Paul statement lends some weight to the suspicion that he's going to ENDORSE BARR.
Posted June 22nd, 2008 by Just dropping by
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From an report and interview posted here: http://thefacts.com/story...
"As for whom Paul’s voters will support in November, he predicted many would get behind third party candidates Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party nominee and Paul’s “good friend” from Congress, and Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin, an anti-war Christian pastor from Florida.
“I don’t think too many of them will vote for John McCain,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of support for Chuck Baldwin. He worked real hard for our campaign, so it’s going to be real hard for me to say I’m for Bob Barr.”"
My view:
This leads me to guess that he's "going to" endorse Barr. It's just going to be difficult because he likes Baldwin too. Sounds to me like he's in the process of mentally preparing himself to make a difficult announcement, if he makes one at all.
We already know he SUPPORTS BOTH Barr and Baldwin: "I think he's [Barr's] running a very important race, and I'm encouraging him. I haven't endorsed him, but he's saying the kind of things I like to be heard and said. I hope he does real well. But, we also have Chuck Baldwin who runs on the Constitutional Party. His views are very very close to mine, and he worked very hard in my campaign. So for me to pick one over the other is not easy. I hope they both together get a lot of votes." http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Note that he doesn't say just above that he is not going to endorse Barr, but that he "hasn't." He's obviously leaving the door open for himself to do that.
Another interesting observation is that Dr. Paul has been expressing his appreciation for Baldwin working hard for his campaign. Expressing appreciation for someone is what people do prior to having to do something that hurts their feelings. All these things looks to me like a lead up to an endorsement of Barr.
(This is not to say that Barr didn't do some great things for Dr. Paul too, like this introductory speech: http://youtube.com/watch?... )
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Um, how about no? As in, we're not going to vote for the jacka$$ that voted YES to pass the USA (un)Patriot Act.
Barr voted YES to strip away the protections of our rights that the US Constitution is supposed to provide.
You can lie and spin all you want, but it won't change that fact.
I'm sure if you try hard....real hard...you might be able to comprehend what I'm saying. C'mon now...you can do it...
Suspicion ???
Be carefull in your choice of words here. You never can tell you may enter that twilight zone that you want no part of without facts. You know, the "truthers" who you want nothing to do with. When you actually have the proof and facts before you present it. Not before as we will hold you to your demanding standards. Thank you in advance---Justcantgetenoughsupportforbarr.
justcan'tgetitup...... lol
justcan'tgetitup...... lol whoever said that, thats a classic!
for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
why are we in such a hurry to endorse Barr
We have more political clout if we wait until November to decide what to do.
Endorse Barr?
Why are so many trying to second guess Ron Paul? The man himself will tell us soon enough.
And just how much weight has
And just how much weight has he lent to this suspicion? About 42 picograms, from what I can tell --- in other words, little to none.
He will endorese....
No one person. Only their ideas. We will be on our own. That is what libertarianism is all about. Individual choices.
I think you are right that this context shows that it will be tough to endorse one over the other but..... you are dreaming if you think it means Barr wil be his guy.
Question to the Write in League.....
Do you really think Ron Paul will write him self in?
Doubt that think on it.
?'s
I only get on dailypaul in my spare time. It seems as if you live here...hum? Anyway, Barr is not and never will be Ron Paul. Some of what you said above is pure propaganda, and I am quite tired of that. Expressing appreciation etc..... Come on. I hope everyone is with me on this. I am not wearing rose colored glasses any longer, and it makes it pretty easy to see the good vs. the bad. I will vote with my mind and my conscience. I am not voting for Barr and I doubt if Ron Paul is either.
There seems to be
a war between Baldwin/Barr supporters as of late. The sad part is Baldwin is not on the ballot in many states, my pathetic state is one of them. I wish the Baldwin supporter's would move the argument as to how we can get both guys on all state ballots, that way we could have a short and simple apples to apples comparison of the 2 candidates. I don't think it would be a long debate but while we spend our idle time flaming each others posts instead of leveling the playing field the rest of us will suffer through this new endless war. So if I may ask you chipaugel, who do think is a good backup choice to Ron Paul? I say backup because anything can happen before November.
