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burning dead dinosaurs

Fortune Favors the Bold

not a long term strategy. I heard Ron Paul say in his montana speech that if every state had an additional nuclear plant we would have all the electrical power we need.

this is just the start!

this is just the start! this is what the governmrnt fears most.. this will give them the need for martial law.
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as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Learn how to be a gardener.

I always try to get advice from retired folks, not talking about 50 year olds, I mean those that really have knowledge like people in their 80's on up. They are packed full of servival information like gardening tips and preserving foods. Had to be, since many of them grew up before common place refrigerators and supermarkets.
grant

great advice Grant! as for

great advice Grant!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and over run by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what were putting up with” Ron Paul

Urban Homestead

Just came across this on Boing Boing yesterday: The Urban Homestead: Your Guide to Self-Sufficient Living in the Heart of the City.

I haven't read it, but it might be worth a look-see.

I haven't looked at it but

there is no way I will eat nasty pigeons. I might go pick all the coins out of the fountains though.

not to mention

Fortune Favors the Bold

what eggs actually are, when you think about it

Do you eat chicken? Chickens

Do you eat chicken? Chickens are nastier. All birds poop white manure that looks bad.

Pigeons were eaten quite often by the Romans and medieval Kings.

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They're called squab and they are a delicacy.

Don't be so "poopy-doopy" as my little nephew would say.

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Actually

you will be able to get food, in limited quantities from the military that will be running the distribution centers. All you will have to do is get the microchip implant and be registered for the work gangs.

see the picture of this poor

see the picture of this poor child about 1/2 way down... this broke my heart!

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/...

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So sad

Did you read what happened to the photographer after taking the pic?
Won a Pulitzer and then committed suicide...

No way -- not looking at that SIERRA.

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Lisa C.

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it just makes me mad that

it just makes me mad that the photographer did not help that 3 yearold in anyway... I would have atleast killed the buzzard and took the kid to get some food.. I cannot beleive the guy could just let the kid struggle!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

ahhh, yes... the

ahhh, yes... the Creature...or, the Mark...

While there is something of a biblical prospect

to this concept, I based that prognosis on a rational and logical examination of history, political/social/economic trends, current problems with food production, statements made by past and current leaders and just plain old instinctual knowledge. To be sure, I am totally familiar with the biblical prophecies along this line and consider it to be more than mere coincidence that such is happening at this time. It also will coincide with observable celestial events, the time line of the Mayan calendar, the I Ching, a recent deciphering of what has been called "the lost book of Nostradamus" and much other in the way of arcane and esoteric knowledge, teachings and writings. I tie in to this that the modern fractional reserve banking system was first devised by the clerics of the "Temple of the Sun God" in about 700 B. C. in Medo-Persia and has a lineage going back to Babylon and Sumeria. I also do not neglect the prophecies of Native American shamans or their spiritual cousins in Africa. Do not forget, either, that the planning of the world's ruling oligarchy is all based on the false premises of the economic theories of Thomas Malthus. Everything points to what I call "SHTF Day" . Only, it is moving faster than I thought it would.

Your post makes me happy I'm a Diest.

How do you get to sleep at night?

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Lisa C.

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I close my eyes

and drift off to netherland. I am also a deist and believe that the cosmic consciousness of the universe interacted with the consciousness of the earth and impregnated her to bring forth life. Therefore, all life on this planet is properly the child of God. I also believe that as we aspire to higher consciousness within our lives we extend our awareness to all of that life with which we have common ancestry and eventually arrive at a conscious realization of the relationship we have with our mother the earth and our father,. the cosmic consciousness of the universe. I also find that the bible is an attempt to explain to man the nature of this relationship, but it can only be understood on a personal level by the development of personal consciousness. Within this belief grows an understanding of the nature of the Messiah as (what is described in Hindu) an avatar. A forerunner of what mankind is to become if he but wakes to the realities of life. We approach now a set of cusps or decision points and the decisions mankind makes as a conscious entity will determine his future. To that extent, I am dedicated to being a part of deriving the proper decisions. Therefore, it is incumbent upon me to be a part of the solution and to aid in the education of others even as there are those that work to educate me. My greatest awe is at the workings of the universe and the process by which mankind is being refined. There is an element of the mechanistic to it and this was understood by the ancient men of knowledge that mapped out and studied the workings of the universe. But, they also understood the nature of the consciousness of the universe and the relationship of man to the earth mother and knew that the total process is one that goes far beyond the mere mechanical operation of cosmos. So, I continue my studies of all knowledge as my inner being may direct my studies and continue my interactions with others that I may have what I hope to be a positive effect. How do I sleep? Very soundly.

where do you people get this

where do you people get this stuff?? mental masturbation.... its all it is!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Happy to hear visit the Netherlands in your sleep.

A Deist, however, you are not.

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Lisa C.

