all silver bugs,must read
Numbers and greed without limit
By The Mogambo Guru
Ed Steer, who is called "correspondent-at-large" at Casey Research, says, "I see that the derivatives market expanded 44% last year (according to the BIS) and now sits at US$596 trillion dollars ... that's spelled with a 't'. If this pace keeps up, by this time next year, total derivatives will exceed one quadrillion dollars ... that's spelled with a 'q'!!!"
Those of us who are chillingly familiar with the implications implied by three exclamation points gulp in horror. My daughter says, "What are you so afraid of, you Big Mogambo Sissy (BMS)!" and when she laughed at me, I realized that she is right! With a fiat currency, maybe all things ARE possible!
Trying heroically to calm down, I take another look at the
sentence, and I can't help but note that global gross domestic product is only about $50 trillion or so, while the BIS (Bank for International Settlements) says that derivatives alone total $596 trillion, which is staggering enough, but then one's brain is overloaded with the concept of a quadrillion dollars! $1,000,000,000,000,000.00!
When you divide one quadrillion dollars by the measly 100 million workers in the USA who have a non-government job (and thus are the only ones capable of turning a profit through high value-added work), this comes to the amazing sum of $10,000,000.00 for each American worker! Bets are made that total 10 million bucks per private sector worker! How the hell can such bets pay off?
For the derivatives market to make a profit of 1% is equivalent to $1 million per worker! Hahahaha! It's so insane that it doesn't make any sense, and that is why you soon find your brain whirling, whirling, whirling and you whimper and cry in terror of the unknown and the terrifying unknowable.
Mr Steer is made of sterner stuff than Big Crybaby Mogambo (BCM), and instead of screaming and crying like a little wuss, he calmly summarizes with "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto ..."
And since we are already talking about derivatives and how I am such a wimp, David Morgan of silver-investor.com boldly says that he can "prove perhaps ONE HUNDRED TIMES the amount of silver exists on paper than exists in the physical world."
This affected me enormously; I don't know why. Maybe because I am so scared and paranoid at the economic horror that is looming in our future that I have been drinking heavily and consuming various medications in various quantities just so I can stop screaming, screaming, screaming in horror about inflation in prices, which is always (and necessarily) caused by an inflationary increase in the money supply, which is all thanks to the banks, the damned banks, the damned greedy banks.
But the prospect of 100 ounces of silver being sold short for every ounce of silver in existence was so exciting that I immediately noticed that I was grinning from ear to ear and that my hands were shaking at the Very, Very Happy Prospect (VVHP) of being on the squeezing side of a big short squeeze for a change! Hahaha!
Spontaneously, I started singing in joy, my Melodious Mogambo Voice (MMV) ringing through the spring air as I warbled that old time favorite, "We're in the money! We're in the money! We got a lot of what it takes to get along, because I have silver, and now for once in my pathetic, wretched life, I am going to be the squeezer, while some other sorry bastard is going to be the squeeze, and he'll lose his butt for a change, while we're in the money! We're in the money!"
Everybody was just kind of agog, looking at me with their stupid mouths hanging open, which I innocently mistook for interest and a desire for more, so the second verse went "We're in the money! We're in the money! We got a lot of what it takes to get along and hire lots of lawyers to file lots of nuisance lawsuits against my enemies, like my wife and kids, whom I sue just to show my OTHER enemies the kind of relentless, heartless, grudge-carrying bastard that I am so that they might more accurately anticipate the kind of non-stop, legal butt-kicking they can expect when I finally get around to them, which I will, because I got lots and lots of silver and I can afford it now that we're in the money! We're in the money!"
Mr Morgan, as I gather from his lack of response to my fabulous song-and-dance act, is not a big fan of spontaneous musical theater, and neither applauded nor put any money in the hat I had conveniently placed on the ground in front of me, along with the helpful little placard that said "Put money in this hat!"
Instead, you could tell by the tone of his voice that he was singularly unimpressed, and went on to reiterate, "The derivatives markets are alive and well in both silver and gold", which is again made obvious when he says, "there is roughly one hundred ounces 'claimed' on paper for every physical ounce of silver."
