Manystrom....
Posted June 25th, 2008 by Tessie101
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I would like to start a thread to ask people here if they have or are offended with the comments that JUSTCANTGETENOUGH has made, and the horrible remarks he makes to people because some of us do not like his BARR tag line, or his BARR rhetoric.
If the response is what I think it will be, which will be more than 60-70 percent of those that regularly post here, I ask that you remove this individual's posting priviledges for creating, and bolstering hositility within your website. This person has continually touted Barr, and I personally thought this was a site for Ron Paul, and his message, if I am wrong please let me know so I can leave, and stick to the Campaign for Liberty website that Ron Paul has initiated.
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Iron sharpens iron
consider it a learning experience and move beyond it. NEXT........
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Sounds great! Bump
Sounds great! Bump
I don't mind seeing posts
I don't mind seeing posts about him, as I feel people should be able to freely talk about their candidate. What I resent is having him crammed down our throats as "the only one we should vote for because Barr people think he is the only one who can win" I highly resent the write in for ROn Paul directing people to Barr, it is underhanded and sneaky, and I can't speak for all the rest, but its exactly those type attempts that make me determined to never vote for him. I basically would like to see Barr supporters use a little respect for others, while they are pushing their candidate-its fine they believe in him, but each person has the right to choose who they want to support-just because we all come here, doesn't mean we all have to vote for Barr.
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We have an "ignore" feature
It's called DON'T RESPOND TO ANY OF HIS/HER POSTS!
E x a c t l y
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Barr is going to be on Glenn Beck Show tonight at 7 PM EST.
Be sure to watch Bob Barr campaigning for liberty.
He needs 15% polling support to make it into the debates. If he doesn't make it in, there will be no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the debates. Don't let the message of limited government disappear from the news - use the passion Dr. Paul helped inspire to get the message in the nationally-televised Presidential Debates and in the news. As Dr. Paul has said many times, "it's about the message."
In case you're wondering, Barr is Dr. Paul approved:
Wolf Blitzer: "What do you think about Barr?"
Ron Paul: "Well I think he's running a very important race, and I'm encouraging him. I haven't endorsed him, but he's saying the kind of things I like to be heard and said. I hope he does real well. But, we also have Chuck Baldwin who runs on the Constitutional Party. His views are very very close to mine, and he worked very hard in my campaign. So for me to pick one over the other is not easy. I hope they both together get a lot of votes." http://www.dailypaul.com/...
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Go back to the daily Barr!
he is a neocon in sheep's clothes.
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It's about THE MESSAGE.
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I thought the message was about CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS
Something you have an extremely hard time grasping let alone typing.
Last night
Last night at our local CFL meeting, there was a Bob Barr Booster making his play and one of our Patriots said "That's a lesser of three evils argument". Cracked me up! And he didn't even know that Barr used to work for the CIA. When I told him, he literally almost choked on his burger.
Two of Dr. Paul's campaign advisers worked for the CIA
including Michael Scheurer who Dr. Paul often cites, and who supported Paul. Barr worked as a lawyer for the CIA 30 years ago. Why are some people so paranoid about that? Can you explain?
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I understand your plight.
When it's obvious that he is not here to do anything constructive then he should not be a part of the discussion.
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is all about supporting and getting Liberty minded candidates into Washington. Whether it is through the Democrat party, Republican party, Constitution party, Libertarian party, ect...
The Daily Paul is dedicated to getting Ron Paul elected as our President. Well Dr. Paul has indicated that he will not be our next president. So....now the Daily Paul is also in support of the Campaign for Liberty project and also always has been. Why are we rejecting Liberty minded candidates for president. Doesn't ALL offices in Washington include the White House? I agree that JUSTCANTGETENOUGH is annoying everyone, including myself. However, why are we fighting against Bob Barr? He WANTED Ron Paul to be the Libertarian presidential candidate, yet RP wouldn't take it, so he has stepped into that role to help our initiative. Chuck Baldwin also stepped up and is running for president, yet some are against him. What is going on here?? Everyone here even if you don't agree with everything about them or past decisions, should be pulling for them. It doesn't matter which one, both should have the respect of all freedom loving Americans.
who is JUSTCANTGETENOUGH?
Okay, I recognize the handle, and I assume you're accurate about him/her being a Barr supporter. But my point is I don't have a strong impression of him/her. Nothing personal. I don't have a strong impression of anyone on this forum.
