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The Anti-Bob Barr. Pro McCainiacs are out in force. UPDATED

Its easy to pick out the trolls on the DP. The paid McCain propaganda pushers that are trying to diffuse the message .

Most have just joined the DailyPaul and are hitting the Ron Paul sites hard to break up the powerful Ron Paul forces.

Here is a fact- Ron Paul wants and hopes Bob Barr gets into the debates to spread the message.

Fact - Ron Paul said he hopes Bob Barr's campaign does better than his did.

Fact - The only way that we can possibly get the message into the general election is through Bob Barr.

people trying to stop this, Barr, Baldwin, or any other format for trying to spread the message are trying to stop the message.

Interesting that many Ron Paul supporters complained that Old School Republicans were close minded to Ron Paul and the Revolution, and now I see the exact same treatment given to Barr or bashing of Ron Paul supporters who wish to continue the message through Barr, just as establishment Republicans pushed disinformation to try and thwart the Ron Paul campaign.

Ron Paul's message of freedom, liberty and optimism obviously did not get through to all and that's disappointing.

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Sorry you're disappointed in us.

I'm going to write-in Ron Paul. End of story.

If that sends you running to grief counseling, so bit it.

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Ron Paul replied in response

Ron Paul replied in response to the reporter asking him if he would run independent/third party. He said he had done that in the past and didn't do very well, and that he hoped Barr could do some good. He was not implying that Barr would do better than him in this election where he has run republican. I think it is very important we stick with the facts on these issues and not misinterpret what he actually said, instead of what someone may have liked for him to say (essentially trying to use him to get people to throw their support behind the candidate of their choosing)-but instead, state the facts and let each person judge for themselves. I am not a Barr supporter, but I do not feel that I should try to push the Barr supporters to get behind the candidate I have chosen, as my second choice to Ron Paul. Everyone should use their best judgement and decide for themselves.

Also, I disagree with your statement that the only way to get the message into the general election is thru Mr Barr. The poll posted on revolution broadcasting (last time I checked it) was overwhelmingly more for Baldwin that Barr. Also, I have other reasons to believe Baldwin stands as good a chance, if not better, in case Ron Paul does not get the nomination. I personally wish we would start seeing a lot more posts like the one I saw last night of people who are running for Congress, and other state positions at this point. Please stop shoving Mr Barr in our faces every time we turn around, if anything, by your pushiness, you will only drive people away from him, rather than encourage them to consider him, so you are really only hurting your candidate in this matter.

Ron Paul must be a neo con

Ron Paul must be a neo con shill for Bob Barr then since he is encouraging him to spread the message. LOL You can't reason with some people here so just save your breath. Everythings a conspiracy.

I honestly don't know what I'm going to do. I may write in RP. I just can't take the immaturity anymore.

RP 2008! (or whomever he endorses 08)

hey duffy. did Ron Paul endorse Barr?

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Do what Ron Paul would do

Do what Ron Paul would do and don't write-in.

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It's becoming so transparent what a Government Neocon Bob Barr

is just judging from the velocity of the pro-Bob Barr shills hitting on Ron Paul supporters. In comparison to the half-ass McCain shills, this is a full-on Neocon-funded attack.

I haven't read one single post

by anyone supporting John McCain here or even being nice about him.

That's wrong imo. They just really hate Bob Barr. And don't believe in strategic voting or lesser of two evils voting.

So cut off your nose to

So cut off your nose to spite your face? No problem just hand the keys to Obama then.

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Barr is our best option

Baldwin= zero name recognition, no media exposure, only on the ballots in 35 states, very minimal chance of being in debates

Paul Write-In= useless, Paul himself said such

Barr= most name recognition out of potential liberty candidates, most potential media exposure, on 48-49 state ballots, good chance of being in the debates, experienced campaign manager in Russ Verney (Perot campaign manager in '92)

I think the choice is clear. Any alternate ideas or suggestions?

Good luck & congratulations

Good luck & congratulations if you can get Barr elected-but there are many, many people who are not going to even consider him, because of too many issues. If you are really serious about your candidate, it might be more productive to try elsewhere-thanks for letting us know about him, we do understand he is running, and if there is one thing we have all learned thru this election particularly), it is NOT to let someone else pick the candidate you should vote for, but instead use your own respective God-given brain to think and decide for yourself. I strongly suspect many, if not most of us will be voting our conscience in this election, and true we may not win, but at least we will know we voted for who we believed in.

Barr voted FOR the USA un-Patriot Act

You're right, the choice is clear, and that choice is to cast our vote for someone other than Barr. Go lick Bob Barr's boots somewhere else.

