LET bedr1's forum die out! Respond here to (better1):"False hope"? No, I don't think so.
Posted June 29th, 2008 by 4Constitution
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False Hope is spread from a year ago when noone knew Dr. Paul's name to scoring in the 20% range for the last four states with no media coverage whatsoever. So, if you don't think the Nevada win helps the campaignforliberty.com grow you are a fool, you say "the win changes nothing" when it truly creates more of a bond and determination to GROW this revolution.
Ron Paul has suspended his campaign which really changes NOTHING. Smart move on his part to expand this movemet, but does not mean that he cannot continue to go stealth and capture more undecided and unbound delegates. Are the chances slim, yes, but I remember a man going from zero chance to slim chance to lets go to the convention and continue on. He is still going and still spreading the message. The only way to represent and get the platforms, which are of utmost importance is to continue all the way to the national convention. What you say is not in all truth and should not be encouraging others to jump ship AT ALL!
The delegates and others for this Revolution want to go all the way or die trying. You may not get that, but it is the truth. We are in the 9th round with are eyes all bloodied and our noses broken, but we are standing up and the fight continues. Don't even think for a minute this changes nothing! What happened in Nevada is just the beginning and how dare you post otherwise. **ding ding** Let's GO Revolutionaries!!
P.S. Remember not all delegates are bound to vote for McCain. Ron Paul has suspended his campaign, does not mean if he takes a few more states he cannot bring it back, may not happen, but we still have to do this work, plus we still have to show up at the nationals and vote on the platforms. Add platforms here as well. Also, rememeber we all need to be contacting congress and telling them what we like and don't like. www.congress.org.
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Thank you for your determination
I have never lost hope in you delegates. I am 100% Ron Paul and 100% behind all the delegates. There is adifferent kind of power behind you than there is for the other candidates. It is called emotion, Ron Paul supporters can feel their support, that is what makes all the difference in the world, is the emotion you have inside of you, it can move mountains. It is the same emotion that won the Revolutionary War. You carry the emotion of our forefathers and all those patriots that died before you to preserve our Freedoms. That is true power, and if there was only one Ron Paul delegate going to the convention, I would still have hope because the fight is in you. It is great to see you hold onto that fire, and I have faith that it holds true for all delegates on the Ron Paul side. This is why I always emphasized the necessity to show our unity on this site for Ron Paul, our unity is hugely important for our delegates morale. Please check out this site www.dvds4delegates.com, we are trying to get you some friends at the convention. Your post reinforces how important www.dvds4delegates.com truly is. It is for our delegates everyone!! Keep up the great work, and hold onto that fire. Ron Paul all the way, we believe in you!!!!!!
This was in response to
This was in response to bedr1 a while back and I see he is still here attempting to get people to vote for Barr.
I recently was sent a post for a new meetup as well for like-minded, faith-action, liberty minded folks to get together and network for travel and accommodations to get to St. Paul. At least that is what the goal has been given to me and so far they have about five people that will drive back to St. Paul from San Diego to Oregon. I thought you might want to check it out. http://www.ronpaul.meetup...
Also, as you know the ticket bomb is tomorrow, do you think that we should encourage everyone to purchase a ticket anyway?
dvd4delegates was passed around to about 36 meetups per day by me for about a week. Only took a few minutes to do, but it was worth the time to pass this on to RP meetups across the nation. 12 per email. per day!! I also requested Jdayh to do that on there forum for capturing delegates at the National Convention, so important!!
Voting for Barr
is not taking away from Dr. Paul.
Never mind. I see that you think that Dr. Paul can actually win the nomination.
Are you
talking about this Bob Barr? http://www.youtube.com/wa...
can I add this to my posts??
can I add this to my posts??
Its taking away from our delegates preferred
our delegates who are sacrificing time and money for people like you and me. It is taking away from everything we believe in and have worked for this far. Please rethink your reply.
I don't see how.
I'm sure some of those delgates will be voting for Barr. Any delegate who thinks that Paul is going to be nominated is not living in the real world. The delegates for Paul are simply a show of support for Paul's philosophy.
I am sure some here
wish you were not in the real world.
Ever hear the story about
Ever hear the story about the two farmers that were praying for rain? One farmer went out and prepared his crops. The other, well reminds me of this guy!
And that is what we need for
And that is what we need for people to do ....simply believe.
Don't you think 20% in the last four states
had something to do with there being only two candidates left in the race?
I don't want to be the party crasher, but I think that had something to do with it.
Actually, I think it had
Actually, I think it had something to do with the fact that Americans are waking up and realizing we do have a problem with our nation and its leaders. i think they realize that when our nation used to kiss the ground that we walk on and buy American and all the other things that made us feel proud to be American have slowly dissolved away to a nation of depressed individuals, tired of the 60 hour work week and not truly advancing, credit poor just like our exampes in our govt. they woke up and heard a song called the RP Revolution or Hope for America anthem, they saw the campaignforliberty website grow from zero to 50,000 in four days and they said; "WE THE PEOPLE" need to do the something that will create the TRUE CHANGE in America. That is only part of what I think. And you needed to probably read the post from bedr1 to really understand my response. Thanks though!
I hope
you're right.
and RP just moved to a
and RP just moved to a bigger venue, another good sign....Do we want him in the Whitehouse, of course, but we still have Rand 4 years from now to focus on....if our country makes it past this current administration.
This guy is a RP supporter
This guy is a RP supporter running for Congress. http://www.jamessmack.com...
