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The zionist thread continued. By Rhino.

Starting to see a lot of anti-Zionist literature posted here.

Thought it would be a good topic for discussion.

Personally, and it may be unjustly on my part, anytime I see this topic as being important to someone, I have a tendency to label that person a bigot in my own brain.

Am I wrong?

Updated:

Does a Jew not have the right to fight within any means necessary to protect his/her interests?

Why is Zionism being attacked and not congress for bowing to the will of the Zionists?

There is nothing wrong with a Zionist. There is a lot wrong with our government endorsing Zionism.

So why go after the Zionists?

It reeks of bigotry.

We all have our roles.

The original thread with an altered title is below. I did not alter the title. The powers that be did.

NOTE: Yes - the powers that be altered the title, and did again because the powers that be OWN THIS WEBSITE. If you're smart, you get the message. If not, you can take your conversation elsewhere. The internet is a big place.

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There are REAL Jews

and then there are the Khazars, the fake jews ( zionists ) thier agenda is to control the world. Jesus mentioned them several times in the bible. Those who say they are jews, but are not, they lie. These Khazars changed the torah into the talmid. I wonder in the true jewish lineage if there were any blond haired blue eyed jews? I dont think so. It's not hate, man. It's a fact that 2/3rds of our elected officials hold dual Israeli citizenship. You cannot efficiently serve your country and serve another. You will love one and hate the other. Now which is it?

I want to bring this one back.

For the record, may original thread title was named "The Jew thread".

We all have our roles.

Hey dip shit.

You say that you are pointing us in the right direction. How are riddles and inflamatory threads about the jewish religion as well as bothering people and conversations with redundant meaning less questioning considered focusing us in the right direction.?

ANSWER THAT QUESTION????

Wait I already have for you.

The internet "IS" a big place. So please, do something constructive and get lost.

The problem comes in not defining terminology or confusing it

ZIONISM is a political cause and a doctrine of political nature. Like socialism, communism, fascism, democratism, etc. Many ethnic Jews are atheists (not Jewish by religion) and yet also political Zionists. Also, many non-Jews are ardent Zionists (Pat Robertson and much of evangelical Christianity, for example).

Judaism is a religion, like Islam, Mormonism, Methodist, etc. Its adherents may or may not be ethnically Jewish. They may or may not be Israelis. Most practicing religious Jews are not Israelis. Many are not Zionists. Some are.

Don't get Jews (race), Israelis (nationality), Judaism (religion), and Zionism (politics) confused. That would be like thinking white people (race), Americans (nationality), Mormonism (religion), and Republicanism (politics) are all equivalent and synonymous. While there is certainly overlap between the various groups, they are not equivalent.

I am mostly Caucausian but part Jewish by race, American by Nationality, Mormon by Religion, and Constitutionalist by political identity.

Not all Jews are Israelis. Not all Jews believe in Judaism. Some are atheists. Some are Christian. Not all Israelis believe in Judaism. Not all Jews, Judaists, or Israelis are necessarily political Zionists.

Well thank you for that

clarification... I was getting a little confused here....I have nothing against Jewish people. I know there's youtube videos about Judaism against Zionism....soooo, I thought they were 2 separate things...but people sure seem p o'd on this topic....if they're not the same thing, why all the anger??

Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can no longer post it in the

title.

My original title was, "A jew thread". This was edited without my permission. And my name was not taken off the title, which I requested, since it is no longer the title that I posted.

This is for the record only. The keymasters can do as they choose.

I do wish to apologize if I have offended anyone, but I felt it to be an important topic.

We all have our roles.

Rofl

I never understood why some people are so irrational when it comes to anything to do with Judaism. It's like they have a squirrel in their pants.

As we

know Zionism is the political movement that called for and now wants to maintain a political independent state for Jews. There is nothing wrong with that and can be supported. There are lots of Jews supporting Ron Paul in the US, Israel etc. Let us make them feel welcome, just as with Arabs that also want an own state in Palestine.

The problem comes with the all powerful AIPAC that wants the US to give a preferential role to Israel and to be always partial to Israel, instead of a neutrality.
So the problem is with the domination.

Rhino doesn't even want to

Rhino doesn't even want to use the word "Zionist"--not inflammatory enough. He wants to use the term "Jews", from what I read of his posts.

