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Makes no sense...

What a weird bunch of crap.

Lesbian couple of 55 years ready to say, "I do"...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...

So...

Now it's ok to get married to someone of the same sex. In fact, you're called a bigot or a religious zealot for questioning such a union.

But...

If you are a man and they think you might be married to 2 women, they will come to your home in a tank with their guns drawn, knock down your door and take your children away from you.

What kind of twisted reasoning does it take to accept all this sh*t?

I mean, I don't care if a man marries another man if that's what he wants to do. But I also don't care if a man marries 2 women... if that's what they all want to do.

But the logic of condeming one union... and making special favors for the other... makes no sense to me.

Am I wrong to think this whole concept is insane?

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Interesting article

arguing that the CA ruling has thrown the door to polygamy wide open.

http://www.worldnetdaily....

No, you are not wrong

The government should not be involved in the people's partnering practices in any way.

Clueless...

The reason it's OK for gays to get married is because the Supreme Court struck down the sodomy laws back in November of '03. It's no longer a crime for gays to co-habitate so naturally they're going to seek the same rights as everyone else.

If you want to have group marriages then good for you, but you're going to have to do something about the bigamy laws first then you can think about getting laws passed for multiple marriages.

Not that I think that would go anywhere... See marriage has always been about property and inheritance. It has never had anything to do with love or family.

If you can codify who gets inheritance rights? 4th born of the first wife or 1st born of the 3rd wife then you'll have a shot at legalizing polygamy. Until then, any effort will go nowhere.

Should be up to churches who

Should be up to churches who they wanna marry...
and to state who they wanna marry...
and up to individuals who they wanna live and make contracts with...

The same kind of twisted

The same kind of twisted thinking that makes it illegal to have anything Christian in Christmas because it might offend someone but to force gay pride parades on the public is absolutely mandatory. To not support people's gay rights might offend some one? Now the logic there escapes me! To each their own as long as it is "politically correct?"

Removing the Christian

Removing the Christian trappings from Christmas only happens on public property.

See, if a building is supported with taxes that are levied on EVERYONE it doesn't make sense to celebrate a holiday that excludes people.

How would you feel if I went down to your city hall and put a big Buddha statue outside? As a Christian would you feel represented by your government? Probably not.

This is how all the Jews, Hindus, Shintos, Muslims, Buddhists and Atheists feel when they go by city, county or federal property and see a manger scene.

The Government is supposed to represent everyone and as a result it cannot play favorites.

Politically Correct

Politically correct is a sinister, devious, passive-aggressive subtle form of censorship.

Reality Check

The very fact that you think this whole conflicting concept is insane, is proof of your own sanity.

As someone else alluded, consensual contracts and agreements conducted between private parties warrants no interference whatsoever with government agencies (unless, say, you're contracting a hit on a third party).

I don't care if Wilma and Westley want to marry Wanda The Wonder Watermelon, no consensual arrangements between private parties depend upon the blessings of the government (even though the state likes to assert otherwise).

What kind of twisted reasoning does it take to accept all this...stuff? :) The same kind that brought you the FED, the IRS, and all those other little twisted governmental delights.

As a related aside, it is challenging to stand up for such arrangements. When you find yourself fighting for the rights of people to engage in things you never would personally engage in (because it's the Constitutionally correct thing to do), people are often quick to assume that you personally champion certain lifestyles. This is a big part of our big-picture fight: retraining minds of sheeple to apply critical thinking, rather than thinking...critically.

I know what you mean...

I've been called a "liberal", "tree hugger", a "pacifist", a "terrorist sympathizer", "one of those tax evaders", a "religious zealot", an "anarchist", etc., etc. Many more too. None of which I am... except maybe a "conspiracy theorist", which is a rather vague term that pretty much describes everyone with a brain. We all know that there are people using the power and money in politics to line their own pockets and the pockets of their buddies. I mean, who ever heard of an honest politician, right?

How far do these "conspiracies" go? Which ones are true and which ones are fabricated BS? Who knows. It's hard to figure out what to believe any more.

And I too am tired of having a label attached to me. I'm a republican at heart I guess, but one who never really put much stock in voting. I always felt the ones the party nominated were phony liars and panderers. Both parties. Except Reagan. He seemed pretty real to me in the beginning. Anyway, I believe in true conservative principles... limited government, non-interventionalism, free markets, free trade, and so on. But I'm none of the names that people call me when I express my opinion. Why do people jump to conclusions like that?

Brain-washing.

I don't think the government actions are about marriage

Here's what I think the motives are of the people involved:

-The local people are the modern day "witch" hunters believing whatever hysterical hype they hear

-The law officers (sheriffs, judges, prosecutors) are mostly following orders and might be witch hunters or might know they are going after innocent people, but don't care cause its their job on the line

-The local politicians turn a blind eye because its their job on the line. Either because they know its a staging point for taking control of local groups or because they're scared about getting reelected.

