Holy CHEMTRAILS Batman. I think they are spraying us.
You know at first I was skeptical of chemtrails just like I was about 9/11 being an inside job. Deniability is becoming harder for me every day on this subject of Chemtrails. My only question now is are they doing it to modify the atmosphere and play mother nature or are they using it directly on us to modify behavior like with the Flouride in the water. Either way some serious consdieration needs to be given as to why this is happening and why we aren't being told about it.
Watch this videos and decide for yourself about chemtrails.
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I don't know what the significance is of this
I live in southeast pennsylvania and for the last few weeks in June I noticed trails in the sky making big "x" marks. These past few weeks the sky has been overcast constantly and for the past few days there's been a couple days with severe downpours. Now, I don't know why chemtrails are in our air or why they've been introduced into bills SEVEN years ago (HR2977-look it up) but I sure would like to know.
Me too..
I would love to know why they are spraying them.
Well I wanted to tell everyone something I saw today.
it's a fairly clear sky today here in central KY. So of course I look outside in the sky and what do you know Lovely planes dumping shit in the atmosphere. Funny thing is I was watching one and saw where it started spraying and then where it stopped. What the hell is going on. These planes aren't as high up cause I can make the engines out on the plane and they aren't contrails becuase I saw one of them earlier and it was gone in a short period of time. These damn clouds are just sticking around in a nice grid pattern.
I'm really starting to think
your goal here is to just stir up as much stupid contraversy as possible to distract from real and achievable political goals. You seem to bounce from 9/11 to free energy to chemtrails on about a 3 week rotation.
Uh huh...sure sure.
Will I be seeing you at the march this weekend?
It's not free energy, HHO helps burn your gas more efficently. 9/11 well didn't see you respond to the DEBUNK THIS THREAD so guess that is that and oh yeah didn't you say you had a high paying job. How is it that you are here 24/7 spreading disinfo. Political goals in mind. If we all get better gas mileage we can get off of foreign oil, and when the 9/11 truth movement get to critical mass we can destroy the war machine which was founded off of the myth that terrorist can knock buildings down with jet airliners which is a total fantasy. Blow me forge, you are nothing but a known disinfo bootlicking whore. I am living getting my political goals taken care of by actually practicing some of what I preach.
I just wish
In God We Trust!
I just wish they'd start doing some sort of art work when they spray, ya know, something like "air graffiti" or maybe even fill in those tic tac toes with Xs and Os.
Don't mean to complain but it's just so boring the way they are flying now.
Probably pilots in training.
first-hand observations
I just observed numerous instances of the phenomena in question here in the skies of northern Illinois. I started my observations at approximately 6:15 PM CT.
I observed the intermittent starting and stopping of the chemtrails/"contrails" phenomenon.
I observed numerous cross-patterns and parallel patterns. I observed what appeared to be hexagonal patterns.
One particular cross-pattern seemed to indicate that one of the chemtrail/"contrail" phenomena stopped and then started again, leaving a small gap at what appeared to be the point of intersection of the two trails.
After having observed these phenomenon on several occasions, I have noted that they only seem to occur at certain times of the day and on some days, the occurrences can be observed almost continuously for a period of time, perhaps one to two hours, and then they completely stop.
I find it apropos to quote Patrick Henry:
"Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth -- to know the worst and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past."
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Rougly where
in the US are you, JKap?
FORGE, WAKE UP
. . . and smell the coffee. At least inform yourself before denying. It makes you look ignorant.
CONtrails disperse after a few seconds. Look for yourself. If you see what you think is a CONtrail, wait to see how long the trail disappears during flight.
If it stays and expands and lasts for several minutes (usually 15-20 minutes) then it's a CHEMtrail.
If you see X's in the sky, tic-tac-toe designs, several parallel lines, are you going to tell me that it's simply contrails? What jet, both military and commercial, flies like that? Are they just having fun at government expense?
Again, WAKE UP!