Can you imagine voting for a LAWYER to be
the President of the United States of America
There's been enough of them
BOB BARR IS A LAWYER
BOB BARR IS PUTTING GOOD SPIN ON HIS VOTE FOR THE PATRIOT ACT
BOB BARR IS SOFT ON THE 2nd AMENDMENT
remember this?
remember this?
I forgot to mention
that whenever G. Beck asked him about monetary policy - he hummed and hawed generalities - he was a riot to watch! RonPaul2008
Sorry about
the double post
I forgot to mention
that whenever G. Beck asked him about monetary policy - he hummed and hawed generalities - he was a riot to watch! RonPaul2008
No Problem....So, we really
No Problem....So, we really have NO CHOICE at all, but people will vote AGAINST the others continually and we will end up with what we end up with, unless we have HOPE and ask for a miracle.
BJ lawson is actually on RP's site, so we should support him.
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Quote: "Don't even think for a minute this changes nothing!"
"It´s not over until it´s over!" (Ron Paul)
Nevada must be a beautiful state!
Every interaction we do
Every interaction we do changes something....We are just a society of immediate gratification and with the RP movement it is slower than we would like....Keep up the message of Freedom.
Bedr1 is riding the bump button
self-bumping all his threads to keep them on the top.
I just bumped 10 good RP posts, and then Bedr1's post popped right back there on top again.
We're gonna have to keep pushing him off the page.
Most definetely. Any
Most definetely. Any negativity does not have its place here. We know reality, but we also know hope and it is alive. I mean what did a lot of RP's campaign signs say "Hope For America"
Bump!
Yeah the guy with all the negative posts just keeps posting more I think he's added a few more since this morning.All negative.He posted a set of rules and claimed you had to win five states to place a nomination from the floor.Actualy the rules state that you need a majority of the delegates from five states to make a motion for nomination.(clarification)
The point is that we do
The point is that we do still have a chance by spreading the message and voting in people like james Samck and Chris Dyer and BJ Lawson. That is why Paul started his site, so we could no who to support in the upcoming elections and who to donate to without being blind.
We also will clean things up from the bottom up!!!!!!!!
Ron Paul in the White House, maybe!! More awake Americans and more than just Ron Paul, definetely!
Donate to BJLawson today!!
I like this thread
much better than the thread from the guy with no hope.
and the people with hope
and the people with hope make stuff happen!!
This is a great thread. I don't have to read his thread.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
have you seen BJ Lawson's
have you seen BJ Lawson's website ( a RP candidate?) What do you think about the www.dvd4delegates website?
Anything to get people posting away from better1.
The link didn't work, but I guess I just need to add .com?
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Sorry about that. I guess
Sorry about that. I guess you do have to add it, strange. They ask for a lot of info on that site.
Now he has 3 active topics!
The more he does this ....the more obvious it becomes how important the Nevada results are!! Ha! ha!
Please dont respond to his topics!!
And he's bumping his own threads!
Pure troll tactics
I don't think Mccain would
I don't think Mccain would have mentioned it in his interview last week if Nevada was at all non-important. we just need to get the word out about it and get it on the campaignforliberty website. I hope they post something soon. KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!
Maybe even contact the media in each state to get some information going. Or the GOP in other states that have already had their convention of course. I think there are at least four states left...go stealth if you are outnumbered, but get the important platforms in there.
he keeps changing the title
now it is: people are turning th Nevada state convention into a disinformation hub.
I change my title sometimes
I change my title sometimes to, to reflect what he is doing. Have you seen the BJ Lawson vid?
I agree. It's better to respond here.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Have you been on the CFL
Have you been on the CFL site? BJ Lawson money bomb toady. Are you rom there or do you know anyone from there? We need to pass this on to all the meetups. He is a pretty great speaker and looks as if he is pretty bold from the vid posted.
BJ Lawson money bomb today,
BJ Lawson money bomb today, endorsed by Ron Paul.
Bump...
Positive posts like this is what makes us stronger, and united. Thank you.
That is exactly what we need
That is exactly what we need to do is UNITE!! We have to change our government from the bottom up. Nevada is doing just that!
A big positive
.......bump............
Thanks for that. So many
Thanks for that. So many positive things are going on:
Like the 64,000 that signed up on the campaignforliberty website.
Like the dvd4delegates
Like Nevada
How about the 20+ percentage points in the remaining states with no media coverage for Ron Paul.
How about now he can use that campaign money
How about the book signing on September 1 and the rally on September 2
How about Ron Paul still asking all the credentialed delegates to go to the Nationals and continue on, but asking all other delegates to go to his rally on Sept. 2.
Pennsylvania
maybe? I don't really know.....just guessing
Not sure what you mean. The
Not sure what you mean. The other part of five states we need for Paul. Do you think everyone is really disclosing though? I mean if they really went stealth in several states how are the counting how they are going to vote. Wouldn't some of the Paul people made it on the slate for McCain??
Now
if everyone would just post their comments/thoughts about Nevada's news on this thread, or the quorum thread, rather than bedr1's, then it's negative post would just fall off the page...where it deserves to be. Don't rain on my parade.
again a lot of states are
again a lot of states are still having there state Convention. We can still spread this message to New mexico's list of delegates. I know I posted that on jdahy's thread and we can still get the message out there about our Civil Liberties.
Remember not all delegates are bound to vote for McCain!!
I'll tell you what's "false hope"...
...it's pretending that a neocon plant who voted for the U.S.A./Viet Dinh "Patriot" Act is somehow a leader of a "liberty movement."
The Ron Paul for President 2008 grassroots campaign is continuing, whether the disinfo troll(s) like(s) it or not.
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