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That is correct.

It is not accurate.

Or at least with what I want to talk about.

We all have our roles.

Sooo.... Rhino please just say it

Just what is it you want to talk about? What are you trying to get across here? What are you accusing us of and what is the point? I really dont understand. I dont judge or hate anyone based on religion or race.
This is not the "riddle" thread ...so come out and just say it instead of these three line cryptic comments. I will listen and so will others...just say it please and lets have it done!

Agreed ...

but have you not hit on the links posted as of late?

There is bigotry that can not be seen on this site unless you are vigilent.

I wish to bring transparent discussion upon it.

We all have our roles.

I am REALLY sick of this thread.

I did not want to comment because it would only bump it but it keeps getting bumped anyway. I am Jewish and I do NOT like the anti-semitic tone this post takes. I do not believe it belongs in a Ron Paul forum, and it is going to turn me off from coming here, if it continues. These are personal biases and have NO place continually thrown in the faces of Jewish RP followers. ENOUGH.

Hear, hear!

Agreed. Part Jewish by blood myself. 100% Ron Paul supporter.

I agree. I don't even know

I agree. I don't even know what Rhino is attempting to express here pro or con, but I do not appreciate the Forum being hijacked for this purpose. This is different from discussing controversial topics like 9-11 Truth.

Rhino, if you start a thread with the word "n*gger" in the title next, we will be writing Nystrom to ask for your head.

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Are you saying that the word "jew" is

derogatory?

We all have our roles.

Many Jews themselves think it is, in some circumstances

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

Changes in use

The word Jew has been used often enough in a disparaging manner by antisemites that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries it was frequently avoided altogether, and the term Hebrew was substituted instead (e.g. Young Men's Hebrew Association). Even today some people are wary of its use, and prefer to use "Jewish". Indeed, when used as an adjective (e.g. "Jew lawyer") or verb (e.g. "to Jew someone"), the term Jew is purely pejorative. However, when used as a noun, "Jew" is preferred, as other circumlocutions (e.g. "Jewish person") give the impression that the term "Jew" is offensive in all contexts.
In much the same manner, Yiddish term for Jew (ייִד Yid, (singular), ייִדן Yidn (plural)) — originally a benign term — was once used as an ethnic slur, but now is often used by Jews in praise, to describe an upstanding religiously observant Jew (e.g., "He's such a Yid, giving up his time like that") or to distinguish upstanding religiously observant Jews from non-observant, with the implication that the latter would be better people if they were stricter in their observance (e.g., "Yidn wouldn't do such a thing").

In the past, the term "Jewess" was sometimes used for Jewish women. This word, like "Negress" is now at best an archaism, and is generally taken as an insult.

[end Wikipedia quote]

I am not a jew.

What is so offensive about it?

Would you prefer the anti zionistic subliminal links so that you could be persecuted in secret?

We all have our roles.

Consider the source Crickett

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...

Every one judges me.

That goes without spelling it out.

We all have our roles.

I agree.

I think it just comes across wrong. We need to say that we don't want congress taking orders from ANY special interest.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

how many hits would that get?

We all have our roles.

Touche

Touche

Unprecidented ... A threat from the monitor.

NOTE: Yes - the powers that be altered the title, and did again because the powers that be OWN THIS WEBSITE. If you're smart, you get the message. If not, you can take your conversation elsewhere. The internet is a big place.

I consider myself privledged.

We all have our roles.

For the record ...

My title has been altered without my permission.

This is allowed of course. But please take my name off the thread as well.

I am not the auther of this title.

We all have our roles.

Whatever you are attempting

Whatever you are attempting to say, the title should have been changed.

Stop playing games with Jew-bashing here. If I was Michael Nystrom, I would have already deleted the thread and your membership simultaneously.

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You obviously have not read my posts.

We all have our roles.

You're poisoning our well,

You're poisoning our well, to make some sort of point.

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I look at it as curing ...

apathy.

We all have our roles.