Ron Paul Our Hero

We are going to be fighting tooth and nail for the man as we always will. But the fact of the matter is that there is a high probability of him not receiving the nomination. Therefore, we need to start thinking ahead and start supporting the candidate that will best get our views widely noticed and heard. We need to start spreading our love to other candidates other than Ron who won't be around forever who are beneficial to our movement. We need to be thinking in terms of cost-benefit analysis for the long term..

FACT:

I'm sick up to here with Bob 'Patriot Act' Barr! He voted for it so he could fight against it! What the hell ever, dude. So take your implication that people opposed to Bob Baaaarrrff support McCain by default, and shove it up your ass, OK?

This site is for Ron Paul for President, and it will continue in that mien until AFTER the convention, at which point we will either be preparing for the general election or getting our people into office all over the country.

After that, if Ron is not the nominee, we will begin planning for 2012. Maybe if we're real nice we can convince Dr. Paul to run again. More likely he will decline, which is our loss, not his. Maybe his son???

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

I second that emotion lpviper

Ron Paul, Rand Paul, no one else can fill those shoes.

Talk is cheap. Bob Barrrrff is a creep.

Well Said

Bob Barr is our best choice. Barr has the most name recognition, the more experienced campaign manager in Verney, is the nominee for the third most recognized political party, gets the most media exposure, and Ron Paul has said he likes Bob. How could anyone vote against that with any legitimate argument while at the same time bringing about more awareness to our views?

Please explain

You haven't sold us on anything, Barr's voting record speaks for itself. Please explain Barr's YES votes on Sarbanes-Oxley, No Child Left Behind, Iraq War Resolution, Patriot Act, and the Homeland Security Act.

Fact:

I'm sick up to here with Bob 'Patriot Act' Barr! He voted for it so he could fight against it! What the hell ever, dude. So take your implication that people opposed to Bob Baaaarrrff support McCain by default, and shove it up your ass, OK?

This site is for Ron Paul for President, and it will continue in that mien until AFTER the convention, at which point we will either be preparing for the general election or getting our people into office all over the country.

After that, if Ron is not the nominee, we will begin planning for 2012. Maybe if we're real nice we can convince Dr. Paul to run again. More likely he will decline, which is our loss, not his. Maybe his son???

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

updated

updated

Something else you can add...

In the Situation Room interview, Paul said he's "encouraging him" to run.

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Im concerned that this whole Barr thing has become personal

at DP for you two. I worry that youre neglecting your other quarry over at the other candidate forums...on 2nd thought stay here where we can keep an eye on ya. Its a long way to November- and the truth is whoever RP publicly endorses (after the convention) will steal the thunder. I know you say you need to get your 15% NOW- but its a peice of smoke. you can get 20%-but the exodus starts when RP says the word- and guess what..this election is different. Even if there was only one 3rd party candidate with 3% theyd change the rules to look as balanced as possible this time and let him in. They just wouldnt give him as much time.

Regardless of who we like

and want to vote for. We need to spread the message of RP Liberty CAmpaign. I would like to see Barr and Baldwin promote the Liberty Campaign,..we could donate money to the Liberty Campaign than RP can decide where the money goes...the candidate who walks the walk.

I would actually enjoy

Some Chuck Baldwin (Constitutional Party) Trolls on this site. You know a good balance. To bad that their is none on the Neo-Con payroll.

Guess we can all hope..lol. Better yet I'm glad they aren't

http://baldwin2008.com/

I'll post occasionally in

I'll post occasionally in Baldwin's behalf, but I don't have any desire to emulate the tactics of the Barr-Bots.

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Don't you see?

It's the attacks that fuel us. Personally, I'm driven to increase my postings about Barr the more I'm attacked, or he's attacked. If there were no attacks, I probably wouldn't even be mentioning him much at all. I love the fight and thrive on conflict. And, we're all better off for it, because it brings out all the information about Barr, whether good or bad. I personally don't care whether the information is good or bad, or something makes Barr look bad - as long as it's honest - because if he turns out to be a bad guy, I'll just switch to Baldwin, and so on. I have no faithful allegiance to anyone. I'm only faithful to expanding liberty.

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Your attitude of

wanting to troll for Barr here is a clear example of a sheer sick mind, unstable at that.

Your credibility is below zero, your senseless posts are a reflection of your value: zilch, nada!!! You're too mindless to see that that? if he needs useless trolls like you, credibility in Barr is zilch, nada.
(BTW: there is help out there for you: get a vaccine, any vaccine!)