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BTW

I am, by nature, a night owl and my circadian rhythm is such that I find it more restful to sleep during the day. Perhaps a short story could explain it better.
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Then consider that the constant movement of life is in a constant direction towards the higher consciousness that may be attained and that man may only gain his proper position within this structure we call life by a growing consciousness. Yes there is a mechanistic nature of this, and the perspective of viewing God as a watchmaker would be accurate, but it would seem odd to think of this overall creator of all as a person that would render a creation without consciousness and will of its own. This is a pattern that is repeated throughout creation. Thus I conceive of God as a computer program and we are a subroutine that has been given free will and liberty as part of a grand experiment. The full nature of this program is something I have not yet discerned, but it is getting interesting. I know this - that the mind of man is the most powerful tool on the surface of the earth. I also know that to deny the conclusions I derive on a synthesis of facts using those means of reason, logic and rational thought with which I am endowed by my creator, is to deny the very nature of freedom and liberty as well as my own existence. Something now for you to think about - Man has been called the only animal that dies before he matures, does this mean he matures after he dies?

I don't think about death.

My purpose is to live.

Goodnight.

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Lisa C.

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Chaps!

I thought many of you might enjoy these links. I know I do.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://thepioneerwoman.co...
http://thepioneerwoman.co...

Small farms should be encouraged . . . .

. . . . to flourish around the globe, even the Himalayan people at 9,000 feet can feed themselves nutritionally superior and more food than can be provided by industrialized marginal foods.
Eating raw is superiour to eating cooked foods. Did you know that the carrot tops have more nutrition than the carrot itself. We're talking nutrition, not pancakes.
A return to "agri-suburbs" has begun and is a welcome lifestyle.
Combining the technologies of communication/educational/entertainment and the demand for wholesome organic locally grown raw foods, small farmers are gaining respect. A good farmer allows the land to rest a year, allow the weeds to grow down deep, reach deeper into the soil and absorb the nutrients. . . . then plow the weeds under, providing fresh nutrients and minerals top soil available into the new food crop .
Artificial fertilizers made by Monzanto and any oil/cow manure based fertilizers provide only harmful bacteria and frankenstein side affects, and very little useable nutrition. Our land is being stolen and sold to the highest bidder. Yet our land is priceless. So are the flowers, birds and bees that come with it.
Assist those around the world by providing local wells and encourage a loving farmer with a small farm. No super corridor of "rape and pillage" should be allowed in the name of "a starving" world. It's a scam to extract resources at break-neck speed.
The industrial production of meat is a disaterous way to feed the planet.
Please book mark www.madcowboy.com
Bring back the small farms around the world, and we will halt starvation.
Choose to eat a plant-centered diet. Eat more organic, locally grown vegetables and grains, less meat, less dairy. Eat as close to vegetarian as you are comfortable with.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

yep I agree.... 5 to 10 acre

yep I agree.... 5 to 10 acre farms are great!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Thanks for the link. It's

Thanks for the link. It's bookmarked.

Recently my state has been ravaged by historic flooding. The flood waters are more of a thick brown syrup rather than water. It makes me wonder if that syrup is what's left of our top soil. I heard somewhere that the top soil has been ruined by pesticides and that it no longer holds moisture very well. I wonder if that is true, and if it is, could that have contributed to the amount of flooding?

Our well water is loaded with nitrates. Tank truck after tank truck drive past our house twice a year loaded with fertilizer from the new hog confinement buildings that were quickly built before new government regulations went into effect. I wonder if that is what's poisoning our water.

I don't know the answer.

Out with the old foods that have made us all sick . . .

. . . and in with the new, "live," fresh foods that give us new life. Realdeal, your series of events reminded me of the changes raw foods made in my life. I became a rawfooder for health, and it cleanses out the toxins (nitrates) that we have ingested.

The link www.madcowboy.com explains nitrates in soil. And discusses many other topics like desertification . . .the process of becoming desert . . . as from land mismanagement (about 11 feet of top soil swept away via the tributaries emptying into the Missouri/Mississippi Rivers into the Gulf of Mexico, where toxins have created an ecological dead zone.

Interesting!

The company I work for, Mobile Solar Power, makes portable solar generators that are used for all kinds of things, including home power for those with no access to the utility grid. I am NOT trying to use the boards to promote my business, just want to let you all know that there are some options out there for self-sufficient electricity in the event that things go poorly in the upcoming months/years. www.mobilesolarpower.net

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any rough statistics of how many acres of farm land it takes to support a person for a year? I've been wondering what you would need to grow 100% of your own food each year, assuming you can do a good amount of canning and possibly even make your own flour.

If you're smart about it, you can do it on the average,

suburban 1/4 lot. One of the most important things is aspect. If you backyard faces south that is a plus.

Recently saw a documentary about a family living in LA who lived on much less than a quarter acre (with a small backyard) and is totally self-sufficient. It took planning and work but their garden was amazing.

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Here's the family.

My figures for them were a little off in my head but this family is impressive. If they can "farm" in Pasadena, just about anyone should be able to do it.

http://www.dervaesinstitu...

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Lisa C.

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Enjoyed the article.

Thanks.

This past week I heard a Christian radio host talking with guests about churches who are converting their expensive "golf course" lawns into community gardens. 'Bout time.

Wow

pretty amazing. 1/10th of an acre? Just goes to show you how inefficient we are in a lot of ways.

Even the houses are built to be inefficient straight from the

start. One of my degrees is in Energy Studies and I specialized in energy efficiency and passive-solar design and I cringe at what passes for 4 and 5-star rated homes. They are measures designed by someone at the Department of Energy and are the bare minimum to get by.

If I could give a home buyer ONE tip (and, believe me I got plenty), it would be to make sure the living areas of their home face south. So this would be, for many people, where your sliding glass doors are and maybe a couple of other windows.

Anyway, I totally agree, we are inefficient and have lost many skills. I've just begun a six-course certificate in self-sufficiency and I shake my head at the stuff I'm learning. I should already know how to keep chickens, make preserves, plan a kitchen garden, make flour and cheese, etc. As humans, generally speaking, Americans have become complete failures. I include myself totally.

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Lisa C.

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Lisa? do you know anything

Lisa?
do you know anything about a system that heats and cools a home by using under ground pipes to heat water and then carry it to the house?

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Geothermal heating/cooling.

Geothermal heating/cooling. My alma mater installed a fairly large geothermal system which circulated water from underground. During the winters it helped to heat the buildings and during the summers it helped to cool them.

A family member also does the same using water from an artesian well. Supposedly that water remains around the same temperature year-round.

Yep -- UC Davis?

My next home will have a passive solar design along with geothermal. Keeps your home in the mid-70s no matter what season so I am told. Goes well with polished concrete floors.

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Lisa C.

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Haha!

>>As humans, generally speaking, Americans have become complete failures
I said that exact same thing to a friend yesterday. Except I said 'suburbanites' instead of 'Americans'.

Not that anyone cares. I just wanted an excuse to post in this incredibly long and painful-to-read comment thread.

My Shelfari page

THESE homes aren't inefficient........AND they are sturdy..

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Monolithic Dome Homes

http://static.monolithic....

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

Bucky would be proud.

Too bad many Americans find them ugly. I'd rather live in an "ugly" house than a too cold or too hot fake "Santa Fe", stucco and chicken wire piece of nonsense.

Nice. Do you live in a dome?

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No....but...

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My brother almost had one built in Oregon.

I'm from texas originally, and we actually vistited the headquarters of that monolithic dome manufacturer in Texas in about 2002.

They are truly amazing.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

In Italy, Texas? I've been

In Italy, Texas? I've been there too.

Concrete is the best building material, and monolithic domes use the best architectural shape.

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I think row upon row of

I think row upon row of cookie-cutter, identical tract houses in suburban wasteland to be much more ugly. But they do epitomize the sheeplike, follow-the-herd mentality of most Americans nowadays, so maybe they are appropriate for the times.

Agreed!

Agreed!

It's pretty bad when people are too afraid to even paint

their front doors a color other than "Desert Sand". Worse still are the subdivisions that have rules down to what kind of flowers you can plant in your front yard.

Sheep like it that way. Makes them feel snuggly and safe.

Greetings, BTW.

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CC&Rs

I live in just such a community (renter). And yep, they have their little HOA patrols walk around the neighborhood with clipboard in hand, and if the paint is fading on your front door, or if your grass isn't clipped just so, or if you swap out flowers in your garden without their prior approval (!) you get a letter and usually a fine.

Our own HOA just issued a notice of an activity that is now banned anywhere in the common areas (sidewalks, curbs, streets, our little community park): the use of sidewalk chalk. This news was revealed to me the day after I bought a box of 52 colorful sidewalk chalk sticks for my 6-year-old for her birthday...

Home Association Fun

At the beginning of the dark age ( before we had a entrenched community association ) a group of sheeple started to award each other with a monthly "yard of the month" award. A nice sign was transfered from month to month and placed in the nice yards.

Once in a while some "hippies" would steal the sign and place it in their own yard next to the old fridge. Since half their yard was clay dirt it was always a good laugh. When the "association" took over they told me I couldn't keep my vintage camping trailer in my own driveway. I put up a huge for sale sign that week.

The police gave ma a warning saying my forsale sign was too large. I asked them to show me where in the law. I has so much fun my last days. I did feel sad for them... I'd spend several hours a week working on my veggie garden and fruit trees and even a blueberry bush, and they'd spend several hours a week on plain old green grass.

Ramblin Randy

Sad -- thanks for sharing.

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How funny, and how sad! I

How funny, and how sad! I guess it's true what they say, Fascism DOES begin at home!

That's insane, absurd, and

That's insane, absurd, and makes me want to vomit! No wonder the sheep are so willing to give up their freedoms to the government --- they're already giving up their freedoms to the neighborhood quasi-government.