And not only that, but Ed Steer of GATA puts it as "David Morgan of SilverInvestor.com and The Morgan Report today may have settled the question of manipulation of the silver market. In his new essay, 'Silver Price Manipulation,' Morgan notes that while there is no limit on the creation of paper promises to deliver silver on the New York Commodities Exchange, the exchange limits silver deliveries to 7.5 million ounces per month. That is, the exchange's rules are overwhelmingly stacked in favor of those shorting the metal."
Mr Morgan says that this answers the question, "'Why doesn't some big investor come along and just buy up the remaining silver?" He says that the answer is that "It cannot be done. There are delivery limits now! Let me repeat!! It cannot be done, there are delivery limits NOW!!"
Even more ominously, he says, "Oh, you might ask, 'Is there any limit to the amount of silver that can be sold on paper?'"
Ominously, he explains that the answer is "no", "there is no limit to the amount of paper silver that can be created!", which is bad enough, but apparently there is no limit on the amount of silver to be loaned, either, as Jason Hommel of the silverstockreport.com says that "If The Perth [Western Australian] Mint is storing your metal, they admit that they may have loaned your metal out to AGR Matthey", which in turn, he says, shows that "AGR Matthey has well-established relationships with the major bullion banks and regularly supplies to them on a contractual basis." What? Hahahaha!
And the proof is allegedly found in the notation that "The $880 million of precious metals deposited by Perth Mint Depository clients (note 17) was used in operations by Gold Corporation as inventory ($381 million - Note 8b)."
Unbelievably, this looks like they are taking your money and buying silver for you, and then loaning the silver to people who sell it, dumping it on the market, driving the price of silver down, which is the opposite of what you wanted when you bought the Perth Mint certificates! Hahahaha! What a scam! Ugh.
Richard Daughty is general partner and COO for Smith Consultant Group, serving the financial and medical communities, and the editor of The Mogambo Guru economic newsletter - an avocational exercise to heap disrespect on those who desperately deserve it.
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Question about Silver
I have been buying some coins as I can find them but I have
also been going to garage sales and picking up allot of sterling silver which is .925 in content in the form of jewelry, flatware and serving pieces. I'm picking up this stuff for little or nothing compared to what I have to pay for the coins.
I was wondering what other people's thoughts where about buying silver in this form instead of coins ?
I might add I'm also doing this with gold..amazing how many people sell 14K jewelry for little or nothing.
Link, please
Context is everything. Besides, printing the whole thing is disrespectful of the source.
IMissLiberty
Here's a link.......
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.....out of the Asia Times for the article this thread is based on:
http://www.atimes.com/ati...
I found it on Steve Quayle's excellent site:
http://www.stevequayle.co...
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Here's an article along the same lines:
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Dynamics Of The Silver Price Revolution - by Vincent Bressler
Here's the first paragraph:
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
If you follow the silver prices on eBay, you know he is correct.
$23/$25 and ounce is what it's going for.
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Lisa C.
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I knew it
When I was over there I tried to purchase silver. Couldn't due to a massive shortage. They were only selling 100 ounce bars.
100oz bars are getting harder to come by.
Think I might have mentioned earlier in this post that a guy went to a dealer in Vancouver and was told he'd have to get on a waiting list for the bars and, even then, he couldn't guarantee delivery.
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Lisa C.
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I wonder
Why it flipped. I'm just buying up all i can right now while its cheap. In December of last year I think the price was about 12-14 dollars. Now at the current leveling the price is 16 dollar per 1 ounce. Without ask and bid price's nor purchasing price that is still a 2 dollar profit. Buy if you can. I am not a pumper nor dumper. Just stating fact.
slightly off topic...
But does anyone know anything about the silver used in solar panels? I work for a solar energy company, and my boss just gave me permission to salvage the silver in the busted pv modules we have sitting around our warehouse : ) . No idea how pure the metal is... I assume it is pretty pure, since silver is known for it's conductivity.
If it's electrical, there's silver in it somewhere.
There are companies that will pay to salvage that silver.
Read a couple of days ago about a company that is going to produce gigantic mirrors coated in silver -- miles of surface space on these things for solar thermal power generation. Tens of thousands of ounces of silver will be needed for the coating.
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Lisa C.
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A crash is coming, warns the Royal Bank of Scotland.
