The fractured Revolution.

I do not think what you have said merits a "fractured" comparison. How about freedom of thought? I personally would never vote for Barr since he is just a cia plant as far as I am concerned. If I vote for anyone it will be to write in Ron Paul or maybe Chuck Baldwin. Nader is just a socialist waiting to explode in my opinion. But it really doesnt matter who you vote for, the results are already decided. The 2000 campaign was a wakeup call for the neocon zionist, the vote will forever be tainted as long as they are supplying voting machines with no paper trails.

should have a candidate running for President.
Ron Paul has ended his campaign, and as such our chances for getting a "Ron Paul" type candidate elected to President have been drastically reduced.

SHOULDN'T THE CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY HAVE A CONTENDER IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE? I NOMINATE/DRAFT JESSE VENTURA.

It should be obvious by now, that the RNC will never give Ron Paul the nomination. Only by supporting a 3rd party candidate like Jesse Ventura, can we reasonably hope to restore our constitution.

Ron Paul will not leave the Republican party, but we could elect someone who is in a 3rd party.

Time is short people, and pursuing a 1% chance with the RNC is more foolish than pursuing a 25% chance with Jesse Ventura on a third party ticket.

Dr. Paul has said many times that early on he knew his chances of winning were slim to none. He told us this early in the campaign. We all still rallied around him. Not because it is about him but because it is about the message.

I had the privilege of getting to vote for Dr. Paul the first time he ran for President. He is my Representative now and I am proud to vote for him every two years. With the events of this campaign people are starting to listen to him. It used to just be we libertarian kooks.

It is hard to lead a libertarian movement because libertarian minded people are not generally the kind of people who join "power organizations". Dr. Paul has shown us we are not alone in our beliefs. The Revolution belongs to us. Spread the message.

That is where this must lead in the end. Every one of us claiming our liberty, not waiting for Ron Paul or anyone else to lead us to it. The day WE end the Fed - ie, stop using their money and credit cards, is the day WE liberate ourselves. The Fed is the government is the NAU is the NWO... Every time we use their money, we reaffirm our slavehood.
I try to remember to "poke the NWO in the eye" - x over the eyeball - on every dollar bill I get. Cheap entertainment is the best kind!

If people want to obsess over short term questions (eg. who to vote for in November, what person is the "better" candidate, which symptom of global fascism is most urgent, etc.) and feel threatened by differing opinions, then movement will be fractured.

If instead we maintain a long term perspective over the many fundamental issues that brought us together (the constitution, the Fed, sound money, sane foreign policy, individual freedom, etc.) then we will grow stronger with each passing day.

never actually took charge of his campaign. what he failed to understand is that a campaign needs a leader and he never led. It is in peoples nature to look to someone to lead and Ron Paul failed. We handed it to him but he never gave us what we needed, leadership".
He kept talking about how we are doing it all spontaneously but we were looking to him.
He said he never asked for money, why not?
He should have set goals for us through his website. He did not have to address us directly but had he addressed those in the official campaign on his website we would have taken our cues from there.
So the last chance was that he would approach Jesse Ventura and have him as his running mate. That would have invigorated the campaign like nothing else.
When Ron Paul was cut off in one of the debates he should have stood up and voiced his opinion. Instead he folded and behaved like a meek sheep.
Finally then he drops out before the convention pulling the rug out so now we will never know what could have been...

I think he's trying to send the message to move on to other candidates, instead of wasting write-ins on him or wasting efforts trying to draft him to run 4th party.

Our focus needs to be on Barr and Baldwin. Now, those two need to get together and cut a deal for one of them to drop out, because splitting our support is just going to keep both of their polling low which will keep the message of liberty out of the debates and the news. If they don't do this, then Dr. Paul needs to step up to the plate and endorse one of them.

Nader is out of the picture, because the Paul supporters that choose to support him never understood Dr. Paul in the first place.

Clearly Dr. Paul is signaling that he doesn't want us to write him in:
"Well I think [Barr] is running a very important race, and I'm encouraging him. I haven't endorsed him, but he's saying the kind of things I like to be heard and said. I hope he does real well. But, we also have Chuck Baldwin who runs on the Constitutional Party. His views are very very close to mine, and he worked very hard in my campaign. So for me to pick one over the other is not easy. I hope they both together get a lot of votes." http://www.dailypaul.com/...

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except on who we should vote for for president.

But this is not about any one person, but rather about ideas.

I can respect anyone who supports Barr, Baldwin, or Nader

It would be nice to have enough unity to get one of these men into the debates, but even if we don't, pushing the ideas of liberty will be enough.

In fact, maybe the CFL can sponsor its own debate between these three candidates.

I see what your saying and yeah i will probably support Baldwin, but im also waiting to see what Dr. Paul does, if he tells me to support Barr then i will. Im sure if he doesnt get in at the end as a third party he will let us know who would be the best choice after all he did start the CFL so he will probably tell us who would be best for the movement and thats who ill vote.

