Vaccinations are evil and Ron Paul HAS spoken out against them
Posted June 15th, 2008 by America Loves R...
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Are there any Ron Paul-supporters out there who STILL believe in the myth of vaccination?
And if some of you ask, "what does this have to do with Ron Paul?"
Take a look:
Ron Paul - "Government Vaccines – Bad Policy, Bad Medicine"
I realize some of you are going to react to this info with either disbelief or ridicule (cognitive dissonance) - but look how much Ron Paul has opened your eyes to various other issues of which you didn't believe beforehand.
Vaccination is one of the MAIN key-issues to expose and overturn the enemies of this nation.
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Again I must object....
To the misleading title of this thread.
Ron Paul did NOT speak out against vaccinations IN GENERAL and certainly did NOT label them as "evil".
I would like to suggest that instead of resurrecting this same thread with the same misleading title, people who would like to post more comments about the evils of vaccination start a new thread each time.
Or would it be too hard to find a valid excuse for posting this on a "Ron Paul" website, considering that the linked article in the original post says nothing that would validate, support, or even agree with 99% of the comments in this thread?
I have no problem with your expressing your opinions, and you might even be 100% correct in most of your assertions. But I still object to the inference that DR. RON PAUL agrees with most of the opinions expressed in this thread.
As a fellow physician and a great admirer of Dr.Paul, I do not think that you should be using HIS credibility and reputation to validate your own (or any other physician's) very controversial opinions.
No amount of disclaimer or explanation buried in the depths of this thread can make up for the damage done by the title and original post.
Please have the decency to let THIS thread die, or at least edit the title and original post to remove the false implications.
Thanks.
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NJ: mandated vaccines planned for home schooled children
BE IT ENACTED by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:
1. Prior to the establishment of a home education program and annually thereafter, on or before August 1, a parent or guardian shall submit to the superintendent of the resident school district a notarized letter registering his child in a home education program. The letter shall include:
a. the name and age of each student participating in the home education program;
b. the name of the supervisor of the home education program responsible for the provision of instruction;
c. the address and telephone number of the home education program site;
d. evidence that such subjects as required by law will be offered, including an outline of proposed education objectives by subject area;
e. evidence that each student being registered has been immunized in accordance with the provisions of the State Sanitary Code adopted pursuant to section 7 of P.L.1947, c.177 (C.26:1A-7) and that the student has received the health and medical services required by State law for students of the child’s age; and
f. a certification to be signed by the supervisor that the supervisor, all adults living in the home, and persons having legal custody of a child in a home education program have not been convicted of the criminal offenses enumerated in section 1 of P.L.1986, c.116 (C.18A:6-7.1) within the preceding five years. <<
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http://www.njleg.state.nj...
ASSEMBLY, No. 3123
Dr Carley recently had as guest.........
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......Homopath Kate Birch.
It was an incredible 2 hours of her discussing Vaccinosis.
Audio archive can be found here:
(was Wed Sept, 17th)
http://www.republicbroadc...
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I believe that's "Homeopath" :)
And Vaccinosis is real--I saw it in a greyhound I owned--6 years of rabies vaccine injected in 3 months.
Damn Katrina shelter...
So did I..
two working (sheep herding) Border Collies ruined. Now one is a pet and the other is completely neurotic (and can't learn anything new - she only remembers what she was taught before the vaccinosis).
My german shepherd turns 10 today!
and hasn't had a shot in at least 9 years.
hasn't had much "dog food" either.
;-)
.."Pentagon's Avian Flu Biowar Vaccine"
"There is reason to believe that sections of the international pharmaceutical industry cartel are acting in concert with the US Government to develop a genetically modified H5N1 virus substance that could unleash a man-made pandemic, perhaps more deadly than the 1918 ‘Spanish Influenza’ pandemic claiming up to 30 million lives.1" http://www.globalresearch...
I work in a wellness environment and last year there were several new cases of Shingles...every single person afflicted had recently gotten the Flu shot. In my state, the Flu shot campaign has started and it will be available Oct. 1....PLEASE EVERYONE...please DO NOT GET THE FLU SHOT. Read the above article, try to educate every person that you can reach. Do some research on homeopathic remedies for flu...there are several. If you have never known a person afflicted with Shingles, let me tell you...it is a horribly painful condition.
Laura
Jenny McCarthy on Oprah 24 September, whistleblowing on vaccines
Send this to all the pregnant women, new moms, would be moms. DO DUE DILIGENCE WHEN IT COMES TO VACCINATING YOUR CHILDREN!
JENNY MCCARTHY (JIM CAREY'S PARTNER) is blowing out all stops and whistleblowing on the vaccines.
Jenny McCarthy will be on Oprah on Wednesday Sept 24. She has a new book
coming out called "Warrior Moms." These are average everyday moms who
have recovered or dramatically improved their kids from autism just like
I did. Their stories are even more compelling then mine, and their kids
were more severe than Robbie and Eric and they have recovered or at
least improved. Bring your tissues.
With the new rule that the HPV vaccine.. Gardasil,
will be mandatory for all new immigrants, the total of mandated vaccines (fancy if the new immigrants are going to breed) for new entrants is now 5.
Which are the other 4 already mandated vaccines? Anyone know?
Why would anyone want to
Why would anyone want to come here anymore?
This is still misleading.
I hesitate to comment again, but this thread will not be allowed to die, so I must again object to the misleading title to the original post.
It should read "Government Mandated Vaccinations are evil and Ron Paul HAS spoken out against them."
I do not believe this is a quibble and anyone who actually read the linked article would know exactly why I consider the current title to be a misrepresentation of Ron Paul's position.
As to to the reply below; I think it is a wonderful if somewhat verbose explanation of the "Anti-vaccination Party" platform.
And as I have also said before, I believe 100% in a person's right to make the decisions for their own health care and for their children.. even bad or potentially fatal ones....
AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
Unfortunately, the American civil liability/ malpractice court system does not allow parents to absolve healthcare providers from mistakes arising out of situations that would not have occurred except for the decisions made by their parents.
For example, in the section about tetanus it states:
Yes, the incidence is low, especially in countries where the vaccination rate is high. And there is even evidence that the rate of FATAL tetanus cases are much lower in someone who has EVER received the tetanus vaccine (compared to someone who has NEVER been vaccinated) even if they don't receive the recommended periodic boosters or prophylactic boosters after an injury.
Regardless, no mention is made of:
1) the potential side effects of the antitoxin.
2) the critical time window within which the immunoglobulin (antitoxin) must be given.
3) the higher failure rate for passive immunization versus the active immunity provided by vaccination.
4) the much higher risk of developing serious allergic reactions (Including fatal anaphylaxis, etc.) from using an antitoxin derived from horse serum.
And if some adverse event occurred as the direct result of a parent's refusal to vaccinate, is that parent willing to waive his rights to sue the doctor(s) involved? Ironically, in today's litigious society, a child who is injured through (supposed) malpractice has a right to sue once they turn eighteen years old EVEN IF THEIR PARENTS HAD DECIDED NOT TO SUE and regardless of how many years have passed since the incident.