-The Federal politicians know the people in the camp are innocent, but think its necessary because we have to condition the people for getting rounded up.

As free people there's nothing wrong with multiple consenting wives. I think what they don't want groups like the compound to have is self sufficiency and they want the people in the compound, but more importantly people outside the compound to realize the government can go into an area, steal children, force government medicine and take their livelihoods away at any time.

it's all relative....

once you reach a certain point in life, assuming you've at least tried to understand "life" as it were, you realize that all this is crap. you think A is right, I swear by B....the day we realize that life is a unique journey for everyone everywhere, maybe we'll understand that my opinion is just that and that I have no right whatsoever to tell you what to do about anything..once we collectively feel that way, positive change can occur

I am free only because I choose to deal with the consequences of my actions. I do not fear death, I fear life without liberty.

Really Weird

To each his own, but...

It does seem odd that we live in a world where one man can legally agree to have his rectum penetrated by the genitals of another man, but it is illegal for one man to agree to perform labor for another man for less than $7 per hour.

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Civil Ceremonies

are just legal contracts, not marriages in the religious sense. They are contracts where you agree to take care of each other, share each other's expenses, etc., etc. So what? I believe that can be a good thing because too many gay couples have children and guess who gets screwed when they quit playing house?

So, the whole thing is absurd. If a man wants to contract with more than one woman, and she agrees, go for it. If two people of the same sex want to enter into a binding contract, so be it.

I believe marriage certificates protect the rights of the children and also legal protection for each party involved in the transaction.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

no, you're not wrong

You aren't wrong but silliness is the name of the game......The very fact that there were slaves after the constitution was signed, is silly. The fact that I'm supposedly free, yet can't take the drugs I might happen to prefer over alcohol or niccotine, is ignorant. The fact that the majority of this country proudly states that they are free yet are nothing more than slaves without chains, is ludacris. Mostly though, the fact that people do not understand what freedom even means, is silly. The unfortunate thing us Ron Paul supporters and liberty lovers need to understand is that 10% of the world is intelligent, 65 percent are average intelligence, and 25% are below average intelligence (just throwing those #'s out there, I didn't look them up, lol). To think that we can simply sway the people that can't even understand why we believe what we do is silly. We have to take it and we have to take it by education and/or force. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating force...just stating that I can't talk a sheep into anything but I can sick the dog on him and he'll do whatever I want.......it's possilbe to teach it, but it takes a very very long time :)

I am free only because I choose to deal with the consequences of my actions. I do not fear death, I fear life without liberty.

Well

giving fairness where none is due, FLDS was not raided because of polygamy. It was raided for falsely being accused of child abuse.

Raided because...

it is in the direct path of the Trans Texas Corridor and the neocons want that 1700 acre ranch.

OK...

I can see that. But polygamy is against the law though. Being gay isn't against the law... and now in some states it's not against the law to marry someone of the same sex.

I'm just saying that none of these "marriage laws" make sense.

How can they say who I can say my vows to?

wpsmithjr Before we get on

wpsmithjr

Before we get on to questioning your sanity, let's first examine whether or not the government should have any say over marriage whatsoever. I thought that marriage was a sacred vow made before God by two individuals to commit to a lifetime of mutual love and care. As far as I'm concerned, the Gov has no damn business getting invoved in matters of marriage at all. Marriage is either a function of Government, or it is a function of Religion. Because one is secular and the other is Religious, it cannot belong to both.
Which is it?

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

Does it have to be either?

You suggested that marriage is either a function of gov't, or a function of religion. There is another option: it can simply be a function of two (or more) people deciding among themselves alone upon a vow, agreement, or course of action.

I suppose other creatures and objects could also be included (we do live in a bizarre world), except that neither animals nor inanimate objects have the ability to voice their consent to such arrangements, and therefore such unions would ipso-facto be non-consensual.

Yeah...

I agree.

Seems to me I can vow anything I want... to anyone I want... as long as I'm not infringing on someone else's rights.

It would also help solve the whole issue of "same-sex marriage". They want the same tax benefits as a heterosexual married couple. Why is our (unconstitutional) tax system based on whether or not you've entered into a religious union with someone else or not?

Again, makes no sense.

Of course, what does these days?

Common Sense

Common Sense has apparently flown the coop.
It's like Ron Paul said..most "supposedly" complex issues can all be solved by simply following the Constitution....and also just like Boscovius stated (and Ron Paul has too I believe)...marriage is a religious institution...not a governmental one. I don't think our forefathers of the 1700's had to deal with that delimma. I'm not sure but didn't the government (and states) get involved in the "marriage permit business" in the beginning as a control on inter-racial marriages (Indians, blacks, whites) ?