Some of you might have already seen this.
http://www.telegraph.co.u...
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Lisa C.
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Lisa,
I read something that scared the bejesus out of me yesterday. Luckily, I downloaded it before it disappeared. If you want a copy, contact me, and I'll forward it to you. You too, Sierra.
Uh, May I Have It Please?
Now I'm dying to know.
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Can I get it too?
bardgee@gmail.com
Pretty pretty please? =)
yes please e_ send it to me
yes please e_ send it to me PLEASE!
for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
sierra, check your email
and I'll send that to you when I get up.
Did it my friend! as for me
Did it my friend!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I'll take a copy of that...if you please...I love a scary read.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
melgesman,
see my post to sierra directly above this one.
Sounds good e_
Too scary to post here or you can't post due to technical reasons?
iamvoting4ronpaul (at) mac.com
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copyrighted,
by a group I don't want to screw with. Will head out in a few minutes. If you have sierra's, akak's, kat's, etc. forward it to them as well.
LOL! I just saw your real name.
I forget sometimes that people actually do have names.
However, I am thinking of actually changing mine to "IamVoting4RonPaul".
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Lisa C.
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Can help with akak and kat but not SIERRA.
Look forward to reading it.
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cool
just sent. I've got to go offline now. If you notice Sierra around tonight, point him my way. Take it easy, Lisa.
thanks e_, looks interesting.
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e_goldstein linked to this yesterday.
Still good. Love The Mogambo Guru!
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Lisa C.
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Please folks read
Please folks read this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.investmentrari...
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
so
If silver is needed for manufacturing on a larger and larger global scale besides being desirable, doesn't it have to correct sometime. Wouldn't the price blow through the roof when someone finally says "where is my silver?"
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."
exactly.. this is why
exactly.. this is why everyone should take delivery! taking delivery is the only thing that will stop this shell game.. if you can't touch it you don't own it! the game for the greedy jerks at the mints, the etf's and the paper shorts is almost over and they will lose bigtime!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
ok
Ok I see, I guess it could even come about if a decent amount of people want to take delivery of it and the suppliers are forced to say, "we don't have it". The word would get out quickly. I was still keeping the faith in buying, this just makes me feel better about it. I mean was it not Dr Paul who worked on a bill that allowed Congress to mint silver and gold in order to help the people.
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."
if 1000 people placed an
if 1000 people placed an order for 1000 ounces each at the same time and demanded delivery, it would break the silver manipulation!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I feel you are right...
But the "secret" has been out for a while given Hommel's and Butler's reports and still we haven't "heard" about it in the mainstream press...hmmmm. Rhino will have some innocuous reason for this, for it certainly can't be "conspiracy". Conspiracy would require more than two people sitting in conference and making decisions about allowing or governing short selling of unbacked paper as well as physical delivery limits...all in an effort to control and defraud...naaaa...couldn't happen.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
The Plunge Protection Team (PPT) is real.
Created by Reagan -- the President's "Working Group on Financial Markets". They absolutely intervene in the stock market. A group also intervenes in the precious metals market. Gold and platinum used to trade on par but look at the disconnect now. Look at the historical ratio of ounces of gold/barrels of oil. Note how gold gets "trashed" on days when oil goes nuts or there is bad economic news. This is totally counterintuitive and doesn't reflect gold's history as a safe-haven.
Gold and silver must be kept under control to keep the sheep from panicking. Some of us have already bolted and recognize what's ahead.
Silver, BTW, is trading in the low to mid $20s on eBay. The paper "Kitco" price is not the price people are paying in the real world.
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i would venture that there
i would venture that there is only .05% of 1% of the population that knows anything about this.. I told a guy about it 4 years ago.. silver was at 5.00 I told him to buy, gave him butlers book... he brought it back to me and said its just taking up space on my kitchen table... now the dork wishes he would have listened! its a great feeling when you see the guy and he's just waiting for me to say see I told ya so but being the first class nice person I am I just sit there knowing that soon I will be worth mega bucks and retired and he'll still be working for FRN that are devalueing daily! he would have made 400% on his money! I have told atleast 10 people and only one took the advice!
so the answer to your wuestion is.. not to many people know of this but it will get out soon and it won't make any difference because there will be no metal to buy at any price. the industial users will get theres, but the regular folks like us won't. this is why Silver eagles are not being produced to meet demand because us government is trying to delay the panic and the default that the CFTC will be directly responcible for because that government agency was derelict in their duty! its gonna get interesting!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Don't worry 'bout me...