Get in touch with the
Get in touch with the Baldwin campaign and collect signatures for him. Pressure the local media to cover the campaign. He's not on the ballot in my state either but there is a sizable christian music and arts festival coming up that would be a good place to gather signors. I'm sure there are other similar activities elsewhere in the country.
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where is that barr loves chemtrails post, I almost fell
off my chair ;)
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I don't know about Barr,
but I support chemtrials. I love 'em. Whoever is doing them, they're doing a great job, and I'd like to see more.
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Have you ever made the connection
of your breathing chemtrails to your delusion of thinking that the Barr campaign has much to do with what Ron Paul intends on achieving with the CFL? Just wondering.
Note
("Justcantgetenough": Please don't support Barr. You'll hurt his public image and cost him support and votes.) You cost him my vote.
I think Bobber's public
I think Bobber's public image has been hurt quite enough without JustCan'tGetItUp's backing --- and without his eating of Borat's wife's titmilk cheese.
My 2 cents
The LSM has been all over Ron Paul lately and some have expressed their opinion that the RNC will not nominate McCain after all. Could it be Ron Paul believes it is too obvious now for the Republican elites to hope for a chance against the Dems without Paul? They know he won't take the VP and He has just put in place a national movement with a clear agenda. Maybe I'm just dreaming, maybe the media is overreacting to the continuous growth of his movement or maybe it all depends on September's rally. I don't know, I just don't think you can count him out when even He couldn't believe the size of this movement. You might argue the politicians are on the same team and don't care who is president, but what one man has vocal support in every state? Who is the only man picking the next generation of congressman, senators, govenors, etc. ? I think his odds are slim but then I never thought we would accomplish so much and continue to grow. So I think Ron may still believe that their is a chance. I certainly hope so.
I remember hearing some
I remember hearing some stupid MSM lady say maybe they'll back John McCain and puked in my mouth. Considering recent polls showing that Paul supporter will do anything but back McCain. I hope they reconsider their position. If they don't they're committing suicide. What they need to realize is that we have little other recourse no matter what they do. If they have a change of heart it will be time to strike while the iron's hot. If they do not it will be time to strike while the iron's hot. If they wanna dodge the iron, they're gonna have to throw him under the bus.
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I listen to way too many AM talk shows
The crowd that gathers around Howie Carr and Rush (don't get the chance to listen often to Rush) are really upset with McCain and many are saying stay home on election day. The LSM can turn out all the stories they want, his support is pretty low. The primary crowd is very different than the base Republican who calls into shows like these. I don't think it will happen but if the whole area around Ron Paul's convention was booked up enough to make the news before the RNC, who knows maybe the several hundred RP delegates and the several thousand alternate delegate would stage a coup. I know my state, Massachusetts, will stand up the first round and half vote Rommeny, what many of you haven't heard is how many of them who are also free to vote as they please in the 2nd round are Ron Paul people. With what the people I hear are saying on the talk shows, I don't think for a second the Republicans hope the RP crowd will vote for them when many of their own will not.
Is this your attempt
to graduate in the art of spin doctor.... Justcangetenough, go and get a life!!
Nah noway
He will definetly support Baldwin before he supports Barr. But it dont matter the good Dr. is going to run third party watch and see, id put money on it. Why wouldnt he endorse a candidate unless he was going to himself run third party. The sooner he endorses a candidate the more his support will grow, but he didnt and he isnt going to endorse anyone. He will run third party.
I don't think so
He has said a hundred times that he's not planning it. It's way too late to start after the GOP convention. I think our best chance of real victory is to force a GOP loss by voting third party this year (or write-in Ron Paul if your state will count them). That way we make a clear statement on our issues, and Ron Paul gets a real shot at 2012 when it becomes crystal clear that the Republicans cannot win without our support.