(There is a statute of limitation for rapists but apparently not for doctors.)
This is just one small example of the problems involved in trying to make critical healthcare decisions for our children and why a "one size fits all" disclaimer like this does not do the issue justice.
It also shows why an informed consent (or refusal) of healthcare is only as good as the intentions and the integrity of the patient. The lawyers would have a field day with a doctor who went against standard medical practice based on a form like this.
I know that the original poster has great contempt for modern American healthcare and most physicians (myself included), but I would still argue that these kinds of decisions should be made in consultation with a trusted physician; not based on the advise of strangers over the Internet (no matter how well-intentioned) who will not have to suffer the consequences of their own poor advice.
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Uh, no it isn't.
"Mandated" is part of the problem, but the other problem is the chemcials in the shots.
The principle of indyucing dead bacteria or virus into the immune system to stimualte antibody production for that bug is a simple concept.
BUT the live bug in with the dead is a problem, as is the toxic metals and preservatives in the serums that are the real problem.
The live bug can cause illness and even death. That's preventable with proper lab techniques. Yet it still happens, primarily from carelessness in pursuit of profit.
It's the toxic heavy metals and chemical preservatives that cause autistic disorders and brain damage.
It's not just mercury, either. Chromium, aluminum, tin, lead, formaldehyde are huge problems, and they're the more well-known stuff.
There's even speculation now, and it makes sense if you think about it, that the aluminum in certain products gets in the brain and causes Alzheimer's, which shares the same symptoms as geriatric autism--neural receptor blockages and damage (unlike MJ which just blocks).
Aluminum is found in some vaccines that cause autistic spectrum disorders.
No vaccines are needed to build a good immune system--just plain old researched healthy eating and good hygiene.
Tannim...you sound like you are in Dr. Carley's corner.
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Have you ever read her paper, "Inoculations: True Weapons of Mass Destruction"?
It can be found at: http://www.drcarley.com/
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
They are placing contraceptives in diptheria and tetanus vaccine
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Yes, folks.
Here's proof that you all are being used as a guinea pig.
From: MRC Reproductive Biology Unit, University of Edinburgh Edinburgh, UK
Contraceptive vaccines
And I'm sure I've posted numerous news accounts of how, in various third-world nations, women are being sterilized by the eugenists' needles.
And regarding tatanus, again, I must post the following link to refute the fear-mongering:
Tetanus Index
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Your word 'mandated' made me think a little more
on this. There must be a reason for not to make these evil jabs all mandated. I might be totally on the wrong track of course but if and when mandated they would also be totally responsible for all the side effects, and they would be sued non stop, right up to high heaven.
As it stands now, many manufacturers have been exempted, and their responsibilities for negative effects of them have been waved.. in other words, they have government approval to sell/jab/maim but don't have the risks of lawsuits etc.
Looks like the almighty dollar combined with the planned depopulation wins out.
(pls keep in mind the above is my own thinking on the issue!). By making vaccines mandatory they also assume ownership of your body..
Refusal of Recommended vaccines
you should probably print this out and keep it .......I am not sure how long this URL will stay active
http://www.geocities.com/...
REFUSAL OF RECOMMENDED VACCINES
Patient Name_______________________________
Birthdate_______________
As the parent/guardian of __________________________,
I have investigated the risks and benefits of the following
vaccines and diseases. I am aware that there are documented
cases of people contracting diseases for which they are
clinically fully immunized and that the manufacturers of the
vaccines do not guarantee 100% efficacy. I am also aware
that VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System)
documented cases of over 54,000 adverse reactions from
vaccines in a 20-month period. The National Vaccine Injury
Fund, created in 1986 to compensate those damaged by
vaccines has paid out over one billion dollars in compensation
to date.
POLIO: I have been informed of the risk of my child
developing paralytic disease and meningitis associated
with poliomyelitis. I understand that even under epidemic
conditions, natural polio produces no symptoms in over 90%
of those exposed to it.
[those who get enough vitamin B don't get polio]
(1) I understand that there have been no cases of wild polio
in the US in the last 20 years and that those cases which have
been documented have been caused by the vaccine.
(2) I understand the following side effects for the vaccine are
possible: Killed virus polio: temperature of *102 in up to
38%, sleepiness, fussiness, crying, decreased appetite, vomiting,
Guillain-Barr* Syndrome and allergic reaction in those allergic
to neomycin, polymyxin B and streptomycin. Precautions
include those who have had a previous negative reaction,
pregnant women, and possibly those with HIV/AIDS or
otherwise compromised immune systems.
Live virus polio: Reactions include contraction of polio by
those who have received the virus and by those who have come
into contact with body fluids and wastes of the immunized
person. Paralytic symptoms may follow contraction of polio.
Live virus is reportedly shed for up to 8 weeks after the
inoculation. Guillain-Barr* Syndrome has also been noted.
Not recommended for use in households where someone has
a compromised immune system, for pregnant women, or where
a previous reaction has been reported.
(3) Killed virus Ipol¨ is grown on monkey kidney cells,
contains formaldehyde, and triple antibiotics. Poliovax¨ is
grown on cells from an aborted baby, contains formaldehyde,
cow serum and triple antibiotic solution.
(4) The monkey kidney cells used in the original killed polio
vaccine contains SIV-40 and has been found in tumor cells of
children whose parent's were vaccinated against polio using the
contaminated virus.
(5) The live vaccine is grown on monkey kidney cells,
antibiotics and calf serum. HEMOPHILUS INFLUENZAE B:
I have been informed of the risk of my child developing
meningitis (although this vaccine will not protect the child from
meningitis from all other forms such as pneumococcus, and
meningococcus, viruses, and fungi), pneumonia, and infections
of the blood, joints, bone, and soft tissue associated with
Hemophilus Influenzae B. I understand that this disease is
most likely in children up to 15 months of age and is fatal in
3-6% of children who contract it. Incidence of this disease
today is low and the vaccine has not proven to be highly
effective in 41% of cases, according to some studies.
(6) Treatment is available.
The vaccine is often combined with the DPT which has the
highest reaction rate of any vaccine available today. Reactions
include: contracting HIB, localized pain, erythema and
induration, fever >100.6¡, irritability, lethargy, anorexia,
rhinorrhea, diarrhea, vomiting, cough, when administered alone.
Reactions occurred in up to 30% of patients. When
administered in conjunction with the DPT, reactions include
local tenderness erythema and induration, fever >100.8¡,
irritability, drowsiness, anorexia, diarrhea, vomiting, persistent
crying, seizures, urticaria, hives, renal failure, Guillain-Barr*
Syndrome and death. Reactions occurred in up to 77.9% of
patients.
(7) The vaccine contains yeast, thimerosal (mercury derivative),
and diphtheria toxoid when given alone.
(8) PERTUSSIS: I have been informed of the risk of my
child developing whooping cough, pneumonia, convulsions,
inflammation of the brain, and death associated with pertussis.