You are one with a very immature mind. Instead of putting all this troll energy in really working for Barr, your only enjoyment seems to be pestering and being a nuissance (these are for the sake of a better word). Not good for Barr at all. You turn people away from Barr instead.

Welcome everyone to the one and only choice: Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!

Liar. You're a paid shill.

Paid with dirty dirty money.

Common Sense People

This bedr1 charactor (no matter how many names are used) is clearly not a "troll" and is trying to help the revolution. We need Bob Barr in the debates, on prime time news, in peoples faces. That is so obvious. Why? Becasue if we don't make this happen guess what 2 guys will be in everyone's faces for the next 4 1/2 months. More of the same corrupt Washington candidates. I joined this site very late, however I just discovered it recently. When we joined Daily Paul is irrevelant. We all have a passion for liberty and freedom!!! We all must come together in order to change this country!!! Enough of the "Troll" bullshit name calling!!

Absolutelypositivelycorrect!!

Absolutelypositivelycorrect!!!!! AMEN!

VOTE THIRD PARTY!
LIBERALS, VOTE NADER. CONSERVATIVES, VOTE BARR(OR BALDWIN). ITS THAT SIMPLE.

"There's somethin' happenin' here..."

I AGREE!

I WAS THINKING 23% OF US SHOULD VOTE BOB BARR 22.5% of us write in Ron Paul, 22% vote Baldwin, 7% OF US VOTE NADER
and the other 5% Obama and 5% McCain!!!!

THE CONSTITUTION PARTY ISN'T ENOUGH, WE NEED A PARTY FOR MUSLIM LIBERTARIAN, JEWISH LIBERTARIANS, AND BUDDIST LIBERTARIANS. i WAS THINKING WE ALSO NEED A PRO-LIBERTY/CONSTITUTION PARTY THAT LOVES JESUS BUT HATES ICE CREAM. We MUST distinguish the CP from ice cream lovers and ice cream haters!!!!!!!!

WE REALLY NEED TO DIVIDE OURSELVES EVEN MORE!!!!
MAYBE IN 100 YEARS WE WILL HAVE 239782987 PRO-LIBERTY/CONSTITUTION PARTIES THAT WILL NEVER EVER GET ELECTED!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY FOR US~!!!!!!!!!!!! PROGRESS PROGRESS PROGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE NEED A RON PAUL PARTY TO RUN CANDIDATES IN PARALLEL TO THE REPUBLICANS. THE CP AND THE LP. COME TO THINK OF IT, RALPH NADER NEEDS A REALLY GREEN PARTY SO HE CAN RUN AGAINST THEM AND THE GREEN PARTY. THIS WAY THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM WILL KEEP ITS POWER FOREVER. THE END.

sorry for the caps.

What's your alternative?

People here who hate Barr so much don't seem to know anything except they will write in Ron Paul. What is that going to achieve and are you happy just to concede that yes McCain will win and then we get Dick Cheney looking over his shoulder for the next 4 to 8 years? OMG.

All you do is say "no, no, no" and don't know what else to do.

I think that this is a great idea and you were being sarcastic. People should be working out where write-ins count and posting a list and where McCain is vulnerable so people can decide to vote LP there to keep him out and then I think we should get behind the CP everywhere else. The more votes 3rd parties steal the better, even if the vote is split. If people think there is some purpose they will be more likely to vote 3rd party. Otherwise they think 'it's a wasted vote'.

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Maybe they don't like Barr's negative comments on McCain

in the CSPAN video, which is posted on the front page of Barr's website. www.BobBarr2008.com

By the way, he's going to be interviewed today by Cavuto on FNC at 4:20 EDT.

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f#ck McCain

that all I got to say I'm in for Barr.

bobbarrforums.com

Good for you...did you check your brain at the door?

I share your sentiment on McCain. BUT...

....how about I kick your ass just so I can help patch you up later? You know, trounce you to the floor, kick you, walk on you....then I give you a band-aid and clean you up a bit so I can say "I only did it so I could help later..."

Cause that's what the candidate you just said you're going to vote for did to our Constitution and the protections of our rights it affords.

I hear ya..

Just as a thought. What do you feel about Chuck Baldwin?

I am still NOTA or Write in at the present.

Do you know what the ballot

Do you know what the ballot situation is with Barr? I've seen Baldwin's. In Oklahoma the deadline has past. In a lot others he can't even start yet.

I think Barr's biggest Achilles heel is WAR. He has to go. Someone suggested Ventura but I don't see it happening.