Now if some miracle happens and Dr. Paul wins the nomination this time around, when all the signs say he won't, then we don't have to choose some lesser candate. Wonderful! But... I don't think so this time. We would need a serious game-changer for that to happen, like Hillary suddenly becoming the Dem candidate after all. Hillary is much more formidable than Obama in the general, IMO.
We are doing very well for only having had 18 months to prepare and learn. Imagine how powerful we will be four years from now, with the GOP trying to recover from a crushing defeat this fall... we just have to be patient. We are younger than they are, even if Dr. Paul is not. If his health continues to hold, we are golden next time. Especially if our chief foes will be Huckabee and Romney :)
In the meantime, we don't necessarily have to all vote for the same "minor" candidate. The numbers will speak for themselveshe end . There will be plenty of commentary on where all the Ron Paul votes went (besides the write-ins that were actually counted), if they go outside the 2 parties in the first place.
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In that same interview he
In that same interview he said he might endorse later in the fall. But since he said, "I hope they both get a lot of votes." I gotta believe him. he started the Campaign for Liberty and he said, "I hope they both get a lot of votes." But why? Could it be that both these campaigns are important to his campaign for liberty?
As soon as Paul dropped out it quit being about winning the POTUS. I think what he doesn't want is a double loss. Meaning neither McCain nor Obama can win the election.
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Right on thanks for the links
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"There is but one special interest that we should be working for, and that would solve just about all of our problems, and that is our liberty."Ron Paul
I think Bob Barr
is actually Eddie Murphy in white make up. Like that old Jewish guy he played in "coming to America"?
that is soooo funny
OMG your so right......post the pic that best fits this description
"There is but one special interest that we should be working for, and that would solve just about all of our problems, and that is our liberty."Ron Paul
I've never had to "read
I've never had to "read into" any of Ron Paul's statements. I don't think that was a hint that he'll support Barr.
who cares? haha, the only
who cares?
haha, the only people who care are the Baldwin and Barr supporters who continue to bicker over which loser candidate they should get behind....
I'm supporting Ron Paul (if that means I don't vote, then fine....).
hmmm
I'm not sure about this...
I get what you're saying emotionally -
but I think RP wants us all to vote for someone other than
the 2 major parties ....
just to show numbers actually going out and specifically voting either
for something or at least voting against the republicrats.
I really sense he would like to see a record number of protest votes
this election.
(and yes, I still think after Sept sometime he is going to endorse Baldwin)
Nice.
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I Will be Disappointed if Dr. Paul Endorses Anyone
Dr. Paul thinks in terms of philosophy. He realizes maintaining ones principles very often means not being on the winning side. He is a humble man who believes in his heart that the function of a leader should be minimal. His personal philosophy is to avoid telling others what to do.
We are the Revolution. There doesn't need to be a LEADER. Spread the message. It's not about this election cycle. In two years there will be a Congressional election. How many people can we expose to the message in two years? How about for the next Presidential election? Local elections are held regularly.
Dr. Paul will be our leader by example. I live in Texas and by the election laws write in votes for Dr. Paul will not be counted. It's a "sore loser law". I will still write him in. I will continue to spread the message.
Yes,
he should not endorse a candidate outside the GOP if he wants to work in the GOP to reform it back to its roots, keep his position in congress and also to unify the movement. There are conservative Greens and radical anti-war leftists also that voted for him. They may not trust Barr and Baldwin so much as him..
The Other Candidates
They may change some of their positions to attempt to get our votes but that means they will change their "principles" to get something they want. It will be a hard sell for any candidate to convince me they have seen the light between now and the November election.
John Adams said "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
I Totally Get
Ron Paul is going to endorse Chuck Baldwin from every interview I've
seen or heard.
same here :D
same here :D
Let's all use these troll threads
to post all our 9/11 truth information.
Every time JCGE or BD or any of his other aliases posts any thread, just load the thread up with truth posts.
The longer the better.
Get it all out there for everyone who comes on the thread to read.
Here's my first one.
The Plan for a New American Century, a neocon think tank with direct ties to Israel via dual-citizen members, published a document in the year 2000, which directly stated their goals for world domination, strategies on how to accomplish it, and the "need" for a "new Pearl Harbor" type event in order to get public support for their outlandish plans.