I don't have a strong impression of anyone on this forum because I pay much more attention to WHAT is being posted rather than WHO is saying it, and I often do not connect the WHO with the WHAT. In these types of discussions, rarely does taking into account WHO is saying the words help interpret them accurately, and often may just bias me. That is, I take each post that I read on its own, and evaluate what is being said as objectively as I can. If it's juvenile insulting, and this forum has its share of it, I ignore it as best as I can and move on.
Why can't you?
Finally, it is contrary to the spirit of liberty to ban anyone, unless they do something that violates the rights of someone else, or threatens to violate those rights.
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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No wonder you can't piece together 9/11. IF you cant even tell who post what, then you are nothing less than a calculator awating instruction and have no cognative reasoning.
You have disturbingly poor reading comprehension, oruval
I can tell who posts what, Oruval, I just rarely find it to be relevant to anything important, including cognitive processing of the words posted, so I choose to not pay much attention to it. It's intentional.
It's calling being objective. You should try it some time.
Do you need to know who wrote these words in order to understand what they mean? I hope not. In fact, to the extent that knowledge of who wrote them colors your interpretation of their meaning, that is more likely to inhibit rather than enhance comprehension.
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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It's called learning
do I need to spell it out for you? If someone posts the same rhetoric over and over they are doing it for a purpose. You begin to see the patterns of that person. Go ahead and be ignorant. Yes I used "ignorant" because you are ignoring what a persons voice is and only focusing on the content. Once again that is why you cant seem to rub two brain cells together to come to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.
False dichotomy
Oruval,
I'm not totally ignoring anyone's voice and only focusing on the content. But I am aware of doing that too much, and try to avoid it. I repeat, there is no point for establishing whether anyone can be trusted or not on this forum. No one is dating your daughter, or driving you somewhere, or doing anything else that requires you to trust them. We're all just posting harmless words on an internet forum. Either the words in any given post are coherent and based in fact, reason, logic and acceptable precepts, or they are not. That is true whether you "trust" the poster or not. Nothing should be interpreted based on whether we "trust" the given poster or not.
As to 9/11, it's you truthers who take words out of context and misinterpret them maliciously (like Silverstein's "pull it" statement which was clearly referring to the team of firemen inWTC7, not the building itself as truthers claim) in order to rationalize basis for your hallucination that 9/11 was an inside job.
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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Hi Tessie,
I recently posted of my intention to end all future snarky and bitchy comments. I lapsed a couple times, falling for taunts from Bob Barr fans. But I'm trying. That being said, I will try to reply to your post as respectfully as I am able.
I understand your frustration. You can see by my previous comment that this is true. But I really think this post and the "People I don't trust" post are misguided and a bit immature. I don't like flagging. We lost some valuable ideas and some great examples of dailypaul writing by flagging. I believe ignoring unwanted and unwarranted comments is the way to go.
So I say, let these threads quietly disappear. Just my opinion.
You might be part of the problem if
You keep using up forum space to respond to people you don't like, don't trust, or don't agree with.
+1
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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I agree....
This guy is trouble.....and is hired by dis-info employer.
Flag down all posts.....
Do not comment on any of his posts....
and as he comes back other different names...(Easy to spot)
Just keep flagging them, and do not comment.
appreciate distinction between knowledge & conjecture
What is the basis for your claim that "this guy" "is hired by dis-info employer?"
Or is this just conjecture on your part?
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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Absolutely!
ivehadjustaboutenough!
He adds no value as a member. I have seen nothing but rude, antagonizing
and insulting comments towards many VALUED members. Tessie is not the only one.
'IT' has and is polluting the air here at the Daily Paul and is distracting
from more important issue's.
SHOW THIS TROLL THE DOOR!
If the 'flag' feature was reinstated with a thousand flags 'IT' would already be gone.
We don't need a babysitter
If you do not respond to a post...it will go away. It's just that simple.
+2
"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."
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Agreed - too many nannies
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I can guarantee one thing
And that's if something isn't done to deal with the disruptors, there will be alot of real posters who aren't going to remain here.
And the site will be a shell, consisting of the remaining charlatans trying to argue with each other, and deceive any innocent poster that might wander in unknowingly.
Sort of like the old joke that goes like this:
"What's the definition of a KKK meeting"?
