I thoroughly enjoyed the education. I find it par for the course that the ones who object to it are the ones clinging to their religion. Zeitgeist was classic for this, most rebutles were "The bible says this and this so Zeitgeist is wrong", that cracks me up. In no way does it degrade family values when it promotes love amongst everything. Values should go deeper than family or broader.
Unless someone actually spends the time to debunk their research, than they are spouting false possibilities. With dozens of religious teaching books in today's world, how could anyone be so sure theirs is the right one? The possibilities of the world changing because of magnetic fields and frequencies, in my opinion are much greater than man coming down from the clowds to pick and choose who will survive. Its kind of like the story of Santa Clause, have you been naughty or nice?
I also noticed that the Zeitgeist and Esoteric arent asking for 10% of my earnings.
Like Kelldor below, many folks are unable to detach from their programming, and view things for what they are. Perhaps the American Indians had it right all along; they were more like the Jedi..they worshiped the tree, the rock...mother earth. They followed the patterns of the night sky and survived for thousands of years without a government or taxes or pollution.
I haven't watched E.A. yet, but plan to over the weekend (if I can sneak time away from my un-believing wife!).
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BC
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
Zeitgeist and Esoteric Agenda are both disinfo pieces of the NWO. There are many parts of these movies with great info, but there are other parts where claims are made with no evidence to support them, and you are expected to take it in as fact. A perfect example of the propaganda aspects are the parts related to Christianity and Ancient Egypt (in Zeitgeist at least).
In my view, I believe that these movies attempt to promote a degradation of family values, and continue the liberal attack on non-communitarian belief systems such as those we embrace, like personal responsibility, individual liberty, adherrence to the Constitution, etc.
In closing, I would recomend watching these movies, but I would include a disclaimer in the same breath. Let people know, yes, there are some good facts in them (the part about the FED is awesome), but, be careful not to just buy into them in their entirety, because they both have a bunch of bunk in them too, that can lead you down the path to Globalism. Thx.
Warning to those who lack a free mind-they can't stand it for more than a few minutes.
I've asked a few people to watch it and they dismiss it as crazy, conspiracy talk and laugh it off.
I think the presentation needs to be cleaned up a bit to awaken those in a deep hibernation. We also need to learn from the NWO handlers who have been trying to "train" us for so long. They did it gradually-so maybe we'll have to be patient and bring up topics slowly.
For those of us with a completely open and investigative mind the movie is the information you need.
I've skimmed through the comments and some people say this movie advocates doing "nothing". I suppose they didn't see the end of the movie when the narrator tells the end of every Bill Hicks routine; quote
"The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.
Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid - ever - because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.
'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.'
It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that - ever notice that? - and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over - not one human being excluded - and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace."
While this quote is played images of JFK, RFK, MLKJr., and Gahndi flash on the video. To my mind this is the most powerful condemnation of doing nothing.
For those of you still on the ride its time to get off and start telling others its just a ride.
be open minded all the way...
perhaps listen to some uplifting music like this http://www.youtube.com/wa...
and venture out there to learn about the reality.
Im saying that I enjoyed the entire 2 hrs and 06 min. and it was a good watch. But if you get depressed halfway through hang in there- the end of it I found to be inspiring. Alot of "informative youre fu*ked " documentaries leave you feeling overwhelmed. Taking control of your own behaviour is where change starts- your actions are really the only thing that you DO have control over- if we can reign ourselves in then we can effect outward positive changes in our world- otherwise we're just pissed and regurgitating talking points that make sense to us. Self awareness isnt going back to sleep - its truly waking up. Laaawd listen to me I sound like a freaking hippie. Im really not honest.
However, it is not entirely accurate. Egypt was just a blip on the map when Abraham left Chaldee, the center of Mesopotamia. Abraham was the first to use circumcision. The Hebrews were in Egypt for four hundred years. No doubt they influenced the Egyptian culture. Also, the Sabbath is known to be the Sabbath in so many languages. English is the only language that calls the seventh day Saturday. Sabbath keeping had nothing to do with Saturn. In the Bible it clearly forbade any worship or following of the stars. All of the pagan cultures around them did but the Hebrews did not.
But there is a lot in Esoteric Agenda that is informative. I do not believe, though, that we can just imagine all of this away.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
over Zeitgeist.. The producer of Zeitgeist is Peter Joseph but I can't find a reference to his involvemend in Esoteric Agenda.
Without taking all and everything in both movies as gospel, it is interesting information which I believe will sooner or later fall into place.
The documentary Ring of Power is probably a better overview of it all, and put into perspective most of the angles both Zeitgeist and Esoteric Agenda touch on.
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008 http://www.gopetition.com...
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008 http://www.gopetition.com...
Lot of BS in Zeitgeist, lies and personal agenda. I heard theres also a lot of BS in this one
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
"I heard" is not a very intelligable debunking. You know you can go to the Zeitgeist website and check his sources. If you wanna debunk Zeitgeist you're gonna have to debunk his sources.
It is cleverly done and makes a personal point. Especially, the religous part. Much of the bible was changed to make it look similar to the Egyptian messiahs because they wanted to convert the pagans. There are a bunch of other reasons.
I like a Youtube video called RING OF POWER: Illuminati Bloodlines That was neat! HEre it is http://www.youtube.com/wa...
The money changers changed everything
but denying god striked me. that seems to be the whole point of zeitgeist. Ignore all the evil doers and blame all the worlds problems on god. forgetting that stalin, hitler and other tyrants and murderers were also atheist.
ill chek out your documentary thnks
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
Another great tool for waking the masses
I thoroughly enjoyed the education. I find it par for the course that the ones who object to it are the ones clinging to their religion. Zeitgeist was classic for this, most rebutles were "The bible says this and this so Zeitgeist is wrong", that cracks me up. In no way does it degrade family values when it promotes love amongst everything. Values should go deeper than family or broader.
Unless someone actually spends the time to debunk their research, than they are spouting false possibilities. With dozens of religious teaching books in today's world, how could anyone be so sure theirs is the right one? The possibilities of the world changing because of magnetic fields and frequencies, in my opinion are much greater than man coming down from the clowds to pick and choose who will survive. Its kind of like the story of Santa Clause, have you been naughty or nice?
I also noticed that the Zeitgeist and Esoteric arent asking for 10% of my earnings.
LOL..I agree Racer...
Like Kelldor below, many folks are unable to detach from their programming, and view things for what they are. Perhaps the American Indians had it right all along; they were more like the Jedi..they worshiped the tree, the rock...mother earth. They followed the patterns of the night sky and survived for thousands of years without a government or taxes or pollution.
I haven't watched E.A. yet, but plan to over the weekend (if I can sneak time away from my un-believing wife!).
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BC
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
NWO disinfo
Zeitgeist and Esoteric Agenda are both disinfo pieces of the NWO. There are many parts of these movies with great info, but there are other parts where claims are made with no evidence to support them, and you are expected to take it in as fact. A perfect example of the propaganda aspects are the parts related to Christianity and Ancient Egypt (in Zeitgeist at least).
In my view, I believe that these movies attempt to promote a degradation of family values, and continue the liberal attack on non-communitarian belief systems such as those we embrace, like personal responsibility, individual liberty, adherrence to the Constitution, etc.
In closing, I would recomend watching these movies, but I would include a disclaimer in the same breath. Let people know, yes, there are some good facts in them (the part about the FED is awesome), but, be careful not to just buy into them in their entirety, because they both have a bunch of bunk in them too, that can lead you down the path to Globalism. Thx.
Teach them... and they will come!
"I see" says the blind man. If you can open their eyes... you can open their minds!
And this is a war over the minds of mankind
Spread the word and donate - http://www.dvds4delegates...
The war on your mind -- http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion91...
It changed mine
Warning to those who lack a free mind-they can't stand it for more than a few minutes.
I've asked a few people to watch it and they dismiss it as crazy, conspiracy talk and laugh it off.
I think the presentation needs to be cleaned up a bit to awaken those in a deep hibernation. We also need to learn from the NWO handlers who have been trying to "train" us for so long. They did it gradually-so maybe we'll have to be patient and bring up topics slowly.
For those of us with a completely open and investigative mind the movie is the information you need.
I've skimmed through the comments and some people say this movie advocates doing "nothing". I suppose they didn't see the end of the movie when the narrator tells the end of every Bill Hicks routine; quote
"The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.
Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid - ever - because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.
'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.'
It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that - ever notice that? - and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over - not one human being excluded - and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace."
While this quote is played images of JFK, RFK, MLKJr., and Gahndi flash on the video. To my mind this is the most powerful condemnation of doing nothing.
For those of you still on the ride its time to get off and start telling others its just a ride.
you are so right
for those that are asleep to the reality I usually direct them first to Press for Truth movie~
with many it just has to be a gradual awakening...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.dvds4delegates...
http://www.flickr.com/pho...
Who
Knows the next date of reoccurring events in the time frame for the Illuminati.
That might tell us when they are going to pull another false flag.
Anyone?
Sombody?
It will be between now, and
September 8th 2008. It will be while Congress is at recess, or shortly after they return.
we have a lot of work to do...
RP08 to restore the Constitution
bump for Liberty
Truth is treason in the empire of lies...
about being uplifted
listen/watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
it is amazing rendition of Linkin Park
In The End song...
made my eyes teary for many hours...
RP08 to restore the Constitution
hang in there for the last 20 min
the end in my opinion makes this one better than Zeitgeist. Thanks for the link legalizeliberty : )
I would say
be open minded all the way...
perhaps listen to some uplifting music like this
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
and venture out there to learn about the reality.
Ron Paul/Jesse Ventura 2008
for Liberty !
Yeah, that's where they say do nothing just go back to
sleep, right?
"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson
ha ha Greed !
Im saying that I enjoyed the entire 2 hrs and 06 min. and it was a good watch. But if you get depressed halfway through hang in there- the end of it I found to be inspiring. Alot of "informative youre fu*ked " documentaries leave you feeling overwhelmed. Taking control of your own behaviour is where change starts- your actions are really the only thing that you DO have control over- if we can reign ourselves in then we can effect outward positive changes in our world- otherwise we're just pissed and regurgitating talking points that make sense to us. Self awareness isnt going back to sleep - its truly waking up. Laaawd listen to me I sound like a freaking hippie. Im really not honest.
yes
yes the change starts with you/me/us..............
RP08 to restore the Constitution
you have that 100%
Right legalizeliberty, it starts with all of us.
Some interesting history
However, it is not entirely accurate. Egypt was just a blip on the map when Abraham left Chaldee, the center of Mesopotamia. Abraham was the first to use circumcision. The Hebrews were in Egypt for four hundred years. No doubt they influenced the Egyptian culture. Also, the Sabbath is known to be the Sabbath in so many languages. English is the only language that calls the seventh day Saturday. Sabbath keeping had nothing to do with Saturn. In the Bible it clearly forbade any worship or following of the stars. All of the pagan cultures around them did but the Hebrews did not.
But there is a lot in Esoteric Agenda that is informative. I do not believe, though, that we can just imagine all of this away.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Personally I enjoyed watching Esoteric Agenda
over Zeitgeist.. The producer of Zeitgeist is Peter Joseph but I can't find a reference to his involvemend in Esoteric Agenda.
Without taking all and everything in both movies as gospel, it is interesting information which I believe will sooner or later fall into place.
The documentary Ring of Power is probably a better overview of it all, and put into perspective most of the angles both Zeitgeist and Esoteric Agenda touch on.
bump for love&light
RP08 to restore the Constitution
bump
RP08 to restore the Constitution
Watch this Ed Griffin video and you might understand
"Esoteric Agenda" better.
Here is the link.
http://video.google.com/v...
do nothing, do nothing, do nothing...go back to sleep, go back to sleep, LOL.
"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson
I DON'T THINK SO. The Video tells you to do NOTHING, as far as
I could tell. In other words, this is a video that does not change your life, in my opinion.
"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson
thanks
thanks
cheers
RP08 to restore the Constitution
Interesting film, thanks..
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...
my pleasure
I like this movie even better than Zeitgeist
me too..
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...
Zeitgeist was BS thats why Im not watching this crap
Lot of BS in Zeitgeist, lies and personal agenda. I heard theres also a lot of BS in this one
________________________________________________________________
"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
"I heard" is not a very
"I heard" is not a very intelligable debunking. You know you can go to the Zeitgeist website and check his sources. If you wanna debunk Zeitgeist you're gonna have to debunk his sources.
Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008
Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocrac...
After watching ZeitG a few times I can understand.
It is cleverly done and makes a personal point. Especially, the religous part. Much of the bible was changed to make it look similar to the Egyptian messiahs because they wanted to convert the pagans. There are a bunch of other reasons.
I like a Youtube video called RING OF POWER: Illuminati Bloodlines That was neat! HEre it is http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
thnks galactic. Im not denying the bible was changed
The money changers changed everything
but denying god striked me. that seems to be the whole point of zeitgeist. Ignore all the evil doers and blame all the worlds problems on god. forgetting that stalin, hitler and other tyrants and murderers were also atheist.
ill chek out your documentary thnks
________________________________________________________________
"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
He doesn't deny god. He
He doesn't deny god. He denies organized religion.
Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008
Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocrac...
wninja thnks for clearing that up
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul
Zeitgeist 2: Addendum comes
Zeitgeist 2: Addendum comes out in September after the convention.
Paul or NOTA2008 - Ventura/Paul or NOTA2008
Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocrac...
Oh I didn't realize these
Oh I didn't realize these were the same people who made Zeitgeist.