"Florida at the Precipice of Depression"
The following is a post from Le Metropole Cafe member Mike Morgan:
June 5 - Florida at the Precipice of Depression
I was going to call this "Banks March Us Into Depression," or maybe more fitting is . . . "Complete Collapse of US Banking System." Folks, that is what we are looking at. I don't see any way around it. What we're seeing here in Florida, is your crystal ball. And what happens here, is coming to a town near you . . . soon.
This past week I didn't write anything, because what I am seeing unravel is disturbing to the point I had to question what I was seeing and hearing. So I decided to take as much time as I needed to digest it all, and then put something together for you. So here goes . . .
I could prepare volumes of spread sheets with Bernankesque numbers. I could talk about commodity prices and oil and third world politics and a dozen other metrics that all lead to the same conclusion. But let me give you a ground zero look. That¡¯s what I do best. I will leave the manipulation of the numbers to the folks on Wall Street that do it best. The same folks that have created the precipice they will soon push us off.
I spend a great deal of time dealing with Asset Managers hired by banks stuck with REOs. So as not to re-hash the events leading to the housing crisis, I will not discuss the free-money policies of the past, and I will not discuss the absolute lack of accountability in making the bad loans of the past. Let's just deal with how the banks are attempting to recover.
Unfortunately, banks are not making a realistic effort to address the crisis. That may be because they cannot. As the banks and builders have announced write down after write down, my mantra has been . . . and continues to be . . . NOT ENOUGH ¨C NOT ENOUGH ¨C NOT ENOUGH. I still believe that. The builders and the banks have underestimated the magnitude of the problem, and they continue to do so. Analysts continue to look at the rear-view mirror and attempt to manipulate numbers based misguided historical assumptions. NAR and the economists continue to twist the numbers, lie and then slip in prior-month adjustments without actually comparing apples to apples. But that is another article. The bankers and the fat cats on Wall Street sit back and watch the carnival, collecting fees from everyone they can snooker.
I have recently started turning away REO properties from banks and asset managers, even though hundreds of thousands of real estate agents nationwide are lined up waiting for these listings. I made the decision because we have reached a point where these listings are costing us money, and the asset managers are squeezing harder and harder . . . because they can. There are GREAT asset managers and there are incompetent ones. The majority fall into the incompetent bucket, but we eliminate them quickly. The banks, on the other hand, continue to throw away money with the bucket of incompetent managers. It seems like the mortgage brokers that pushed funny money for the last six years are now starting asset management companies. We still work with a number of asset managers and banks directly, but the list of asset managers is growing smaller as properties fail to sell. When that happens, properties are bundled up and sold in bulk or at auction. This puts further downward pressure on markets because of lower prices and the inventory was not absorbed . . . it just changed hands.
Banks cannot afford to take 50-75% hits on mortgages, and that is exactly what is happening. The precipice is here, and we are on it. Recent reports about home sales rebounding are insignificant, because no one is accurately describing the growing inventory build-up. Banks simply don't have the margins to deal with this crisis. And for that reason, we will see massive bank failures and this will snowball into a complete economic meltdown. If you have an argument against this scenario, I'd love to debate you on a live conference call. We deal with the banks. We know what is going on before the numbers show up at the Fed or any analysts desks. We deal with the public, so we hear the desperation at all levels. I listen to grown men cry about how to explain to their families that they are losing everything. I listen to people that I fear are on the verge of suicide. I read about people committing crimes simply to put food on the table. Spend a week with me, and you¡¯ll understand why there is no feasible way to avoid a Depression.