I understand the disease is rarely fatal, with a 99.8% recovery
rate. It is most serious and life-threatening in children under 6
months old, but there are adequate methods of treatment
available.
(9) The vaccine is most often given in conjunction with
diphtheria and tetanus as the DPT or as the DaPT. Pertussis
vaccine may cause: fevers >106, pain swelling, diarrhea,
projectile vomiting, excessive sleepiness, high--pitched
screaming, inconsolable crying bouts, seizures, convulsions,
collapse, shock, breathing problems, brain damage and SIDS.
One in 600 suffer a severe reaction in one study
(10) and 1 in 875 suffered shock-collapse and convulsions.
(11) Those in the 2nd study were only tracked for the first 48
hours following immunization. A more recent study indicates
that 1 in 100 react with convulsions, collapse, or high-pitched
screaming and 1 in 3 of those cases sustained permanent brain
damage.
(12) In a study of 103 children who died of SIDS, 70% died
within 3 weeks of the DPT vaccine and 37% of those died
within the first week.
(13) The DaPT is recommended as a safer option for
vaccination. Side effects of the DaPT were only tracked for
72 hours and included: tenderness, erythema, induration, fever
>102.2¡, drowsiness, fretfulness, vomiting, upper respiratory
infection, diarrhea, rash, febrile seizures, persistent or unusual
crying, lethargy, hypronic-hyporesponsive episode, urticaria,
anaphylactic shock, convulsions, encephalopathy, mono- and
polyneuropathies and death.
(14) Not recommended for children under 15 months or for
those who have not had 3 injections of the DPT. Either form
of the vaccine contains thimerosal (mercury derivative),
formaldehyde, and aluminum phosphate.
(15) DIPHTHERIA: I have been informed of the risk of my
child developing paralysis, heart failure, or respiratory failure
associated with diphtheria. I have also been informed that there
have only been 5 cases reported annually since 1980.
(16) I am also aware that diphtheria is rarely fatal and treated
with antibiotics and bed rest.
(17) The Diphtheria component is most often given within the
DPT or DaPT and includes the same side effects and reactions
as those listed for pertussis. TETANUS: I have been informed
of the risk of my child developing fatal neuromuscular disease
related to tetanus. I understand that the incidence of tetanus is
low, and there is an antitoxin, should we decline the immunization.
I understand that contracting tetanus does not provide life-long
immunity, and neither does the vaccine. I understand that to
prevent more severe reactions from the vaccine, the tetanus
component has been so significantly "diluted" that it is clinically
ineffective.
(18) I understand that the death rate for properly treated cases
of tetanus may be as high as 20%.
(19) Side effects of the tetanus vaccine alone include: high
fever, pain, recurrent abscess formation, inner ear nerve damage,
demyelinating neuropathy, anaphylactic shock and loss of
consciousness.
(20) Tetanus given in the DPT or DaPT shot include the
same side effects and reactions as those listed for pertussis.
RUBEOLA (MEASLES): I have been informed of the risk of
my child developing pneumonia, encephalitis (inflammation
of the brain), degenerative disease of the nervous system with
convulsions (subacute sclerosing panencephalitis) related to
rubeola. I understand the death rate for measles is .03 in
100,000.
(21) I understand that since 1984, over 55% of documented,
confirmed cases of measles have been in fully immunized
persons.
(22) I understand that the greatest risk of the measles vaccine
may be to push the incidence of this disease into the late teens
and adulthood where it is more likely to be fatal or cause more
adverse and long-term effects.
(23) The measles vaccine is a live vaccine, and carries the risk
that it will cause the patient to contract measles. Other adverse
reactions include: stinging or burning at the injection site,
anaphylaxis, fever up to one month following injection, rash,
cough, rhinitis, erythema multiforme, lymphadenopathy,
urticaria, diarrhea, febrile convulsions, seizures, thrombocytopenia,
purpura, vasculitis, optic neuritis, retrobulbar neuritis, papillitis,
retinitis, encephalitis and encephalopathy, ocular palsies, Guillain-
Barr* Syndrome, ataxia, and subacute sclerosing panencephalitis.
(24) Measles vaccine is most often given as a part of the MMR
which includes the following side effects: burning or stinging
at injection site, malaise, sore throat, cough, rhinitis, headache,
dizziness, fever, rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, erythema,
induration, tenderness, lymphadenopathy, parotitius, orchitis,
nerve deafness, thrombocytopenia, purpura, allergic reactions,
urticaria, polyneuritis, arthralgia, arthritis, anaphylaxis, vasculitis,
otitis media, conjunctivitis, febrile convulsions, seizures, syncope,
erythema multiforme, optic neuritis, retrobulbar neuritis, papillitis,
retinitis, encephalitis and encephalopathy, ocular palsies, Guillain-
Barr* Syndrome, ataxia, subacute sclerosing panencephalitis,
(25) and a recent study from Europe indicates that there may be
a link between the MMR (measles/mumps/rubella) vaccine and
autism and irritable bowel syndrome.
(26) Measles vaccine contains chick embryo cells, neomycin,
sorbitol and hydrolyzed gelatin. MMR contains all live
vaccines, chick embryo, cells from aborted babies, neomycin,
sorbitol and hydrolyzed gelatin.
(27) MUMPS: I have been informed of the risk of my child
developing inflammation of the testicles, joints, kidneys, and/or
thyroid, and hearing impairment related to mumps. I understand
that mumps is rarely harmful in childhood, and that most of the
above risks occur when mumps is contracted in adolescence or
adulthood.
(28) I understand that there is a Mumps vaccine which poses
the following risks: contraction of mumps from the live vaccine,
burning or stinging at the injection site, anaphylaxis, cough,
rhinitis, fever, diarrhea, vasculitis, parotitis, orchitis, purpura,
urticaria, erythema multiforme, optic neuritis, retrobulbar
neuritis, syncope, encephalitis, febrile seizures, and nerve
deafness.
(29) Mumps is usually given in the MMR and may cause
those side effects and adverse reactions as noted in the measles
section above. Mumps vaccine is live and should not be given
to pregnant women. It is cultured in chick embryos and
contains sorbitol and hydrolyzed gelatin.
(30) RUBELLA (GERMAN MEASLES): I have been
informed of the risk of my child developing inflammation of
the brain or joints, and of the risk of birth defects (including
eye defects, heart defects, deafness, mental retardation, growth
failure, jaundice, and disorders of blood clotting) in infants
born to mothers who contract rubella during pregnancy, related
to rubella. Therefore, I understand that the greatest risk to my
child may be if she never contracts rubella as a child, but when
she is pregnant and it damages her unborn child. If she contract
rubella in childhood, she is immune for life, and prior to the
vaccine 85% of the population was immune.
(31) I understand that if she is not immune as an adult, she
can choose to take the vaccine prior to becoming pregnant. I
understand that many of those who contract rubella have been
immunized (up to 80%).