Elite's have always used religion as a body shield. DAAAAAAAAAA

“It is possible to fool all of the people all the time; when government and press cooperate.”
GEORGE SELDES (legendary investigative reporter, 1938)

“The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell the country for his daily bread… We are the tools and vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JOHN SWINTON (former Chief of Staff New York Times in his toast to the New York Press Club. Quote1880)

“Those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society constitute an Invisible Government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed; our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of.”
EDWARD L. BERNAYS (Sigmund Freud’s nephew and the father of psyops, mass spin control and modern propaganda. Bernay’s techniques sold WWI to Americans thru the “Committee on Public Information”. Josef Goebbels as Hitler's Minister of Propaganda was an avid fan of Bernay's work for the Third Reich. Bernays partnered with William Paley to run CBS. Edward Bernay’s work was also the foundation for CIA mass media manipulation via “Operation Mockingbird”. Quote: Bernay’s book “Propaganda” published 1928)

“Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
RICHARD SALENT (President CBS “News” division 1961-64 & 1966-79 )

"News is what someone wants to suppress. Everything else is advertising".
REUVEN FRANK (President NBC “News” from 1968-1972 & 1982-1984)

“You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month.”
PHILIP GRAHAM (editor of the Washington Post quoting his CIA operative source as he discussed the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. Quote 1991)

Ingrid please summarize ...

What are you trying to say.

We all have our roles.

The Jew thread? More attention seeking rhino?

You like to stir up the shit ,don't you rhino?

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...

I will not dictate your role ...

nor you mine.

We all have our roles.

I must of had an impact on your "role"

since you changed the title back to the "the Zionist thread" instead of "the Jew thread"
What is "your role" BTW?

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...

I did not.

read again. All of it.

If the owner changed it,than shouldn't that tell you something?

Tells me that he is on to your inflammatory,attention seeking, tactics.
Is that your role rhino?
I would probably take that as a warning shot across the bow.

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com...

This man is the biggest

This man is the biggest attention whore I have ever seen.

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It tells me that I have hit a nerve.

And I can appreciate that.

Would Dr. Paul walk away if he felt this to be important?

We all have our roles.

Yes, it hits a nerve because

Yes, it hits a nerve because you are making us look bad to outside eyes. I can only think of two potential reasons: (a) You are a neo-con mole, or (b) you have the maturity of an eight-year old.

I'm guessing it's (b). I don't care what your point is, whether you are anti-Semitic, or pro-Semitic. Cease this immediately.

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You are an ostrich.

I used to be one of those.

I have decided not to be one any more.

We all have our roles.

the real patriot act

exposing,identifying,arresting,prosecuting and upon conviction executing zionist traitors is not anti-semetic.it is however our lawful,constitutional and patriotic duty as americans to preserve,protect and defend our constitution and the republic it defines against all enimies, foriegn and domestic.
we also have a moral obligation to past,present and future generations of a truly free and independant people.
bohdan the patriot
for more info go to
www.ae911truth.org
www.patriotsquestion911.c...
www.whodidit.org
www.iamthewitness.com
www.prothink.org
please all patriots print up as many copies as possible and pass them out at this years jew-lie fourth parade in your local town

For those that do not know who you are ...

Please expain yourself.

Should we execute all zionists or only those that commit capital murder upon an individual?

We all have our roles.

zionist traitors

casa6969 if you read before you coment you will see that i clearly state "upon conviction executing zionist traitors is not anti;semetic" the 2 million innocent iraquis and all the other victims of zionist/mossad terror including the 3000 murdered on 9/11/2001 and the 60 million russian christians sent to there deaths in the gulags by the comunist jews in russia were never convicted of anything by any legal court. you are most definatly a zionist and probably a traitor as well. we will leave that up to the jury when the time comes. and believe me your time is coming

I await my day of reckoning.

And accept my unjustified fate.

We all have our roles.

and what about the 20 million ukrainians

casa6969 the russian zionist/jews also were insumental in the ukrainian famine under stalin in which at least 20 million were starved to death. and also the poor africans who who were shipped across the atlantic as cargo by jews in the slave trade. millions perished in horrific conditions. non of these souls had a trial before there untimely death.

Ah yes!!!

All the jews should be condemned and executed.

We all have our roles.

Trolls dont point you

in the right direction.

Then a troll ...

I am not.

we all have our roles.

zionist troll

casa6969 you are most certianly a zionist troll and most likly a traitor as well

I have nothing but ...

love, prayer, and pity to offer thee.

We all have our roles.