Have you ever looked
at air traffic patterns? There are a lot of planes in the sky. It doesn't surprise me at all that, with the right weather conditions, you get geometric shapes.
You're really freaked out by the fact that the paths of two commercial aircraft appear to intersect into an X in the sky? Really? What would you rather they do? Fly in giant spirals around each other so you don't get spooked?
C'mon, guys.. seriously. Think about all the commercial planes in the sky flying similar routes on set intervals of time and tell me you really think there's something evil about parallel contrails in the sky.
I think we may be dealing
with some actual paranoid schizophrenics here. I think Jkap may be one. Some of the others are hard to tell - maybe just really slow. Others maybe just little kids with active imaginations whose minds haven't matured.
It's tempting to try to correct them, but I'm thinking it may be a waste of time. There's no harm in them believing this stuff anyway.
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Wasting your time?
If you think that all these people talking about
Chemtrails are kooks, then why would you waste
your time trying to convince a bunch of crazies
that they are wrong?
"Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true" ... Buddha
That's my point
That's what I just said.
I'm coming to the conclusion just to leave them be in their little world.
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A few months ago..
heck, even a few *days* ago, I would have disagreed with you. The harm was that visitors to this site who saw that it had been overrun with this sort of crap would think that it was indicative of all RP supporters and be turned off.
Now that RP has formally withdrawn from the presidential race, the number of truly new visitors to this site will probably start dwindling, so... perhaps you are right. Maybe it is time to stop worrying about policing the idiocy on the board. Although I'll probably still give Oruval a lot of crap. He's just too easy.
Circular reasoning. Very very stupid.
What you, and other chemtrailers, here are doing is defining a contrail as something that lasts for only a few seconds, and a chemtrail as something that lasts 15-20 minutes.
Then you see a trail in the sky, and from that, you conclude that if it a lasts last 15-20 minutes and expands (rarifies) then it must be a chemtrail.
It's circular reasoning in that your conclusion is in your premise. It's a non-argument.
Where is your evidence that contrails can't last for 15-20 minutes or longer and "expand?"
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Treg, here's one for ya from ABC News:
In Russia, Sometimes It Rains Cement
June 17, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/US/...
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian air force planes dropped a 25-kg (55-lb) sack of cement on a suburban Moscow home last week while seeding clouds to prevent rain from spoiling a holiday, Russian media said on Tuesday.
"A pack of cement used in creating ... good weather in the capital region ... failed to pulverize completely at high altitude and fell on the roof of a house, making a hole about 80-100 cm (2.5-3 ft)," police in Naro-Fominsk told agency RIA-Novosti.
Ahead of major public holidays the Russian Air Force often dispatches up to 12 cargo planes carrying loads of silver iodide, liquid nitrogen and cement powder to seed clouds above Moscow and empty the skies of moisture.
**A spokesman for the Russian Air Force refused to comment.**
June 12 was Russia Day, a patriotic holiday celebrating the country's independence after the break-up of the Soviet Union.
Weather specialists said the cement's failure to turn to powder was the first hiccup in 20 years.
The homeowner was not injured, but refused an offer of 50,000 roubles ($2,100) from the air force, saying she would sue for damages and compensation for moral suffering, Interfax said.
chemtrails and the economy
As the dollar continues to fall, the government continues to
print money causing even more inflation, there has to be a good
explanation to the masses as to why their money is not buying
the same values. So, droughts, tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, energy
shortages are all good reasons for the government to continue spending
much like the New Deal with FDR during the Great Depression.
There are cycles and we are in a mean one right now.
Chemtrails are one of the methods that they are using.
drought
Saturday, here in Austin, Texas we had quite a few beautiful
thunderhead clouds move in, they sprayed heavy, heavy
on the "contrails" and these clouds dispersed into thin
airy whispy clouds. No rain. Drought
Almost 100 degrees here in Austin,Tx today,with heavy spraying
Someone care to explain why the "frozen" contrails lingered in the sky for HOURS on end? C'mon Treg,debunk this one,I dare you.