(32) Adverse reactions from the vaccine among teenage girls
is 5-10% and 30% in adult women.(33) Adverse reactions
include: contracting rubella from the live virus in the vaccine,
burning or stinging at the site, lymphadenopathy, urticaria,
rash, malaise, sore throat, fever, headache, dizziness, nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea, polyneuritis, arthralgia, arthritis, local
pain and inflammation, erythema multiforme, cough, rhinitis,
vasculitis, anaphylaxis, syncope, optic neuritis, retrobulbar
neuritis, papillitis, Guillain-Barr* Syndrome, encephalitis,
thrombocytopenia, purpura, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
(34) Rubella is most often administered in the MMR and may
cause those side effects and adverse reactions listed under
measles. Rubella is cultured on the tissue of an aborted child.
This child was the 27th child aborted and tested by researchers
due to exposure to rubella in a pregnant woman. It contains
neomycin, sorbitol and hydrolyzed gelatin.
(35) HEPATITIS B: I have been informed of the risk of my
child developing Hepatitis B viral infection which can cause
chronic inflammation of the liver leading to cirrhosis, liver
cancer, and possibly death. I understand that my child's risk of
developing Hepatitis B is low if I am not a carrier or infected, if
my child does not engage in promiscuous sex or use drugs. I
understand that there is antibiotic treatment for HepB and that
most of those who contract it recover.
(36) I understand that the HepB vaccine only contains strains
of HepB and is not effective against HepA, C, D, E, F, or G.
I understand that the HepB vaccine has the following side
effect and adverse reactions: induration, erythema, swelling,
fever, headache, dizziness, pain, prutitus, ecchymosis, sweating,
malaise, chills, weakness, flushing, tingling, hypotension,
flu-like symptoms, upper respiratory illness, nausea, anorexia,
abdominal pain and cramping, vomiting, constipation, diarrhea,
lymphadenopathy, pain or stiffness in muscles and joints,
arthralgia, myalgia, back pain, rash, urticaria, petechiae,
sleepiness, insomnia, irritability, agitation, anaphylaxis,
angioedema, arthritis, tachycardia/palpitations, bronchospasm,
abnormal liver function tests, dyspepsia, migraine, syncope,
paresis neuropathy, hypothesis, paresthesis, Guillain-Barr*
Syndrome, Bell's Palsy, transverse myelitis, optic neuritis,
multiple sclerosis, thrombocytopenia, eczema, purpura, herpes
zoster, erythema modosum, alopecia, conjunctivitis, keratisis,
visual disturbances, vertigo, tinnitus, earache, and dysuria.
(37) The studies only followed patients for 4 days
post-vaccination. The most commonly used HepB vaccine
contains thimerosal, although a relatively new release does
not contain thimerosal. The vaccine also contains: aluminum
hydroxide, yeast protein, and phosphate buffers.
(38) VARICELLA (CHICKENPOX): I have been informed
of the risk of my child developing chicken pox which could
potentially result in pneumonia, secondary skin or generalized
infections, or, if caught during pregnancy, birth defects in the
baby. I understand chicken pox is generally benign in children,
but results in significant lost hours at work for parents. Chicken
pox in adults often manifests as shingles, a chronic and painful
condition. I also understand that contracting chicken pox later in
life may increase my risk for herpes simplex.
Side effects and adverse reactions for the chicken pox vaccine
include: contracting chicken pox from the live vaccine (27%),
pain and redness at site, swelling, erythema, rash, pruritus,
hematoma, induration, stiffness, upper respiratory illness,
cough, irritability/nervousness, fatigue, disturbed sleep,
diarrhea, loss of appetite, vomiting, otitis, diaper rash/contact
rash, nausea, eye complaints, chills, lymphadenopathy, myalgia,
lower respiratory illness, headache, teething, malaise, abdominal
pain, other rash, allergic reactions including rash and hives, stiff
neck, heat rash/prickly heat, arthralgia, eczema/dry
skin/dermatitis, constipation, itching, pneunonitis, febrile
seizures, and cold/canker sore.
(39) Varicella vaccine is cultured on cells from aborted babies,
and guinea pig cell cultures. It contains live virus, monisodium
glutamate (msg), sucrose, phosphate, processed gelatin,
neomycin and fetal calf serum.
(40) HEPATITIS A (HAV): I have been informed of the risk
of my child developing HAV which could potentially result in
prolonged or relapsed hepatitis, but will not result in chronic
hepatitis disease.
(41) HAV usually causes mild "flu-like" illness, jaundice,
severe stomach pains and diarrhea; and, in rare cases may
result in death. Infection confers lifelong immunity.
(42) I understand that the CDC admits that good personal
hygiene (handwashing) and proper santitation can prevent
HAV.
(43) HAV infection is spread by contaminated water or
food, infected food handlers, unsanitary conditions following
natural disasters, ingestion of raw or undercooked shellfish,
institutionalized individuals, children not yet toilet trained,
blood transfusions or sharing needles with infected people.
Transmission is most likely in developing countries where
sanitation is poor and infection rate of children under 5 is 90%.
Fatality rate is less than .6% overall, and 70% of those in
patients over 49 years, many of whom have underlying liver
disease.
(44) Other at-risk populations include those living on American
Indian reservations and in Alaskan Native villages, homosexually
active men, IV drug users, people using clotting factor
concentrates and international travelers.
(45) Side effects and adverse reactions from the vaccine
include: injection-site soreness, headache, fever, malaise,
induration, redness, swelling, fatigue, anorexia, nausea, pruritis,
rash, utricaria, pharyngitis, upper respiratory tract infections,
abdominal pain, diarrhea, dysgeusia, vomiting, arthralgia,
elevated cratine phosphokinase, myalgia, lymphadenopathy,
hypertonic episodes, insomnia, photophobia, and vertigo.
(46) Aborted fetal tissue is an ingredient in the Havrix¨ Hep A
vaccine, as is formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide and
2-phenozyethanol.
(47) There is currently a combination Hep A and B vaccine,
Twinrix¨, being tested in the UK.
(48) Twinrix is grown in human cell cultures, contains
2-phenoxyethanol, neomycin sulfate, polysorbate, tromentamol
and formaldehyde.
(49) PNEUMOCOCCAL: I have been informed of the risk of
my child developing pneumococcal disease which could result
in meningitis, blood infection, pneumonia and/or ear infections.
Iunderstand studies indicate that this vaccine may only decrease
ear infections by 9%, and only result in a 20% reduction in
chronic ear infections and ear tube insertion in that group. I
understand that my child has a 7.5:5,000 chance of deveoping
this disease if he or she is under age 2 and a 1:5000 chance of
developing it if over age 2. Risk factors for developing this
disease are: immunoglobulin deficiency, nephrotic syndrome,
Hodgkin's disease, congenital or acquired immunodeficiency,
some upper respiratory infections, splenic dysfunctions,
splenectomy or organ transplant. This vaccine (PCV) was
originally marketed for immunocompromised children.
(50) This vaccine is contraindicated to children with
thrombocytopenia, coagualtion disorders, or sensitivity to
diphtheria toxoid.
(51) Possible side effects and complications from the vaccine
include: erythema, induration, tenderness, interference of limb
movement, inflamation, fever, irritability, drowsiness, restless
sleep, decreased appetite, vomiting, diarrhea, fussiness, rash,
hives, bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, otitis media (ear
infection), sepsis, seizure, anaphylaxis and death.
(52) Recipients were followed for 3 days and almost 10%
of the subjects made a visit to the emergency room in the
follow-up period. There were 8 cases of SIDS in the 17,066
subjects involved in the trial.
(53) Note: Children in the studies' control group received
another experimental vaccine, so there have been no trial
studies done with children who received no vaccine.
(54) Prevnar contains .125 mg of aluminum sulfate, protein
polysaccharides from 7 strains of strep. pneumoniae bacteria,
diphtheria toxin, casamino acids, yeast extract. Studies indicate
that it may interfere with the safety and efficacy of other
vaccines.
~~~~~~~*::<<¤Ø>>::*~~~~~~~
Complied by Kathryn E. Rateliff, CCD, CCCE, SM October,
1999 and revised January, 2001 Questions and comments can
be addressed to her at: titus2@quixnet.net.
Want to know more about the issue of vaccine choice?
Titus 2 Birthing has a 42-page packet to help parents look at
some of the issues regarding vaccine choice. This packet
includes the above form plus many other helpful documents.
Topics include: vaccine safety, disease frequency in the US,
exemption information and worksheet, religious concerns about
vaccines, immunization registry information, vaccinations and
premature babies, vaccines and immune supression, the American
Association of Physicians and Surgeons policy on mandatory
vaccines, additional resources, and Jock Doubleday's challenge
for immunization providers to drink a vaccine additive cocktail.
If you are interested in getting a copy of this packet, contact
Kathy at and she will be glad give you
all of the details. Note that there is a cost for this packet.
~~~~~~~*::<<¤Ø>>::*~~~~~~~
(55) Reference List 1. M. Burnet and D. White, The Natural
History of Infectious Disease (Cambridge, 1972), p. 16. 2.
Strebel, et al, "Epidemology in the U.S. One Decade After the
Last Reported Case of Indigenous Wild Virus Associated
Disease," Clinical Infectious Diseases, (Center for Disease
Control, February 1992), pp. 568-79. 3. Physician's Desk
Reference (PDR), 50th Edition; Medical Economics, 1996, p.
1388-1390. 4. Ibid, p. 885-886 and 891-892. 5. J. Butel, et al;
"Molecular Evidence of Simian Virus 40 Infections in
Children", The Journal of Infectious Diseases ; September
1999;180:884-887. 6. PDR, 50th Edition, p. 872-875. 7. Ibid.
8. Ibid. 9. Richard Moskowitz, M.D., "Immunizations: The
Other Side," Mothering, (Spring1984),p. 34. 10. Immunization:
Survey of Recent Research, (United States Department of
Health and Human Services, April 1983), p. 76. 11. "Nature
and Rates of Adverse Reactions Associated with DPT and DT
Immunizations...," Pediatrics, Volume 68, No. 5 (November
1981). 12. Walene James, Immunization the Reality Behind the
Myth, (South Hadley, Massachusetts: Bergin & Garvey, 1988),
p. 14. 13. W.C. Torch, "Diptheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT)
immunization: A potential cause of sudden infant death
syndrome (SIDS)," (Amer. Academy of Neurology, 34th
Annual Meeting, Apr 25 - May 1, 1982), Neurology 32(4), pt.
2. 14. PDR, p. 875-879 and 892-895. 15. Ibid. 16. Robert
Mendelsohn, M.D., How to Raise A Healthy Child...In Spite of
your Doctor (Chicago: Contemporary Books, 1984), p.223. 17.
Ibid. 244-246 18. Isaac Golden, Ph.D., Vaccination? A Review
of Risks and Alternatives, (Geelong, Victoria, Australia: Arum
Healing Centre, 1991), p. 31 19. Richard Moskowitz, M.D.,
"Immunizations: The Other Side," Mothering, (Spring1984),p.
34. 20. Isaac Golden, Ph.D., Vaccination? A Review of Risks
and Alternatives; p. 71 21. R. Mendoholson; How to Raise a
Healthy Child; p. 217. 22. John Frank Jr., M.D., et al.
"Measles Elimination - Final Impediments," 20th Immunization
Conference Proceedings, May 6-9, 1985, p. 21. 23. Infectious
Diseases (January 1982), p. 21. 24. PDR, p. 1610-1611. 25.
DR, p. 1687-1689. 26. Sara Solovitch, "Do vaccines spur
autism in kids?", San Jose Mercury News, 5/25/99. 27. PDR,
p. 1687-89, 1610-1611. 28. Richard Moskowitz, M.D.,
"Immunizations: The Other Side," Mothering, (Spring1984),p.
35. 29. PDR, 1708-1709. 30. Ibid. 31. R. Mendoholson; How
to Raise a Healthy Child; p. 218. 32. Dr. Beverley Allan,
Australian Nurses Journal, (May 1978). 33. Hannah Allen,
Don't Get Stuck: The Case Against Vaccinations..., (Oldsmar,
FL: Natural Hygiene Press, 1985), p. 144. 34. DR, p.
1697-1699. 35. Ibid and Attenuation Of RA 27/3 Rubella
Virus in WI-38 Human Diploid Cells; Amer J Dis Child vol
118 Aug 1969 and Studies of Immunization With Living
Rubella Virus ; Arch J Dis Child vol 110 Oct 1965. 36. John
Hanchette, "Safety of controversial hepatitis B vaccine at center
of debate" Gannett News Service, 5/18/99. 37. PDR, p.
1744-1747, 2482-2484. 38. Ibid. 39. PDR, p. 1762-1765. 40.
Ibid. 41. CDC Viral Hepatitis A - Fact Sheet, 9/29/00;
www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseas... 42. CDC
Hepatitis A Vaccine Vaccine Information Statement; 8/25/98
43. CDC Hepatitis A Facts, 11/16/00 44. Mosby's GenRX¨,
10th Ed., Hepatitis A Vaccine (003158) as posted on
MDConsult website 45. CDC Hepatitis A Vaccine Vaccine
Information Statement; 8/25/98 and CDC Hepatitis A Vaccine
Vaccine Information Statement; 8/25/98 46. Mosby's
GenRX@, Hepatitis A Vaccine 47. Ibid. 48. "Combined
hepatitis A/B vaccine offers fast protection," Reuters Health,
4/12/00 49. Vaccines and Their Ingredients, 6/24/99;
www.909shot.com 50. Michael Horwin, MA; "Prevnar: A
Critical Review of a New Childhood Vaccine" 9/19/00. 51.
Prevnar package insert, Wyeth Lederle, 2/17/00 52. Ibid. 53.