"50 FBI agents in robes waiting for a sucker".
The end.
You have a way
of getting right to the point. I have never flagged anyone when we had the option. I really don't like to censor anyone, but this whole thing with 3 or 4 people stalking every debate for the obvious sole purpose of causing trouble needs to be looked at. There are a lot of people not here anymore, and maybe that is the reason and also their goal.
Big T ...that is their plan
and I agree that if we allow it to continue ...this site will go downhill and here we are trying to gain more support ..what does a new person see? I often think how Ron Paul would react seeing the crap we allow here and the distraction when we have so many positive and serious issues to be working on!
Another important point! BigT
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this site hasnt been about ron paul for a long, long time.
E Pluribus Unum...
.....Out of many, one.
The "hostility"
comes from inside you. I don't make anyone hostile. The hostility is already there.
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calling people names isn't hostile?
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I called her a "she-male"
after she said this about me: ""I bet he would feel rather dumb if he met this military trained female one on one in a dark alley, but then again I don't think he would have the balls to come to California so I could beat his ass at just about anything."
She created that image of herself.
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"Mommy! Mommy! She's
"Mommy! Mommy! She's scaring me! It's not fair! Make her stop! Wahh wahhh wahhhhhhhhh!"
you are aware that Manystrom can read, right...
I won't bother to digg up all the crap you have posted.
I beg of you
Bring up what I've posted. I've been civil here. You've never seen me do anything like you see the poster "akak" doing below.
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Troll, let me be as polite
Troll, let me be as polite as you deserve --- FUCK OFF!
Justcantgetenough
This poster from what I can tell, has two aims:
1- to put a lot of stuff about Bob Barr on here (I think he wants to turn people OFF Barr)
2- to make us look stupid, particularly by continually bringing truther threads to the front.
Unfortunately posters here play into his hands.
All you guys are so invested in this 911 theory of government planning that you don't see how demented and utterly stupid it looks if you don't believe it. I do NOT mean doubting the official story, I mean rockets hitting Pentagon, controlled demolition, voice recordings faked etc. Sorry to break it to you but judged from this site, Ron Paul supporters look as kooky and crazy as the MSM makes us out to be and billydee whoever is giving us rope to hang ourselves.
I disagree
I may not always agree with what he says but his opinions are liberty oriented.
When we agree not to treat each other merely as a means to our own selfish ends, but to respect one another as individuals with rights and goals of our own, cooperation and goodwill suddenly become possible for the first time.
-Ron Paul
I suspect a lot of the dislike towards JUSTCANTGETENOUGH and others dubbed trolls, is due to the fear that they may change people's opinions. However, the second we silence opposing views we are no different than the Republican war hawks who label us unpatriotic and un-republican. The tent of liberty is large, we need to learn to work together and if we cannot; to at least live together peacefully.
+1
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nah
"I suspect a lot of the dislike towards JUSTCANTGETENOUGH and others dubbed trolls, is due to the fear that they may change people's opinions."
he's not doing a very good job.
my opinion of barr has not changed much in the last 10+ years but as RP said "he is saying the right things" NOW.
he will need to repent for a few more years before i even look his way.
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We need a Ignore button
By clicking Ignore, all of that persons posts will disappear from view. This button would solve a whole lot of problems with posters causing headaches and misery. If people still wish to view the posts, they don't have to click the button, it's each persons choice. Ignore does not violate anyones freedom of speech because each user here still has the option to ignore, or not ignore.
Here is the link to the ignore user module. Please, we gotta have it :-)
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That's a good idea. An
That's a good idea.
An Ignore filter would go a long way toward upgrading discussions on this site.
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The quibbling yeah, but I
The quibbling yeah, but I don't get involved as it can only get personal. The tag line no. The suspect has a right to their opinion. Paul says Barr is an ally , are friends, and worked together on numerous occasions. Why should Barr be oppressed and omitted from debate? Why are Barr's faults greater than that of Obama? How come Baldwin sympathizers get more slack than Barr sympathizers? Yeah this DailyPaul but there is plenty of discussion about a great many subjects involving people other than Paul. If you remove all of that content and try to make DP a shrine to worship Paul all you will get is a place were people post nothing but what Paul said about Barr or what Paul said about Baldwin.
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he will just change his name
he will just change his name to something like billy deee or onevoiceoftreason etc.
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