Do the math Treg. Contrails cant exist in this high a temperature.
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Please...
YOU do the math. 2 degrees C for every 1,000 ft. 35,000 ft. With a surface temp of 100 F, you're looking at ~-30 degrees C. That's 30 degrees below freezing.
Jeez... "do the math".. you guys crack me up.
You must be one happy S.o.B, Ignoranceisbliss.
Still waiting on your answer,smartass
BTW 100F degrees minus 70 degrees is 30 degrees. that is 2 degrees below freezing,not 30 below freezing.
BTW,your mother might be a bitch,mine is a saint.
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I swear..
see, there's this thing in science called "units of measure". Those of us with a little bit of scientific training know about them and love them. We also try not to mix them. Here, let me educate you:
There are 4 temperature scales used, Fahrenheit, Celsius, Rankine, and Kelvin. Today, we'll be working on converting between Fahrenheit and Celsius. 100 degrees F is roughly 37 C. Assuming 2 degrees C of drop in temperature for every 1,000 ft of altitude, your 100 degree F day would translate to a temperature of 37-70 = -27 C at 35,000 ft of altitude. In other words, ROUGHLY 30 DEGREES BELOW FREEZING, YOU POOR MISGUIDED MORON.
Shall I explain basic addition and subtraction to you too? No wonder you didn't "do the math".
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I love how when you say something
that is so stupid that even you realize you look like a moron that you delete the post and then that part of the thread gets strangely quiet.
Acutally chose the name for people like you forge.
So if it is frozen and heavier than air,then why does it stay suspended in the air ALL DAY LONG hmm smart guy?
Are you going to tell me that ice is lighter than air?
Or maybe there is no gravity at 35,000ft?
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In short:
terminal velocity.
In long, I refer you to this nice article by a meteorologist:
http://www.sciam.com/arti...
I guess I'm still crazy!
They're flying over head all the time now. What they're doing I'm not exactly sure (causing floods?, weather modification?, dumping chemicals,?).
But I can tell you for sure - they are not normal airplane contrails and I've seen firsthand all the "proof" I need!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Yeah...
If you've never seen them... you don't know what we're talking about.
If you have, and you still deny them... you're in denial.
These are not contrails. They are chemtrails. There's a difference. Mainly because of the pattern in the sky and the way they disperse. Funny how the pattern and the funny dispersement always come at the same time.
Alex Jones video is your proof?
And a water sample from who and taken where? Is gathered up impartially? Is tested impartially? Means what?
Look, all those Alex Jones supporters and believers, I challenge YOU to put your man to the test.
Make up something, make up anything, make up false "facts" that FITS into the Alex Jones conspiracy point of view. Test his Vetting Process to see if you have indeed provide a "fact" or not. Take a picture of an army tank, some GI's walking about, super impose it by a local Wal Mart in your town. Say you saw THEM doing military drills. Be creative, don't just use my idea here. Now this may indeed be happening, but is your man Alex Jones vetting any of these "facts"? Or is he spinning it like the National Inquire?
After you do that, yes it is ok to come crying to me when your man Alex blasts this false "fact" you made up as "the gospel truth" across the airwaves and internet. Whats worse, even when he is told that the "fact" is not really a fact, THEN LISTEN... listen to the rationalizations, the excuses, the ---"we already KNOW they do this sort of thing so we don't have to rely on your fake fact to know its true"--- He may even refuse to take your false "fact" down off the net or stop talking as if its true.
Then ask yourselves, where is the hard science? Where is the real solid ground here? Where is the facts that builds the case conclusively, not the "we know its true" Storyline?
I submit the concerns of government power are real, the worry of a police state is a needed one, thus we in the Revolution must be extra careful on not being used, or punked, duped, or "played like a fiddle" for someones personal cause or pocket book.
Like Sergeant Friday used to say, "Just the facts mam, just the facts".
In Peace & Liberty,
Treg
yes Treg
call Alex.
