come close to withstand, which caused them to fail, etc. Why is this so hard to understand?

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Charcoal

On June 10th, 2008 AmericanFirst says:

Someone already said this, but I also think this is right.

Rhino said it was wrong

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

but getting warmer.

Another reason I think it's propane.

"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."

Advocating for minarchical libertarianism since 1984...

thinking out loud

On June 10th, 2008 Minarchist says:

"I am of man as opposed to nature" - man-made.
"My name of letter nomenclature" - do you mean "my name is of letter nomenclature?". Anyway, "letter nomenclature" is the alphabet, is it not? So "my name" is one of the letters of the alphabet? Or is a homonym of the one of the letters? Like "Bee" or "Sea".or "Pee" or "Tee". Or "C-note"? OR, this could mean that the name is an acronym, like IBM.

"My carcass, organic" - Even though I'm man made, I'm composed of organic material.

"My view, panoramic" - this means "my view is wide". This could be a tall wooden building.

"My scraps were lit" - What is "my scraps"? What is leftover of the materials that are used to make me? These are lit?

"For a bit" - "lit for a bit" implies "heated" to me, rather than burned to nothing.

"Then left to quit
So as to use it" - Unclear what was "left to quit". Grammatically, we're still talking about the scraps. But what quits? The fire? The heat? The scraps themselves? And what is "it"? I know it rhymes with "quit", but the subject - "My scraps" - is plural, so it should be "to use them", if we're talking about the scraps.

So... something that is man-made, has an acronym (or letter sound) for its name, is made of organic material, has a panoramic view, and the scraps from making or destroying it are lighted, burned, or heated for a short time before they are used.

Plus; it loves to bar-be-que, has nicknames, is an Oruval interest and "charcoal" is "getting warmer".

I'm thinking PROPANE (a.k.a Liquefied Petoleum Gas or LPG). Its view is panoramic when used in hot air balloons...

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