I saw the writing on the wall a while ago and am well situated in silver...I just wonder when the "paper vs. physical" divergence will come into parity.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
Bump!
After reading this, does everyone understand why you should take physical possession of your gold and silver?
and after reading this you
and after reading this you will really know why!
http://www.investmentrari...
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I read the article.......
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.....and found it very informative.
But where did you come up with the grand-an-ounce figure, and how soon do you think MAY happen?
By the way, I'm also aware of the distorted gold/silver ratio we now have, so I'm guessing that may be part of your reasoning?
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
Patrick, go to
Patrick,
go to www.butlerresearch.com read butlers essays that go back about 1 year.. butlers mentor in silver is a guy named Isreal Freidman. he is the one who got Ted Butler into silver.. he says at some point silver and gold will be equall in price.. there is only 1 billion ounces of silver.. silver is used to make many many many goods! there are 6 billion ounces of gold.. so which metal is more rare? which metal is more precious! as you can see silver has much catching up to do! because of the US government dumping its 3 billion ounce surplus on the market for the past 25+ years it supressed the price. miners couldn't mine it so that surplus is now Gone.. and in the past 25 years uses for silver have gone berserk! medical, electrical, you name it silver is used and consumed.. Ted Butler wioll tell you all you need to know.. now when this will happen is anyones guess! but I think within 2 years! Now with silver you are getting investment demand becuase of the falling dollar.. more demand with less and less silver available.. go see what palladium did... it went from 60.00/ounce to 1200.00 when ford motor started buying/hoarding because of a shortage for cataletic converters .. silver is much more important than palladium!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Thanks, SIERRA
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I was talking to my brother yesterday and he said there's a possibility the government will clamp down on the futures markets in a socialist attempt at controlling prices. He heard that this could temp crash the commodities.
Anyone heard this scenario or have comments?
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
People that come up with figures look at historical ratios
for one thing. How many ounces of gold to buy a barrel of oil or a median priced home among other things Silver, if you look at its historical ratio to gold (how many ounces of silver = one ounce of gold) silver should be selling for nearly $45/oz (20:1 ratio and spot price on 18 JUN 10:18 GMT+10).
The Royal Bank of Scotland issued a press release today warning of an imminent financial crash, so we may be closer than we think. I don't think about "when" so much when I know "why".
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Lisa C.
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Sierra, thanks for the link
It's exciting, isn't it?
yep gill i think if a person
yep gill i think if a person has just 20 k invested, they will be able to retire with no debt and be able to take care of there grandkids! this thing will be huge! but for seem reason people just pooh pooh it.. it ehy would take the 3 or 4 days to read and study and understand the naked short/derivative market on silver you will see the default that is looming!
no question this is the chance of our lifetime to hit it big! and be able to take care of your childrens children and ofcourse support Ron Paul and the liberty movement.. I bet Ron Paul would pee his pants when I present him a check for 1 million for his new liberty foundation! I can't wait!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Yes........
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My wife keeps wanting to sell SOME to pay off some debt, but although we DO need to pay off a lot of debt, the rise in the value of gold/silver - I believe - has and will be rising in value more than the interest on the debt we are paying.
Hmmmmmmm, methinks I will hold on to it all.
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Patrick
Patrick, take the number
Patrick,
take the number of ounces of silver you have times 1000.... hopefully you will have so much money to pay all your debts but also have enough to retire on! yes folks 1000 dollar an ounce silver... I said it! I stand by it!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I hope you are correct............but........
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.........I fear that there will be chaos in the streets at that point from the economy being in full turmoil.
BUT, I'd rather be holding silver at that point than paper.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida
remember.. silver has the
remember.. silver has the prefect storm around it.. it would not make any difference if times were good economically or not.. shortage, largest naked short position of ANY commodity, investment demand, and the metal is consumed unlike gold! Please read this carefulkly and understand..
http://www.investmentrari...
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD