dr. paul called me...please read and BUMP!
Submitted by sunny on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 14:46
please read now - from evan cutler at the meetup posted below.
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1873
Greetings Teammates!
I know there has been a lot of frustrating and letting go through out the Ron Paul activist community since Dr. Paul's announcement of "closing the official campaign." But as Dr. Paul said, on his video subsequently posted Campaign for Liberty?Phase II (see http://www.youtube.co... ) "we must not give, up, we are never giving up!"
He says in that video, "Now, does this purely regulatory change mean that our goals at the National Convention in Saint Paul, Minnesota in September have changed? Not at all! We must take back the Republican Party. We need to take back America for our ideals. Our delegates and our alternates will still attend the convention?." In the recording he goes on to say more yes. He is more pessimistic than I about the potentials there.
But I put it Dr. Paul directly when he called me on Sunday afternoon, just as I put it to him we when last talked in March?right before I committed to this project.
I asked, "Dr. Paul, if by some miracle we do win you the Republican nomination for the Presidency at that convention in September, will you accept it, and are you still willing to run for and accept the Presidency of the United States?"
Dr. Paul answered me without hesitation, that his answer was yes, he would accept, though he found it hard to see happening with just 46 delegates.
I told him that this project has two goals:
1) to go for that long shot, to try to win that miracle of a nomination from the delegates. The fact is our lawyers tell me, even with the end of the "official campaign" the law presents no reason that the delegates can not change their mind and select Dr. Paul if they want. They can indeed unbind themselves according to the rules, by sitting out votes en mass. It's my understanding this was done my Missouri in 2004?where they sat out one round, and thus unbound themselves.
2) to educate the delegates on the host of issues that concern us. The GOP delegates and alternates, by and large, are the very movers and shakers that dominate the party right now. They already have power, and instead of trying to vanquish them, all we do to show them the reasonableness and need for adopting our positions, can only make our challenge that much easier. The result we want is really no less than the return of recognition to our Natural, Inalienable Rights and respect for the Constitution. We want an end to theft and illegal war, an end to government sanctioned torture, a return of habeas corpus, a Congress, Judiciary, and Executive that follow the law.
Dr. Paul supports both of these goals, though he has little faith in the first one. This project is not his idea, but the fact is, there is no other project right now with more potential to make goal number one, above, a reality. It's a no-lose proposition. By the end of this project, we will have educated 4,600 elite Republicans on what's important. Some of them with open their eyes?we do not know how many, but some. And we will continue to share the same videos online with the world.
I told Dr. Paul point blank that I would continue to champion this unless he told me, Evan, please stop. To the contrary, he didn't see how it could hurt, just as long as I made it clear it wasn't his project.
What a blessing and an honor to me, to get two calls yesterday, on Father's day. One from my own father, and one from Ron Paul?two quiet and humble men I greatly respect.
We are never going to quit. I'm in this project at least until September, when I go as a National Alternate for Ron Paul myself, and will get to witness firsthand if the miracle for which we work and strive will manifest!
Remember, there is a lot of change going on in our world. My own sense is that the economic problems in the US and world will be far worse by September. People will be demanding change more and more. By then the Republican Party will likely understand that if it goes ahead as planned and chooses McCain, then it's really just choosing Obama, because McCain is not what America wants.
We are the only ones in America who will be lobbying the delegates like this. It's never been done on this kind of scale, from the grassroots. No one will know if we will succeed until we've first tried.
We've raised over $3,000 of the $90,000 needed, and donations are starting to pick up again. I hope each of you will reach out to the meetups and other Ron Paul groups in your state to spread the word that the National DVDs for Delegates Project is real and continuing. We need just $2,000 more in donations before I will commit to hiring the editor to start production on the first DVD. It could be ready for mailing within 10 days of that. In the meantime we have many of the delegate lists we need, and are actively working to get the others.
Wednesday, I hope many of you will join us for a teleconference planning our teams for deciding the content of our next three DVDs. We are on a tight deadline now, and I really need those of you who can, to pick up a piece of responsibility and help with making this all happen.
Strengthened by whatever measure of success we find, we will continue, I hope, with DVDs for Congress, and DVDs for Judges. We will provide and education for our nation's power-brokers they have obviously missed.
Please spread the word. We need each state to contribute $20 for each National Delegate and Alternate they are sending to the GOP convention. It is a simple formula. If your state has 50 national delegates and 50 national alternates, that is 100 times $20, or $2,000. That is very little for what we give. One wealthy contributor or 20 less wealthy ones per state, and it's paid.
Please take the time and send word to your activists and supporters to send your state's share of donations today. Go to www.dvds4delegates.com and click DONATE today; there are also instructions for mailing in checks, plus my resume, or Treasurer's resume, and a project budget. Start getting your state ready to accept the DVDs and send them to your own delegates, and pick volunteers to adopt the delegates and in a friendly way urge them to watch their DVDs and discuss them. We need to learn what works and what does not, so we can adjust the content for our final DVD.
Well that's enough for one email,
Thanks all, for your support.
Evan
Evan Cutler, Organizer
National DVDs for Delegates Project
www.dvds4delegates.com
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Hope is on the way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01kcqKd2Tag
Why did you call you?
Jeez, don't leave us hanging...
Join us in donating to this effort...
Fellow Ron Paul supporters please donate to the dvds4delegates.com project. In many states our own delegates will hand deliver the DVDs to each Republican delegate. The media has kept so much about Ron Paul from them. Once they see what we see in Ron Paul his support will grow.
To begin with McCain may lose enough delegates votes that he will not get the nomination on the first ballot!
The delegates may request that Ron Paul be allowed to come and speak to them at the convention!
Donate at www.dvds4delegates.com
Tell everyone you know to join in the effort. Here is our chance to help Ron Paul get the nomination!
Wm
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
this needs to be consolidated ....
there is much interest...or add a link on the other post. so people can go to both threads...easily...
Great feedback, lets do it!
I've signed up to both the meetup group and the domain site.
C'mon everyone :)
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Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon
http://www.enduswars.org/
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The only way to Defend freedom, is with power.
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And it's true, you can petition all you want - won't change shit.
Delegates
This was posted some time ago so the numbers may not be exact but the message is the same and this can happen with the right planning.
McCain has by some reports 1333 pledged delegates and 85 RNC delegates.Huckabee has 272 pledged delegates and 3 RNC delegates.Romney has 255 pledged delegates.Pledged delegates are just that pledged.The pledged delegates do not have to vote McCain although for party unity they might.They have just signed a letter of their intentions. What would happen if they didn't vote for McCain and placed their votes for Ron Paul,probably nothing. I mean I don't think they will be shackled and sent to Iraq. They might catch a little flack about party unity,but the party has shown no unity to Dr. Paul this whole campaign.But if a number of them defect the numbers could break down a lot different.If Romney and Huckabee delegates voted for Dr. Paul they could place him with 527 delegates+ his 26 or 42 which would place him at 569 if you go with the 42 figure.Now if a number of McCain delegates jump ship he could very well get the nomination or at least broker the convention. lot of McCain's count he did not earn on his own.A lot of the states have a winner take all type thing going. So in those states everyone else's delegates had to pledge to him (hence 1333).But if a good number of those delegates believe they have been gyped out of their vote,they not only can but should vote against the pledge or abstain from voting that will bring the numbers very different.Take the case of Abraham Lincoln in the Republican National Convention of 1860. Going into the Convention he had only 32 delegates,but a few months before he had gave a speech at Coopers Union in New York. The topic he spoke on was The Constitution and he researched his material and gave a monumental speech.You can very easily relate this to some of Dr. Paul's speeches (like Nevada).But the when the Convention came his delegates and supporters packed the place and were very vocal as to their support of Mr. Lincoln. There were three votes for the nomination with Lincoln winning the third and final vote and the Republican nomination for 1860 and who went on to be the 16th President.
Delegates
This was posted some time ago so the numbers may not be exact but the message is the same and this can happen with the right planning.
McCain has by some reports 1333 pledged delegates and 85 RNC delegates.Huckabee has 272 pledged delegates and 3 RNC delegates.Romney has 255 pledged delegates.Pledged delegates are just that pledged.The pledged delegates do not have to vote McCain although for party unity they might.They have just signed a letter of their intentions. What would happen if they didn't vote for McCain and placed their votes for Ron Paul,probably nothing. I mean I don't think they will be shackled and sent to Iraq. They might catch a little flack about party unity,but the party has shown no unity to Dr. Paul this whole campaign.But if a number of them defect the numbers could break down a lot different.If Romney and Huckabee delegates voted for Dr. Paul they could place him with 527 delegates+ his 26 or 42 which would place him at 569 if you go with the 42 figure.Now if a number of McCain delegates jump ship he could very well get the nomination or at least broker the convention. lot of McCain's count he did not earn on his own.A lot of the states have a winner take all type thing going. So in those states everyone else's delegates had to pledge to him (hence 1333).But if a good number of those delegates believe they have been gyped out of their vote,they not only can but should vote against the pledge or abstain from voting that will bring the numbers very different.Take the case of Abraham Lincoln in the Republican National Convention of 1860. Going into the Convention he had only 32 delegates,but a few months before he had gave a speech at Coopers Union in New York. The topic he spoke on was The Constitution and he researched his material and gave a monumental speech.You can very easily relate this to some of Dr. Paul's speeches (like Nevada).But the when the Convention came his delegates and supporters packed the place and were very vocal as to their support of Mr. Lincoln. There were three votes for the nomination with Lincoln winning the third and final vote and the Republican nomination for 1860 and who went on to be the 16th President.
Delegates
This was posted some time ago so the numbers may not be exact but the message is the same and this can happen with the right planning.
McCain has by some reports 1333 pledged delegates and 85 RNC delegates.Huckabee has 272 pledged delegates and 3 RNC delegates.Romney has 255 pledged delegates.Pledged delegates are just that pledged.The pledged delegates do not have to vote McCain although for party unity they might.They have just signed a letter of their intentions. What would happen if they didn't vote for McCain and placed their votes for Ron Paul,probably nothing. I mean I don't think they will be shackled and sent to Iraq. They might catch a little flack about party unity,but the party has shown no unity to Dr. Paul this whole campaign.But if a number of them defect the numbers could break down a lot different.If Romney and Huckabee delegates voted for Dr. Paul they could place him with 527 delegates+ his 26 or 42 which would place him at 569 if you go with the 42 figure.Now if a number of McCain delegates jump ship he could very well get the nomination or at least broker the convention. lot of McCain's count he did not earn on his own.A lot of the states have a winner take all type thing going. So in those states everyone else's delegates had to pledge to him (hence 1333).But if a good number of those delegates believe they have been gyped out of their vote,they not only can but should vote against the pledge or abstain from voting that will bring the numbers very different.Take the case of Abraham Lincoln in the Republican National Convention of 1860. Going into the Convention he had only 32 delegates,but a few months before he had gave a speech at Coopers Union in New York. The topic he spoke on was The Constitution and he researched his material and gave a monumental speech.You can very easily relate this to some of Dr. Paul's speeches (like Nevada).But the when the Convention came his delegates and supporters packed the place and were very vocal as to their support of Mr. Lincoln. There were three votes for the nomination with Lincoln winning the third and final vote and the Republican nomination for 1860 and who went on to be the 16th President.
Delegates
This was posted some time ago so the numbers may not be exact but the message is the same and this can happen with the right planning.
McCain has by some reports 1333 pledged delegates and 85 RNC delegates.Huckabee has 272 pledged delegates and 3 RNC delegates.Romney has 255 pledged delegates.Pledged delegates are just that pledged.The pledged delegates do not have to vote McCain although for party unity they might.They have just signed a letter of their intentions. What would happen if they didn't vote for McCain and placed their votes for Ron Paul,probably nothing. I mean I don't think they will be shackled and sent to Iraq. They might catch a little flack about party unity,but the party has shown no unity to Dr. Paul this whole campaign.But if a number of them defect the numbers could break down a lot different.If Romney and Huckabee delegates voted for Dr. Paul they could place him with 527 delegates+ his 26 or 42 which would place him at 569 if you go with the 42 figure.Now if a number of McCain delegates jump ship he could very well get the nomination or at least broker the convention. lot of McCain's count he did not earn on his own.A lot of the states have a winner take all type thing going. So in those states everyone else's delegates had to pledge to him (hence 1333).But if a good number of those delegates believe they have been gyped out of their vote,they not only can but should vote against the pledge or abstain from voting that will bring the numbers very different.Take the case of Abraham Lincoln in the Republican National Convention of 1860. Going into the Convention he had only 32 delegates,but a few months before he had gave a speech at Coopers Union in New York. The topic he spoke on was The Constitution and he researched his material and gave a monumental speech.You can very easily relate this to some of Dr. Paul's speeches (like Nevada).But the when the Convention came his delegates and supporters packed the place and were very vocal as to their support of Mr. Lincoln. There were three votes for the nomination with Lincoln winning the third and final vote and the Republican nomination for 1860 and who went on to be the 16th President.
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"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
Great Post
In God We Trust!
I believe in miracles!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
What we need
is a miricle. Why not? They happen all the time.
$100 for DVDs just sent.
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Lisa C.
“Elections are short term efforts; revolutions are long term projects.”
--Ron Paul
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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
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Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon
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The so called front runners
The so called front runners might in deed run into trouble right before the finish line...
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/52675
Never give up! Thanks for the great post!
Exactly...
And Bump
IT'S DOABLE
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
Great post! Thank you.
Do you have the SC Delegate and alternate list? I have names but no addresses yet. Let me know if you need anything here in SC, I will gladly help. I wish I had funds to donate but unfortunately things are getting tight, but what I can offer is my time. Click on my DP name to contact me via e-mail.
If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill
update to post - VIP!
the link is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqXq8YxQFQ -
AND
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1873
there is a call tonite about this. please check out the meetup link above.
PLEASE KEEP THIS BUMPED!!!
Ron Paul is my President
Delegates are our first priority.
Get elected, even if you have to keep your mouth shut and slip into position. Ron Paul has pulled down their guard, there will be less of them and more of us at state conventions now.
grant
Nice post...
I'll let my local meet-up know, too...
Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon
http://www.enduswars.org/
This is important
and as a matter of fact, it was posted previously under the subject "Delegates." Now all of you who want to promote someone else...go elsewhere and let us do this without your interference. It isn't that you are not free to have your own thoughts and opinions...but, really would you go to the Ford Dealership, if you were shopping for a Ferrari.
Ron Paul supporters...since we cannot flag, let's try ignoring trolls (which is always recommended - let them have their "free" voice and then ignore) and keep posting and bumping Ron Paul/Campaign for Liberty subject posts up to the top.
IT'S DOABLE
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
Very positive
and uplifting post. I will help them with their DVD.
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Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Fellowship of the White Rose