We are definitely fracturing at this point. I wonder if they could broker a coalition ticket and compromise. Run a Barr/Baldwin ticket. Would that end this in-fighting that is killing us?

I thing the point has been made here that debate access is the next hurdle. So unless Baldwin get some serious action by those that prefer him over Barr. Or the debate access standard are drastically altered Barr may be the only one capable of debate access.

Personally, I don't think that one guy can have a lasting effect in the debates. I believe we need to match or better what the establishment is putting out there. The establishment will pretend to have differences but we all know they are about the same thing only in different ways.

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Winja actually its not that bad

Most of the misinformed are mainly on the DP because there are some McCain trolls on here trying to stop Barr from gaining momentum but its not working Barr is doing well.

I recognize all the names here hating Barrrrf

and they loathe McCain as well. You're not making any recruits, ha ha!

Ron Paul for President 2008

We are continuing the Ron Paul grassroots campaign regardless of what the Barr disinfo trolls want--which is for our movement to fracture due to the derision and division that they are breeding.

We will be marching for Ron Paul's (not Bob Barr's) Campaign for Liberty in Washington, D.C. on July 12th.

We will be packing the place at Williams Arena, hanging from the rafters in Minneapolis, MN on September 2nd.

The R3VOLution continues!

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By all means press on. It

By all means press on. It still won't end the in-fighting.

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I could not have

said it better myself, JKap...

On with the Campaign....

Pro-McCain.

That's a good one. Only pro McCain people I have run across are Dual-Citizen Isralie Neo-Cons who have taken over the GOP.

Definition of a Troll

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

THIS AIN'T THE DAILY BARR.

Oruval really and how long have you been on the Daily Paul

You were the 9,900 plus to sign on, I was number 833.

Now as to your definition when Dr Paul has said something such as "he hopes Barr has a better campaign for President than he did" that puts. Barr in play on the DP.

However as to trolls I consider the group of 3-4 people that joined the DP right when Barr was nominated and then began to trash Barr, as the MCCain hired guns.

Since I found out about Ron Paul

In November 07.

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We can all say what needs to be done, but who here led by example today?

Number 833, huh..... AND

Number 833, huh..... AND number 834, 875, 888, 987, 1006, 1100,. 1454, 1587, 1643, 1701.... seriously, Billy Dee...exactly how many user names HAVE you used?

Bob Barr is a neocon plant who voted for the patriot act and the Iraq war. He is a traitor to the Constitution and actually has supported McCain in the past. FU*K BOB BARR!!!

"Doc" Holladay
Nashville, TN

doc holiday obviously you can't say anything imtelligent

go back to the McCain camp you only recently joined this forum - you have much to learn and you need help with proper language

ha ha bedr1 - your only defense is anyone that loathes Barrrf

must love McCain. You are completely brainless. I pity your empty skull that a brain wishes it could sit in.

I like Barr

But I notice that the coalition we built under Dr. Paul doesn't seem to be translating. We seem to be fracturing.

I don't think Barr is 1/2 the man Dr. Paul is but considering the alternatives that would be more than enough. Furthermore, while Barr has voted in the past against things I love and for things I hate his recent change of heart gives me hope that not all Washington insiders are beyond salvation.

Remember, Dr. Paul ran as a libertarian in '88 so the LP is not inconsistent with this movement and Barr is the LP nominee. I will probably vote Barr because he will be on the ballot and I can be sure my vote will actually be counted (write-in's are iffy in most states and may not even be tallied). I know Barr is a long shot too but at least my protest vote is sure to be recorded. Maybe the the Repugnantcan party will shif back to it's pre-80's position.

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You can be sure huh? That's a good one.

"I can be sure my vote will actually be counted (write-in's are iffy in most states and may not even be tallied)."

You can be sure huh? Actually be counted huh? That's a good one.

Bipartisan black box Stalinist-style elections have corrupted the integrity of the vote. How can you be sure that your vote will be recorded accurately and “counted” in secret using proprietary software even if you vote for a ballot-qualified candidate in the general election? You can't.

Might as well vote for the only candidate for liberty and the Constitution, you know, the one that all the Barr trolls allege that they supported before they got on board with an ex-al CIA-da neocon to breed derision and division within the Ron Paul R3VOLution.

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Okay I'm skeptical too but...

Until I see hard evidence I'm not going to go off half-cocked. The potential for abuse does not guarantee abuse.

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I recognize your name as a Barrrrf troll

So stfu about being skeptical. You're here to recruit. Ain't happening. Haha!