I was born in Poland we had pure non toxic foods...now in Canada its very hard to find them anymore...why?
watch Endgame movie
http://video.google.ca/vi...
Call Alex up on the radio
He encourages debunkers and people to call and challenge him. If he's wrong about something, he'll admit he's wrong right on the air !
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you make disinfo
the elite wanted to do things but the pressure/them being exposed stopped them.
journalistic mission is to expose and Alex is the hero.
I know how many false flag attacks he prevented from happening because of his activism...
The truth about Chemtrails..
will soon come out.
Too bad for the many people who
have already fallen ill or have died
from their effects.
Name one
Name one. Give details. Where is your proof? Where is your evidence to say such things? Is this Paranoia speaking or do you know something you would like to report?
In Peace & Liberty,
Treg
You want proof?
Let me name a few for you....
Everyone on this site reading this, go out and
purchase a Dylos air quality monitor and plug it in
outside, pull up a lawn chair with a cool drink, watch
the sky for "Contrail" activity and within one to two hours
after heavy spraying watch the meter on the monitor jump
from a reading of 10ppm up to 25,000 ppm.
This reading has been directly linked to heavy Chemtrail activity.
Now...go find a neighbor who has COPD (Chronic obstructive pulmonary
disease) that shouldn't be hard, and have that neighbor pull up a lawn chair
and watch the meter rise along with your neighbor's breathing difficulties.
The two go hand in hand.
now go visit your local emergency room after a heavy day of chemtrail activity
and watch how many of the people are having breathing and heart troubles.
Make sure that all of you understand what Aluminum toxicity does to
the human body.
Also, Google "Metal Fume fever"
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Treg
Look to the sky!
Treg
Do you have eyes? Do you have ears? Do you have a brain?
Use them. You are drenched in evidence.
Yes I have eyes, ears & a Brain
Care to address them with factual evidence? Have better links than the two above?
I am all eyes and ears, ready to THINK about the evidence you submit.
It should not be too hard for you since its, "all around".
In Peace & Liberty,
Treg
Ostrich syndrome
The facts are there for all to see but some folks like to keep there heads in the sand and really don't want to see the truth.
There is more than enough evidence and testimony available to show without a doubt that there is an aerosol spraying program afoot. It has been admitted by heads of governments, air force officers, meteorologists and a number of scientists from various disciplines. These people will never come around to the truth simply because;
a) they are too stupid
b) they are afraid
or
c) they are completely brainwashed and believe that the government is a benevolent group of righteous caregivers tending to it's loving flock of sheep.
Every time "chemtrails" or "911 was an Inside Job" is mentioned, the same sheeple get on here and reply with the same old gobbledy goop about tin foil hats and name calling.
When I see a heavy spray day I generally try to stay in doors. I suppose having your head in the sand is also a good preventative measure though eh?
Actually in the sand is not
Actually in the sand is not exactly where I think they've shoved their heads.
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you think they can see
what they had for lunch?
I like that : ostrich syndrom
That's exactly what the debunkers have. Unless they can see it when their dearest and nearest are too ill or if they themselves have been affected so severely that they are beyond saving will they even contemplate that chemtrails are part of today's society.
We know the score about conspiracy theories which are being exposed one after another.
Recent article about Germans spraying concrete dust?
Recently someone posted an article about the Germans spraying concrete dust in the clouds (chemtrails) and it clogged and fell, damaging a house. I can't find the article. Thanks, if you can direct me.
This is the article, it is Russia
http://abcnews.go.com/US/...
Thanks Hannah
I think it is a good article to prove to those who might not believe chemtrails, but that things are sprayed from planes that are toxic to breath (and to be under!) :)
H. R. 2977 describes "chemtrails" ...
as "exotic weapon(s) systems..." here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi...
See for yourself what they are described as being, and for what purpose. It ain't pretty!
Consider the source
It was submitted by Dennis Kucinich.
Kucinich also saw a UFOs:
http://rawstory.com/news/...
Consider the source is right. He's loony.
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