Laurie: How can CFL survive with so many groups in opposition to each other?

But since someone bumped it back active I'll just say this

I think poor little Laurie has realized that her time and work here is done. It is so great to see all of you reject this nonsense. It's great to see that discernment and good judgement can weed out corrupt negative intentions and slap them down like the hind end of a jackass. Heyaw, Heyaw getty up jackass time to move along........just try to break up this movement and inject lies into truth and you'll get just what Laurie got. Rejection, reason, intellect, and honesty.....too bad for you Laurie you screwed up and let your emotions get the best of you...I think its about time you seek some professional help---thankyou for revealing to us that you are not a RP supporter or a member of the C4L or a member of the Revolution-you have showed by you fruits what you really are. We know that just because you put your name to something doesn't mean you mean it or are the real deal---you have taught us that....just by being you

"The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state."Ron

A strong showing there is more important than at any other event we attend.

That city should be inundated with Ron Paul supporters.

My five cents.

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Lisa C.

“Elections are short term efforts; revolutions are long term projects.”

--Ron Paul

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Can we send this one to the dump already? Laurie's just now bumping her post with ad hominem attacks against people who respond to her poster.

As usual, my beliefs as to the profound change for the worse of DP have been completely validated in the replies in this thread alone.

I used to visit DP as a primary source of many informative posts about various aspects of the world around us by highly intelligent people who were part of those functions through their jobs.

Now, based on many recent threads and posts, DP has devolved to a high school level of "MySpace" with flame threads dedicated to individuals and gang attacks by groups of people on the same individuals, and not just me.

In fact, the most recent posts come across as elementary school taunts/language-

Really a class act site, huh?

Are these really the people who will be influencing the future of our country? I certainly hope not!

It was interesting to note that the OK OK thread that triggered this thread of concern of mine has apparently been deleted.

So, I was not the only one concerned about the blatant divisions in that thread.

People brought up my opinions about SGP, when I specifically made no mention of him in my OP. Yet, SGP was one of the very first replies in the thread with the sole purpose of attacking me on one of his "driveby shootings".

Why does it feel like the younger generation has never seen the movie, "Bambi". Wasn't it there that the value was taught, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" was taught?

Did it ever cross a single person's mind to simply ignore the thread vs. posting "pot shots" throughout the day, what I refer to as "gang drive-by shootings"?

I wish to thank everyone 1) for keeping the thread on the Active List all day, 2) for truly validating my concerns in the OP about the extremely strong divisions within the RP supporters, and, most importantly, 3) for showing to all who read your posts, where you simply called me names and failed to address a single concern I expressed, a clear indication of what kind of people you are.

And if your posts are any indication of how you treat people in the "real world", you may very well be likely reasons that RP didn't get more votes.

D'ya think that the attitudes and lack of logical discussion expressed in this thread convinced a *single* person to vote for RP?

I see no indication that the posters in this thread have a clue as to what RP's value system is or the message he hopes to spread.

"Liberty" is not anarchy. I'd settle for the Golden Rule - have your posts treated me as you would wish to be treated?

Have your posts helped or harmed your ability to move up in the Campaign For Liberty organization?

To those of you who have others who know who you are behind the various screen names, would they ever risk giving you a business reference for a job based on the total lack of control that is so apparent in your posts?

And what any of you think about me or my beliefs couldn't be more irrelevant to me, because no one posted a single fact to dispute any of my concerns about the splintered RP supporter groups blatantly attacking each other in public posts that are captured by Google.

Personal attack posts with name-calling never convince anyone of anything, except that the poster is very childish and throwing the equivalent of a temper tantrum. Lots of "stamped feet" today-

The interesting thing is that, just as with Steve Parent, I don't have to convince anyone of anything.

Simply the passage of time will prove my concerns valid or not.

However, I sincerely hope that someone with the authority to address the critical issue of the obvious hostility among the splintered factions has read this thread and the other vicious threads on DP (and RPFs) today.

If so, maybe he or she can attempt to resolve that splintering before it destroys the hard work that so many have volunteered, as well as the large amounts of money that were donated to the Presidential campaign.

"I think that the strength of our movement is that we are barely even able to agree, even among ourselves. The glue that holds us together is the desire for freedom, and to not be herded and oppressed, even though each of our personal views may be widely divergent on many subjects. This utter lack of consensus on almost everything, acts as a "filter" which rejects anything out of our goals that even resembles special interest, and leaves only freedom as the remaining consensus. As such, it is a uniquely "self-cleaning" movement. It's very interesting, and I've never seen anything quite like it. It creates an incredible armor against infection, due to its very nature. However, there is alot of contentiousness that comes along with it, but we seem to be able to survive that because it's individual views and not oppression.
The only thing that can move us is something that will bring us further along on our path for more freedom. There is no "special interest issue" or any other thing which can even begin to move us.