When all the pieces come together our work will be done. The seemingly chaotic brew of ideas and action will yield the most satisfying results.

multiplying! There used to be one candidate talking about the Federal Reserve... now there's two maybe more. There used to be one man in Congress discussing non-interventionist foreign policy... hopefully with our help there will be many more!

This is just the end of the beginning and if you ever think this movement is falling apart just tune into our show... We will be there!

Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom" and "Operation Daily Paul"
on revolutionbroadcasting.com
or visit www.mikeandjake.com

I remember that RP once said that one of his favorite hobbies is gardening.
IMO, all of us are now part of his "Revolution Garden". He has sown the seeds and we are seeing all sorts of things sprout! Make no mistake, there are certainly weeds among us.
We have to be patient and do research on our own because after all, he did say we are smart enought to figure out who to support.
I'm going to sit back and watch the garden. If RP don't suggest someone that would be good to vote for, I'll just pick the prettiest bloom I can find, hope for the best and plan for the worst.

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Nobody that "woke up" is going back to sleep, ever.

We're simply seeing a frantic activity going on by people who can't come to grips with the fact that unless RP miraculously pulls out the GOP nomination, we're not going to get the Presidency this time around. And even IF that happened, we might not win anyway, and probably wouldn't.

As for "making a statement", losers make a statement. Winners run the country. And nobody wins unless they control the precincts and the vote counting, and the committee chairmanships, and the executive positions in one of the major parties. And as such, they then command the masses of "sheeple votes" that we''ll NEVER get unless we control a major party. If anybody thinks that we will EVER wake up the majority of people who blindly pull a voting lever for some party, without ever even knowing anything about the candidates or positions, they are sadly mistaken. These sheeple are not about to "get educated" on politics. They have no desire or intention to do so. Control a major party, and control those massive voting blocks.

Then, after we finally get that into our heads, which may take until after November for some, then we can get back to business in the trenches, after the distraction has gone away.
We're simply not ready yet to take the reigns, and if we miraculously got them, we couldn't do a thing with them because we don't have any support on Capitol Hill.

Not a "one-inning game" folks.

Vote on the issues...
I would be surprised if RP doesn't endorse Chuck Baldwin at some time.
It is all about the message and 90 some odd % of what CB says is the
same as RP.
Chuck Baldwin opens his mouth and Ron Paul falls out....
and thats a good thing -
a very good thing!

(not sure if fractured is acuarate though - as over 60,000 have already
joined Campaign for Liberty in one week - with initial goal of
100,000 for Sept. 2)
Not bad for fractured...

See you in September!

I understand your sentiment. Dr. Paul is well aware of the danger of this and therefore he launched the "campaign for liberty", which is a very good idea, also to keep all together, for now and also the future, regardless if you are not going to vote in the presidential in November, or vote for Baldwain, Barr, Nader, McKinney, Obama or McCain (I sincerely wish NO one would vote for Obama or McCain).

Another way to unite is to work for the election of local Ron Paul Republicans,
and there are also a few Independents, Libertarians, Democrats and Constitutionalists (and conservative Greens?) running on the Ron Paul platform.
They should all be supported. There are also a few friends of Paul one can support, like Jimmy Duncan (TN), Walter Jones (NC), Jeff Flake (AZ), sen. John Sununu, Dr. Paul Broun (GA), Tom McClintock (CA) etc. etc. although they would not agree of everything. More representation in congress are going to be very important. There will also be a few senate races coming up early next year or so and in 2010 a lot of course.

The CP does not offer 100% ballot access, the LP 48 of 50 states, but the problem with the "sore loser clause is that Dr. Paul cannot run third party in 4,5 states (including Texas) and then you have in any case NO hope of winning and he would have to give up his seat in congress. It would require millions and millions only to set up a new party and then you will be mostly ignored in the duopoly. If the CP and LP can perform significantly better than usual, there could be a basis for a third party in the future, but you have to unite them all in a new party. Dr. Paul would have problems with the LP platform with regard to immigration and abortion and the perception of being "libertine". Some would also criticize his "federalism", just like they are doing with Barr now.

they do not have a chance. The system has to change! The media decides who is winning, who is crazy, who is right, who is wrong. It cannot work with just joining another party. It is time for real Change.

all of the third parties would be willing to have Ron Paul as a mediator.

We should organize 3rd party debates around the country and agree to get behind the popular 3rd party candidate regardless of who it is. (I happen to be a Baldwin fan). It would strengthen the 3rd party for future elections.

If we are voting for Constitution lovers, at local and state levels, will most of them be running independent? As a life long Republican I don't think there is time to change the party. The treatment of our fellow GOP members in the primaries was my last straw.

and SILVER type attitude. What's up with that? That's like neocons saying you are not a patriot unless you support the war. Am I not a Ron Paul supporter if I don't want to buy GOLD and SILVER because I want to save cash to pay bills because I'm worrying about losing my job?

"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson