Remember? Freedom brings us together?

just about as good as anyone could ask for. Why, you may ask? I come here and I read ideas and thoughts that I have never been exposed too. It forces me to think about Dr. Paul's message and how these ideas compliment or clash with the Constitution. I think this campaign is like a family. Yes, a family because families members don't agree on everything.
My family can't even agree on what restaurant to go too. Our political thoughts are varied and it makes for a lively discussion. We're human celebrate it. I can guarantee that we will never agree on every idea, platform or position. Let's face it there are people who come here who try to disrupt the forum but I think they actually help and I'll tell you why. They force us to define and sharpen our skills so when we go out and talk to family and friends we have been tested and are more knowledgeable than if we were a bunch of cheerleaders. The one thing that we can agree on is the Constitution and all the beautiful Freedom that comes with it. Peace

"I think that the strength of our movement is that we are barely even able to agree, even among ourselves. The glue that holds us together is the desire for freedom, and to not be herded and oppressed, even though each of our personal views may be widely divergent on many subjects. This utter lack of consensus on almost everything, acts as a "filter" which rejects anything out of our goals that even resembles special interest, and leaves only freedom as the remaining consensus. As such, it is a uniquely "self-cleaning" movement. It's very interesting, and I've never seen anything quite like it. It creates an incredible armor against infection, due to its very nature. However, there is alot of contentiousness that comes along with it, but we seem to be able to survive that because it's individual views and not oppression.
The only thing that can move us is something that will bring us further along on our path for more freedom. There is no "special interest issue" or any other thing which can even begin to move us.

There is only one thing that binds this movement, and that is a direction that allows each and every one of us as individuals, to live in the freedom and peace that we seek for our own lives, without(or with very minimal) government interference.
That's why no other group even understands us, or can co-opt us, and why we have to do it ourselves. There is no outside help, unless we convert it. It's us against oppression."
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

.....................Freedom is the Word.

and people bicker about all this
little crap that just doesn't matter.
We have bigger fish to fry,lets get out our pans and start cookin!!!!!!!!!!!

when they get together and talk to each other, they don't agree on what freedom is.

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"I care about liberty."

That's touching. However, the RP movement is splintering because the supporters define liberty in different ways. Check out this link to understand what I'm saying so I won't have go on a philosophical rant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

RP supporters have different definitions of liberty, thats why some are clinging to Nader or the Green Party and some are going to Baldwin or Barr. The Green Party, Democratic Party, and Nader define liberty in one extreme and Barr and Baldwin define liberty in the opposite extreme.

I understand what you'e saying and I agree for the most part. Am I guilty of saying I'm voting for Ron Paul, write-in if necessary, and do I get downright obstinate about it? Yep. You may wonder why some of us get like that. When I get like that, it's because of people who have just joined and imo are DELIBERATELY trying to sway people away from Ron Paul. (They are not really RP supporters, but only here to cause problems). That gets my dander up, and I react accordingly. I suppose you could say I should ignore those people, and in a way you'd be right. However, why I don't ignore them is this: if new legitimate people (new people who truly are trying to find out more information about Dr. Paul) see these posts by those trying to sway people from Ron Paul...and if we don't, in writing, denounce the crap they are saying, then how are the new legitimate people supposed to know the truth about Ron Paul? Of course, most would think the TRUTH would be posted at a site using his name....

To put it simply, if imo a post here is from someone who is not truly here to further the agenda of Ron Paul, but really here only to cause trouble, I will have my say...

I care about liberty, too. Seeing liberties being taken away, one by one, then reading posts from those who imo are trying to DELIBERATELY undermine the agenda of the only CANDIDATE (imo) who can change the direction our Country is headed...also compels me to put my two cents in.

But, I also offer positive feedback on this site and others, too.

I respect your right to say how you feel, I hope you also respect mine.
Anyone is free not to read anything I post...

Plan to be in St. Paul. I you can be no where else be in St. Paul. Safety in numbers.
grant.

Absolutely. We should engage each other in discussion over the merits of Baldwin, Barr, etc., but we should do it in a way that is informative and respectful. The same goes for discussions on the economy, conspiracies, or any other topic. We need to remember what it was that drew us all together here on this site. Remember that we all have a lot more that is in common with each other than is different. Do you remember when we realized this last summer/fall? We need to remind ourselves of that again.

That's the funny thing about it all...

We want to be free.

But...

If someone is freely doing something you think isn't right, then they become some kind of traitor to the movement.

BULL SH*T.

Vote for Bob Barr. Vote for Baldwin. Write in Ron Paul. Talk about 9/11 being an inside job. Talk about how those "inside job" people are crazy if you want to.

FREEDOM.

LIBERTY.

The last thing we need to do as libertarian-minded people is to try to "lock step" and mold people into doing or saying things a certain way. Kind of goes against everything we stand for. We're not neo-cons. We've got an ideology like they do... but ours is not a "lock step"-type ideology. It's the exact opposite.

I admit some unity would be nice. And we had it for awhile... we were all RP supporters if nothing else. We were all going to vote for RP... and most of us did.

But...

He didn't get the nomination. And the write-in votes appear to be a waste of time. It would be nice if RP would endorse Barr or Baldwin, so we might could have someone we can ALL vote on, but I can understand why he might not want to do that as well. He's got delegates going to the convention, so I'm sure he wants to at least see what kind of presence we end up with in St. Paul before he throws his support to another candidate.

Quit bitchin' at one another and let's see what the "Campaign for Liberty" has in store for us. I personally think it's a great idea and we need to stay focused on what Dr. Paul is trying to achieve.

We support the US Constitution and that is enough to make us brothers for all time. No needs to convince others of our "views" on many other things that may or may not matter. We need to stay united to our ONE purpose.

We will have to be careful, there are many many people here with their own interests and the drive to break us apart in order to pick up the peices. I would be suspicious of anyone who does not present their case in a truly open and constructive way. This pressure to divide us will increase as our votes will be sought by both the McCain (Liberal Fascist) and Obama (Communist, Socialist) camp. Noone who supports Libertarian and Constitutional views should be attacked, no matter what their past may be. We move forward and we should judge a man based on his current actions.

"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."

I can't help thinking of the people turned off to Dr.Paul because of the fighting.

If you believe the 911 stuff, go ahead. That's your right. Dr. Paul doesn't and new readers need to know that. End of story. I also will be voting for Barr or Baldwin. Dr. Paul thinks that's a good idea and productive. Can we move on please. If the presidential election gets us so upset, focus on our awesome delegates and congressional races. We need to grow up and focus.

I am a long-time observer and recent member of the Daily Paul. I do not post often, but when I see a thread such as this, I must support it. Thank you for reminding us that there is common ground among our many movements.

Think for yourself. Question authority.

Trying to herd cats, now thats funny.