There is only one thing that binds this movement, and that is a direction that allows each and every one of us as individuals, to live in the freedom and peace that we seek for our own lives, without(or with very minimal) government interference.
That's why no other group even understands us, or can co-opt us, and why we have to do it ourselves. There is no outside help, unless we convert it. It's us against oppression."
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

................Exceptional comment don't you think?

After you made it your life's work to destroy SGP, you and your parrot sidekick justjenmi. You guys make me sick.

Go away - far a way you piece of SH*T!

garbage

The only opposition we freedom lovers have is from communists like Laurie and a few others here. Why not just delete your megaphone software and come join the human race and do the right thing.

There are 300 million people in the US. We are doomed if we can't have 3 big Paul supporter events around the country. Choose one you are going to attend, see how easy that was.

You need to get off the computer more. Just because 20 or 30 people on this site are fighting about which event to support, it does not matter.

I just came back from the Texas State Convention where hundreds maybe 1500 Paul supportering delegates came from across the state for a 3 day convention. Hundreds of others showed up in downtown Houston to see him give a speech at 9 pm on a Thursday.

There were 160,000 votes in Pennsylvania alone. If not matter how many show up at either event, it will not hurt us. It will only make a few on this site think that way.

being half full as compared to half empty mentality would go a long way with you.

Hey guess what we aren't asking you to take care of these thousands of extra tasks all by yourself. The people who are going to do it are willing to do it. So quit complaining and start doing something other than complain.

I completely back the March don't get your pantie's in a wad.
But when Ron said it should be relatively soon.. we should have started packin our bags and just showed up.
Laurie, blah blah blah enough already!

Less than two days after asking for 100,000 members in two months Ron Paul's got 50,000 members. There is no division unless you're making one.

You just got to go with it Laurie.

I am not sure if you remember back to the days and weeks after the 5th of November. One night I recall Trevor posting on the Dailypaul things like you are saying, he was really passionate, to the extent of getting banned for the evening. His concern was that Teaparty08 would not succeed due to all the other money bombs that people were planning.

Things will work out, cant be at any events myself till September so I hope to see you at the convention. If anyone has a link to the thread with Trevor, it would be fun to recall that night's events.

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

IN HISTORY HAS THERE EVER BEEN A DELEGATE REVOLT?? where the delegates voted for someone other than who tthey were supposed to??

Question: Aren't the current posts in that thread totally against RP's stated wishes/goals for the future?

You know what Laurie, Its good to ask questions, I am a big fan of questions, the nature of your questions are alarming and yet nothing. If you are a Revolutionary and your concerned about your country then you must realize that this is in it's infancy and some of the answers are forthcoming thru the mere conduit of history-time will tell.

Perhaps the best questions-- and you could start by asking yourself--

What have I done today that has contributed to change?
What must I do to understand the commitment it will take to change?
How willing am I to accept the things I see happening in this country to myself, my family, my community, my world?
If I find I dont like what I see, what am I willing to do to change it?

Simply asking questions without a willingness to answer them makes you suspect and quite frankly I am all out of questions and answers for you.

The events were scheduled as a result of a NATION'S cry to put forth a show of support for the message of Liberty-that is our purpose and that is our mission--

That they coincide with a flawed economy every individual will have to decide if it will affect them and their decisions to participate. If they choose to show up at any of them and give their show of support and voice their opposition to the crush felt by pressure from our Gov't then that is good enough. Three Nationwide events for Liberty-What more could you ask for!!

"The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state."Ron

dropped out had something to do with his campaign money (he had too) in order to continue to keep and organize this foundation. Dr. Paul didn't organize all these rallies grassroots did, he just agreed to come (it is good the rallies are spread out around the country, go to the one closer to you). There are always people who will disagree about something and we should just realize that this campaign and others are normal.

Why you ask do people volunteer for so long and so hard for little thanks because they realize what is at stake. They realize THEIR freedom and prosperity is at stake as well as their children and grandchildren. They are fully awake and see a bleak future so they work and organize and fund like there is no tomorrow, bless these people. May we all step forward and help them. There will be no pat on the back no rewards other than knowing that when tomorrow comes they gave all that they had. Your other questions are about the future as we can not predict it is better to work on the now. If we want a positive future we need to work on the now, spread the message that Dr. Paul has not gone away or his message of Peace, Prosperity and Freedom. Invite people to learn more at his site and other sites that we have just begun to fight. Peace

it will survive for the same reason Ron Pauls campaign lasted so long! freedom brings people together! very simple....now go back to being the big government brownshirt nazi republican you are!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Laurie, this entire post is outrageous. A true Ron Paul supporter tries to strengthen the revolution by fostering camaraderie, high spirits, high morale among fellow patriots.
He doesn't sow seeds of dissent with vague generalized criticisms and innuendo.
The CFL is doing just fine. If Ron Paul was surprised at the response he's gotten over the last 17 months, then I'd say he's going to be totally blown away by the growth of the CFL in the next few weeks!