The banks will fail, just as they failed in 1929 . . . but worse because this time some of this leverage is as high as 40:1. Insurance? Where is that going to come from? There is no insurance that can cover the cost of the coming bank failure, unless we just print more money. We are two generations removed from 1929. I am talking about Biblical 40 year generations. And when you look at who we were in 1929 and who we are now, you'll realize just how ugly it is going to be. In 1929 there was a stronger base of family values. There was a work ethic that we don't see today. The generation from 1929 - 1969 grew up with a totally different set of values than the generation from 1969 - 2009. The first generation worked their way out of the Depression. Today's generation doesn't understand work. We only understand creative financing and how to live off the next generation. And sadly, that is where we are today. We are at the precipice, and we are going to push our children over the edge because we lived so far above our means and ignored all of the warning signs. We lived just like the Romans in their final days.
Harsh? Like I said, spend one week with me, and you will go home with a new outlook about life, people and the crisis that is unfolding. You will go home with a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach. Guaranteed.
Just Florida? No, but Florida is your crystal ball.
The next generation? I would like to think we will eventually build ourselves out of this Depression with nuclear plants, solar and wind farms, seawater desalinization plants, cars of the future and a biotech/health industry that one can only dream of. Unfortunately, who is going to get their hands dirty? For those that study history, how would we manage a WPA with today's generation? It will be a much tougher recovery, because we have lost the fundamentals that made us the greatest country in the world.
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This is a very telling
This is a very telling chart.
http://calculatedrisk.blo...
Anyone that goes on TV and tells you everything will be alright is either ignorant or is being intentionally deceptive.
jezz
I live near Bradenton, FL in the country, ain't bad yet other then houses are not selling easily. Dark prediction there, that seriously scares me. I'm trying to find a job, having a hard time!
Why do you think they are pushing for a flat tax
it will be a managed collaps. The flat tax will not include property tax at first. As people lose their homes the banks will rent them. Once the majority of property is all rented look for the property tax to become part of the flat tax. The banks sure won't want to have to pay for property tax on all these properties. They will own the homes and you will rent from them and you will be paying all the taxes for them. welcome to sufdom. Owning property will only be for the elite. The rest will be the workers of the land. its called slavery.
Just
Just reminiscing....After I graduated high school in '98 I moved to central florida for college. I remember heading down route 200 in Marion county on my way to my uncles' house. On the way there was a model home with a banner across it advertising -1500sf, 2 bed, 2 bath, 2 car garage 36,900- . I thought wow, what a deal. Two years later that same house had a banner advertising it for 72,000. Three years later when I returned to Florida for a visit that same home was 124,000. I remember feeling really stupid for not buying, instead I wasted my money on college, in which now I'm not even using my degree. I wonder what that house is priced at now.
IF it ever gets that bad
I believe there are enough good natured and highly intellegent people to restore liberty.
So,how long do we have
before we are living in a van down by the river?Anybody??
I believe it
I talked with my brother yesterday,,He lives in central florida. He ask me how the economy was in Tennessee. He told me it was really bad there,,,He said when you go into a bank you are alone. When he ask about it the teller said its always like that now everone is laidoff, (Remembering how bad the normal economy was when i was there it must really be bad)
Sprinkled across the United States are people.
I've been active in the freedom movement and enjoy "the law of attraction" as the most recent "vibe". I don't see a marauding expanse of people. This national crises will bring humans together. The monsanto model is on it's way out. It's in our nature to farm. We will clean things up. It's in our nature to understand nurturing. The youth are naturally rebellious, and will go directly into the freedom movement, especially if there's no jobs. You know, we can print postage size solar panels on a piece of paper. Hey, take a break from the world of real estate profiteering. Heck, now we can all stop and smell the roses!
This is the thing. We have
This is the thing. We have to stop saying "OMG this is terrible" and start saying, "NO. This is NOT going to happen. The People will not let it happen."
And it will NOT. At least not in our reality, and then we can bring it forth in other's.
That's
That's a good read. Thanks.
This is probably a stupid question, but what
is REO properties? And how long do you think we have before this whole thing collapses into chaos/depression?
REO = Real Estate Owned
Property which is in the possession of a lender as a result of foreclosure or forfeiture.
Thanks for
the heads up. I need more time to prepare this is going to be close. Peace
Bump for...
Iam...
Yours in Liberty,
Shovel