Horwin; "Prevnar: A Critical Review" 54. Dr. Erdem Cantekin,
Ph.D.; "Pneumocaoccal Vaccine and Otitis Media", NVIC's
2nd Intl. Public Conference, 9/8/00. 55. Horwin; "Prevnar: A
Critical Review"
Complied by Kathryn E. Rateliff, CCD, CCCE, SM October,
1999 and revised January, 2001 Questions and comments can
be addressed to her at: titus2@quixnet.net.
Want to know more about the issue of vaccine choice?
Titus 2 Birthing has a 42-page packet to help parents look at
some of the issues regarding vaccine choice. This packet
includes the above form plus many other helpful documents.
Topics include: vaccine safety, disease frequency in the US,
exemption information and worksheet, religious concerns about
vaccines, immunization registry information, vaccinations and
premature babies, vaccines and immune supression, the American
Association of Physicians and Surgeons policy on mandatory
vaccines, additional resources, and Jock Doubleday's challenge
for immunization providers to drink a vaccine additive cocktail.
If you are interested in getting a copy of this packet, contact
Kathy at and she will be glad give you
all of the details. Note that there is a cost for this packet.
Thanks for that info
.
.
Patrick
Polk County, Florida
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul
My wife took my daughter to
My wife took my daughter to the doctor because school wanted a physical (private school in San Ramon, CA) doctor said "everything looks great, we just need to catch her up on her vaccinations, chicken pox, measles, mumps, rubella" My wife said "no thanks, we dont do vaccines" the doctor said "are you crazy? what, are you one of those Jenny McCarthy followers? I think you should leave and not come back"
Took my kids to their Dr. a
Took my kids to their Dr. a few months back. I wanted attention for their bowel problems which an accompanying condition to their autism diagnosis. No help was forthcoming about the bowel problems but the Dr. said "now that we've talked about those issues, now most importantly lets get them up to date on their vaccines." I said, "No, and its not negotiable." He insisted on interrogating me about my reasons, despite having given my 2 healthy kids plenty of vaccinations against my better judgment and even giving some vaccines that I had opted out of and signed a waiver on, and now my 2 kids having been diagnosed with autism. He wouldn't accept any answer why I am skeptical about vaccines and ended up getting so angry he turned red in the face and called me small minded.
Other experiences I've had with medical doctors lately has shown me they have no answers except throw pharmaceuticals at symptoms. They never attempt to determine the cause or the cure of an ailment. I give up. Unless its a broken bone that needs to be set or something that medical people can actually fix, we won't be going to allopathic doctors anymore.
.........and hopefully your wife WON'T go back !!!!!!!
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The glorified drug-pusher is attempting to belittle and fear-monger.
Everyone needs to re-think how you receive treatment in this nation. Mostly you should eat correctly and refrain from seeing ANY conventional doctors. They want to poison you.
Doctors (besides emergency doctors) are largely unneeded, IMHO.
If they would just diagnose and then shut up, perhaps that'd be ok.....................BUT NOOOOOOOOO - then the fear-mongering and drug-pushing kicks into high-gear so they can keep the Mercedes and the trophy-wife.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
So true! This is precisely
So true! This is precisely what is happening. The worst part is many conditions are preventable or curable with treatments these doctors won't even consider. Yet they will poison us forever with drugs that do not cure.
Please note:
Dr. Paul has never spoken out against vaccines per se...it is mandatory vaccines and the amount of unnecessary vaccines that he questions.
Dr. Paul is a medical doctor, and he would be a fool to say that vaccines should not be taken. I'm sure he advised his new parents about the vaccine schedule.
It's the amount of vaccines and the fact that it is legally mandated that we recieve them, or we lose the privilege of attending public school, which in fact is also legally mandated save a private education or home schooler.
Avoid mercury in the vaccines, even a trivial amount isn't good for you, but don't demonize vaccines, demonize the fact that they are mandatory.
My baby girls Doctor whats to talk to me and my wife.......
About the importance of vaccination since we refused it........He said there is more damage not getting her vaccinated then to vaccinate , making us feel like we are not good parents.....I will let him know how much I care about her and her health.
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
My daughter's doc told her the same thing...
It's been a loosing battle for me with her! I've forwarded dozens of articles; however, she believes she chose and excellent doctor who told her he "would vaccinate his grandchildren". End of story as docs are viewed as god-like and instill fear w/o their own research.
Yes, but there are docs who are against vaccinating........
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She should at LEAST find out why some are against it.
Tell her there are two sides of the story, and her willingness to trust this doctor is putting her kids at severe risk.
It's not like the issue of butter-vs-no-butter...it's infinitely more serious.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Here's some news articles you can print out
And give to your doctor:
Vaccines linked to Diabetes
http://www.reuters.com/ar...
Another one
http://www.pslgroup.com/d...
And another one:
http://www.webmd.com/news...
Court concedes Vaccines Cause Autism
http://www.huffingtonpost...
Merck admits they put cancer into vaccines
http://rabbitholenews.blo...
I found out about Ron Paul after our first daughter was 3 and our second daughter was 1 year old, so we had no idea. We'll just be avoiding them from here on out.
Thanks..................
I will sit down tonight and read it
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
And then please tell all the potential new parents in family !!!
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I'm convinced that the subject of vaccination is one the biggest achilles-heels of the crooks who have overtaken this nation, and will wake up millions to all the other evil things of which they are perpetrating against us.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Get a new pediatrician ASAP !!!
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We had to search hard here in Florida, but we finally found one who is anti-vaccination.
Don't let these glorified drug-dealers bully you into accepting these poisons.
Ask that doctor to see the warning labels on all those vaccines.
Ask that doctor to sign a waiver that if your kids become injured from these vaccines that he/she must PERSONALLY be on-the-line financially.
They will NOT sign - and of course your children will NOT be vaccinated.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Oh I will............
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
Did everyone have a safe holiday season?
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..........and by safe, that would include refraining from vaccinating some innocent baby/child with foreign DNA and formaldehyde (to name a couple).
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I interviewed Dr. Carley today on her own show
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Dr. Carley was kind enough to let me come on her own show and interview her on the subject of vaccination.
Here's the audio archive of both hours:
(you can take the slider and move it past commercials)
Patrick interviews Dr. Carley about vaccination (hour 1)
Patrick interviews Dr. Carley about vaccination (hour 2)
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Some more on Gardasil, please read
especially if you have daughters and nieces
http://www.yourlawyer.com...
Were there any Ron Paul supporters stupid enough.............
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.............to inject your kids with aluminum and formaldehyde to make the criminals happy who now run our socialist schools?
You know you can opt-out, right?
You don't have to take the serums.
It's ok to stop believing their lies.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
We have claimed a religious exemption...
you don't have to give details, I wish there was a philosophical exemption too. It also helps if you homeschool.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Massive Brazilian Vaccination Raises Suspicions
Massive Brazilian Vaccination Raises Suspicions of Covert Sterilization Program
http://www.lifesitenews.c...