A year later, these same neocons were filling the vast majority of the highest cabinet levels of the newly elected Bush administration(including the VP) when the "new Pearl Harbor" event miraculously occurred, allowing all their preconceived plans to be immediately implemented, with regional war being the outcome.
The PNAC documents themselves could be considered the "smoking gun" for motive and opportunity.
A deep impartial investigations MUST take place.
How about this one
Building Seven, a 47 story building, wasn't even hit by a plane and fell at the rate of freefall for a building-what that means it was a controlled demolition. Several reporters noted BEFORE building seven began to fall that it was falling and that explosions were heard inside the building.
Building seven was the emergency control center for the Twin Towers and a hub for the CIA. Larry Silverstein, who profited by the billions after 9/11, was the owner of the twin towers and building seven was quoted as saying in an interview afterwards "pull it" when asked about what he told his employees to do about building seven. He later said he was misquoted even though it was on PBS news.
The final bit of information is that Building seven wasn't even mentioned in the 9/11 report.
Building seven is the smoking gun evidence that needs to be explained and reported upon.
LOL!
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If we don't make any comments..
to Justcantgetenough's threads they will go away. I am not going to post or give any comments to his threads, it's just feeding the troll and continuing his efforts to annoying people.
We can't keep 'him or it" from bumping
The antagonistic behavior is of no value. It should be, banned, flagged whatever.
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Well,
if he does not get the nomination nor any kind of concession at the RNC, I still do not think he should endorse either Barr or Baldwin, or if he does decide, then he should endorse BOTH of them.
We know the CP has limited ballot access, while the LP will be in 49 states. On a personal level Barr and Baldwin's positions are quite close too. You have to look at the combination of support of both Barr and Baldwin. They should also get their own endorsement and EXPAND the movement, e.g. getting new voters, rather than competing about who the most Paul support would get,..
If Dr. Paul would endorse only one, and that one does not really attract at least 1,2 million votes, the MSM will have a stick to hit us and say the revolution is no success. You have to show progress.
The sheep should not wait or expect Paul to make any endorsement, but rather vote for either Baldwin or Barr.
Not for Nader, Obama or McCain. If you want to vote against the war, Barr and Baldwin are in any case better options than Obama. Plus if you vote for Obama, it send the message to the GOP they should move domestically more like the Democrats, and we never want that. A strong showing by the CP and LP will show the GOP they should rather move towards their roots, away from the Democrats and towards limited government etc.
Ron Paul likes both Barr and Baldwin!
That is what Dr. Paul is really communicating.
No... it doesn't
It makes some Barr supporters think Dr. Paul is going to endorse him and all will be perfect in the world.
However, I still haven't given up on Dr. Paul becoming president as it seems many here have. We should be supporting things like the DVD for delegates program another poster has taken under wing. If we can turn enough delegates, we can get a nomination from the floor. I have to believe it.
So all the Barr trollers looking to snap up weak Paul supporters... .beat it. You might get some of the 'fad' voters who thought it was "Kewl" because Paul seemed anti-establishment to them but I think the rest of us are hanging around till the end. Otherwise, dailypaul would be gone already.
Paul is our candidate. Go start a Barr site.
Oh, please
Cantyoujustgoaway and play elsewhere...oh what's that?
I think I hear your mother calling you.
IT'S DOABLE
What's
"doable?"
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your moms?
your moms?
No, it's not your mother calling you
It's learning...try a dictionary.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Doable
–adjective capable of being done.
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Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
doable
Possible to do: a program that is tough but doable.
IT'S DOABLE
I'm not asking what the word means.
I'm asking what you're saying is doable. What's doable?
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it depends on how much
it depends on how much batter is in your cornhole already.
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Justcan'tgetenough,
I do believe you're reading into something that isn't there. Dr. Paul DID say that Chuck Balwin worked real hard for his campaign. He did not say the same thing about Bob Barr. I think you want to push Bob Barr as usual and put words into Dr. Paul's mouth.