By Matthew Cullinan Hoffman
August 14, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The commencement of a massive, mandatory vaccination program in Brazil has raised suspicions among international pro-life activists, who note that the program is similar to others in recent years that have included a hidden sterilizing agent in the vaccines.
The campaign, which was begun last week by Brazil's pro-abortion Health Minister, Jose Gomes Temporao, claims that its goal is to annihilate rubella in the South American nation.
Temporao, who has expended considerable energy to legalize abortion, claims he is concerned about the fact that 17 Brazilian children each year suffer birth defects from the disease, in a nation of more than 180 million people. Rubella is normally little more than a nuisance for those who contract it, with symptoms that pass in a matter of days or weeks.
Although the number of children affected by Congenital Rubella Syndrome (CRS) is less per capita than that of both the United Kingdom and Australia in the 1990s, Temporao is heading a mandatory program to vaccinate 70 million Brazilians, which would make it the largest vaccination in history.
Adolfo Castañeda of Human Life International notes that just two years ago, researchers found that the rubella vaccine used in a similar campaign in Argentina was laced with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), a pregnancy hormone that is necessary for a newly conceived zygote to implant in the uterine wall after conception.
When the body receives HCG in a vaccine, it perceives it as an intruder and creates antibodies that fight the presence of the hormone in the body. The body's immunological response is turned against pregnancy, causing abortions when conception occurs.
"In 2006, there was a similar campaign to the current one in Brazil in Argentina," Castañeda writes in a recent HLI bulletin. "The presence of HCG in various samples of the vaccine used against rubella were discovered. The suspicion that brought about the investigation was caused by the fact that there were very few cases of the disease in Argentina, which didn't merit a large-scale campaign."
Castañeda also notes that the age group of women targeted by the campaign is the same or similar to other programs that were proven to include sterilizing agents in vaccines.
"The age of the people who will be vaccinated is 12 to 49 years for women (reproductive age), and between 12 and 39 for men," he writes. "The ages for women are the same as those who received the vaccines in Nicaragua, where they included a hormone that sterilizes the woman who receives it, and similar to the age of those who received another sterilizing hormone in the Philippines."
In fact, as the Australian government notes in its journal, Communicable Diseases Intelligence, small children are the primary conduit for the disease, and highly-effective programs in the US and Australia have therefore focused on that group (http://www.health.gov.au/......). Yet the Brazilian government is ignoring children and is focusing on women in their childbearing years.
Brazilian pro-life activist Julio Severo, who is in hiding from the Brazilian government for his refusal to participate in forced vaccination programs, notes that, strangely, even those who have already received the vaccine, or who have already had rubella (thus ensuring immunity) will be required by the government to receive the vaccine during the current drive.
"If the campaign goal is really to eliminate rubella, then why vaccinate those already vaccinated?" he asks on his blog, Last Days Watchman. "Why compel the vaccination of those that had the illness in the past? It is a fact more than proven that an individual who has had rubella in the past will never have it again."
Severo says that the campaign is seeking to find people wherever they congregate or travel, and there is no option but to receive the vaccine. In fact, he notes, the government has already carried out a widely-publicized prosecution of one woman because her children did not receive some of the the mandatory vaccines. The woman's children were taken from her custody, and co-workers who were aware of the situation and failed to report it were prosecuted. The story has appeared in the media as an example for those who might wish to resist the government's efforts to forcibly vaccinate them.
He also points out that the same international agencies that are backing the current vaccination in Brazil have been involved in research on sterilizing vaccines for decades, and warns that these same groups, which are dedicated to abortion and population control, cannot be trusted.
"In the mass vaccination campaigns in Argentina, Nigeria, Philippines and other countries, UNICEF showed that it knows how to unite the worse intentions to the most angelic appearances," writes Severo. "In Brazil, we have the assurance of Temporao that the mass vaccination campaign is only for protecting babies and helping families."
Related Links:
What is behind the campaign "Brazil Free of Rubella"?
http://lastdayswatchman.b......
HLI Report on Sterilizing Vaccines
http://educate-yourself.o......
Related LifeSiteNews Coverage:
UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds
http://www.lifesitenews.c...
NEW WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION CHIEF INVOLVED IN POPULATION CONTROL VACCINE SCANDAL
http://www.lifesitenews.c...
UNICEF's Other Agendas
Popular Children's Aid Agency at Odds With Conservative Religious Groups for Embracing Politically Correct U.N. Viewpoints
http://www.lifesitenews.c...
Sis-in-law just had baby - AND VISIT FROM SOCIAL WORKER !!!
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My sis-in-law just had a healthy baby boy in a mainline hospital here in Florida and exercised her CHOICE of refraining from the Hep B and Vit K shots they were trying to shove on him IMMEDIATELY after his birth.
Since she would not allow them to mainline toxins into his fragile bloodstream, the head pediatrician insisted a SOCIAL WORKER pay a visit to her.
Fortunately, the social worker was pleasant and didn't threaten my sis-in-law with baby-confiscation.
But why do we have to have this police-state action of sending social workers to harass the innocent?
What if my sis-in-law decided not to breastfeed (which is infinitely more important than any pharmaceutical product they can heap on us), would a social worker have paid a visit to her?
NOOOOOO !!!!!
They don't genuinely care about our health.
Their job is to make sure the flow-of-pharmaceuticals remains un-impeded - and if anyone tries to question or stand in the way of this flow - they send out their thugs to keep us in line.
THE NEW FREEDOM !!!!!
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
There is some confusion here I think...
So I want to throw in some facts. Vaccines in and of themselves provide only a minute risk of contracting the disease being vaccinated for. And the high quality ones, it is literally almost impossible. They are relatively safe, and DO provide significant benefit when for instance traveling to a foreign country which viruses that you do not have an immunity for. However, vaccines do have a limited lifespan and effectiveness and so are useless unless you EXPECT to be exposed to something.
However, the danger in vaccines in the US is that our vaccines are preserved with a heavy metal (mercury). The symptoms and problems associated with vaccinations in the US come from the use of the preservatives, not the vaccine itself. The risk of brain damage and nervous system damage (heavy metal poisoning) and other negative effects is great when you introduce such a large dose of heavy metal into such a small baby and on a continual basis.
If anyone in this debate read my story from below, then you know I am absolutely opposed to forced government vaccinations of children. However, now that she is older, if we were to plan a trip overseas, we WOULD contact a doctor, pay the extra money to insure that we had the required vaccines without the heavy metal preservative (it is possible) and get vaccinated before going (depending on my personal reaction to them, I may not be able to, dunno).
Watch the documentary 'In Lies we Trust'
by Dr.Leonard Horowitz, and then the documentaries by Mary Tocco, or Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.
What about all the foreign DNA, proteins, formaldehyde, etc?
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It's ALL bad, and ALL a witches brew.
Wolfe,
Someday, when history is properly written, vaccination will be seen as being on-par with the horror of blood-letting in the whole history of medicine.
But I respect your right to receive them if you wish - AS AN ADULT.............although I believe that vaccinating children is child abuse, and should be prosecuted accordingly.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Interesting read...
Found other supporting information and believe it is accurate... I show this page because it combined things I found at other legit sites.
http://www.informedchoice...
I took the time to search and read. Most people won't with you yelling at them.
As far as some of the "nasty" stuff in the cocktail. Most (valid and invalid) medicines are poisons in one way or another. It depends on their amount and how they are applied as well as risk assessment.
Penicillin is an easy example. Eat the mold before processing and get sick, or take it for too long and go into septic shock and die of a super infection. But take it the right way at the right time and it will save your life.
Colloidal silver actually has strong antibiotic properties, but take too much and develop argyria.
And that's just a few "natural" examples. Don't get me started on the products of the drug companies. And generally I am opposed to most western medications (I use eastern medicine), but occasionally, they do have the right answer.
And I am not going to say that the stuff is good to put into your body. It's not, but I am going to say, that if you want to make your point heard, everyone here I am sure is willing to listen, if you post facts. For instance, do you have a link to some scientific studies which prove/disprove it's effectiveness (not newspaper anecdotes)? Do you have links on how these other compounds react in the body? I know for a fact how dangerous mercury is, first hand and scientifically even in trace amounts. Do you have sites which prove that in the amounts used, these other toxins are not properly handled by the body?
Do you see where I am going with this? Even in your semi-polite post to me, you chose to imply that I was somehow not treating my daughter correctly by considering vaccinations for her for overseas trips. I chose not to take offense to it, but I wouldn't blame someone who did. I have taken care of my daughter by myself for almost a decade and so for you to imply something like that is rude and ill-informed.
Educating and debating is far more effective than attacking people.
Not attacking you at all.....
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My anger is geared towards the medical-mafia....not at individuals whom I see as victims.
If my tone seems a bit rough at times, it's only because I see my fellow Americans as victims caught in a blaze and I'm screaming for them to run to safety.
As far as "PROOF" based on a study that a certain adjuvant or ingredient in vaccines that is harmful, I don't even know where to begin. It's kind of like this - - there is so much information to study on this subject that just pointing to one study, document, quote, or statistic is just asking to get shot down. Others and myself have posted enormous amounts of information in this thread to definitely get started down the road to enlightenment.
But realize this - each time a doctor comes out with a study, statistic or quote that condemns the record of vaccination, they are then somehow labeled as "quacks" or "conspiracy theorists".
Open-dialogue or opposing-studies are NOT allowed in the mainstream avenues of information.
So therefore, since the pharm side of the fence refuses to play fair or have an open dialogue regarding the risks vs benefits of vaccines, those who oppose vaccination tend to be a little bit in-your-face at times because we are fighting like mad for our rights while desperately trying to inform the populace.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Vaccines are STILL in experimental stage - AT BEST
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Even those of you who believe in vaccination and its "merits", wouldn't you agree that it's still in its infancy as far as a scientific experiment?
Vaccination didn't start in the U.S. on a large scale until the '50s.
We have NO CLUE - just as GMO foods - how far-reaching and detrimental this experiment will be.
Can some of you understand why I would want my children to sit out of their experiment?
All of you who completely trust vaccination are offering your kids up to an EXPERIMENT - pure and simple.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Me and my five brothers have
Me and my five brothers have all been vaccinated with all the reccommmended vaccines, except chicken pox, and two of us have had extra vaccines for overseas travel (yellow fever) and we are all at the tops of our classes. So.....
In the world of mathematical statistics, there is a little thing called 'lurking variables.' In the world we live in, there are few, if any, absolutes. To pinpoint vaccines (which are unarguably helpful to humankind, ie: polio) as the cause of birth defects, ADD, etc is understandble, but a little weak. There have been so many changes in our environment (not just nature, our society) that vaccines may be part of it, but there may be lurking variables. Changes in foods (higher synthetic ingredients, processing, fake sugars, caffeine), increased levels of nicotine, global warming, radiation, cell phone use (?), etc. I am sure genetics plays a part in who is going to be prone to these diseases/defects.
Lets be scientists here, and examine all options.
So Cameron
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Why are vaccines being developed (if they haven't already been implemented) which are called "contraceptive" vaccines that are piggy-backed on tetanus and diptheria shots?
These eugenists are playing god.
The people in these third-world nations are having their women sterilized without their consent.
Please don't try to deny that this plot exists because - again - here's an abstract from these pharm crooks ADMITTING what I say:
British Medical Bulletin 49:88-99 (1993)
© 1993 The British Council
research-article
Contraceptive Vaccines
R J Aiken, M Paterson and P Thillai Koothan
MRC Reproductive Biology Unit, University of Edinburgh Edinburgh, UK
so there's conclusive PROOF....
PROOF
UNDENIABLE
ADMITTED
PROOF
.........that these crooks are trying to AT THE VERY LEAST sterilize the population.
But go ahead and continue to trust them.
They love us and care for us.
They know what's best for the world because we're too dumb to survive on our own without their help.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
What does this have to do
What does this have to do with American children getting vaccinated for school? Dont blame the vaccines or science, blame the asswipes who are doing it.
Here's what it has to do with..........
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........the fact that these pharm-companies, schools, governments and organizations which push these poisons can NOT be trusted.
Do you think there's some sort of wall-of-separation between the "good" aspect of vaccination and the bad?
It's ALL bad...........and has ALWAYS been bad.
It's time for Americans to pull up their roots from all of this infrastructure (including the pharm/medical empire) which has failed us miserably.
It's time to become self-sufficient.
The Amish have been the most correct with how to live their lives, and I'm trying - AS FAST AS I CAN - to get off the addiction of 'infrastructure' and "get back to the land", so to speak.
It's not easy.
It's like one of those Will Smith movies where he's running from a building that's exploding behind him and he dives just at the last second to avoid total death and destruction.
Can we escape the evil which is engulfing us all in time?
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
I have told my kids not to vaccinate
Last year I started seeing alot of ADD, sudden infant death syndrom and so forth so it was brought to my attention it was due to the vaccinations we are givin from the time we are born! So I started researching this and here are some very good sites that helped me to see the light.
http://www.vaclib.org
Very good source of info.
There are also some very good videos on the subject.
google Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
youtube.com has some also.
The problem I am finding is that people are uninformed and they so blindly just believe in what our Dr.'s say. I know this because I was there. So those of you that want to believe that vaccinations are safe and that they keep you from getting sick may I suggest that you simply research this as I have and draw your own conclusion. The Dr.'s are only following what they are told. Ask your Dr. if they give their children this poison. Unfortunantly my daughter doesn't believe me and just had my grandson filled with this crap yesterday and now I am worried for him. People are not going to listen until it hits home for alot of them and I fear that is the case in my own family. How many times must a child die from being shot up with these poisons before people wake up???? Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you don't have the right to keep your child safe. Protect them and do the research. Thats all I am going to say.
How could your kids not respect your wisdom?
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Give your daughter my cell #.
I'll set her straight right now !!!
Big pharma done stole her logic.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida