Morality and Economy
In light of some of the dire news that is coming out about the likely future of the economy, I thought I would open up a new line of discussion.
I think sometimes, people lose sight of the difference between socialism and compassionate action.
Socialism is inherently violent, as force is used to coerce people into doing things for the alleged benefit of the greater good. However, this does not imply that is inherently wrong to take on unselfish actions. Indeed, when money works properly, it works because it facilitates co-operation amongst people, which leads to better results for all then everyone acting solely in their immediate shot term interest.
This principle finds support from both religous and secular perspectives. The religous perspective is probably plain enough. From the secular perspective, there is the concept of the evolution of altruism.
EDIT: Skip this part if it doesn't interest you. I'm a bit of a science nerd.
Altruism in ethology and evolutionary biology
Main articles: Altruism in animals and Evolutionary ethics
In the science of ethology (the study of animal behavior), and more generally in the study of social evolution, altruism refers to behavior by an individual that increases the fitness of another individual while decreasing the fitness of the actor.[citation needed] Researchers on alleged altruist behaviours among animals have been ideologically opposed to the social darwinist concept of the "survival of the fittest", under the name of "survival of the nicest"—the latter being globally compatible, however, with darwinist' theory of evolution. Insistence on such cooperative behaviours between animals was first exposed by the Russian zoologist and anarchist Peter Kropotkin in his 1902 book, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution.
Recent developments in game theory (see ultimatum game) have provided some explanations for apparent altruism, as have traditional evolutionary analyses. Among the proposed mechanisms are:
Behavioural manipulation (for example, by certain parasites that can alter the behavior of the host)
Bounded rationality (for example, Herbert Simon)
Conscience
Kin selection including eusociality (see also "selfish gene")
Memes (by influencing behavior to favour their own spread, for example, religion)
Reciprocal altruism, mutual aid
Selective investment theory [6] - a theoretical proposal for the evolution of long-term, high-cost altruism
Sexual selection, in particular, the Handicap principle
Reciprocity (social psychology)
Indirect reciprocity (for example, reputation)
Strong reciprocity[7]
Pseudo-reciprocity
The study of altruism was the initial impetus behind George R. Price's development of the Price equation which is a mathematical equation used to study genetic evolution. An interesting example of altruism is found in the cellular slime moulds, such as Dictyostelium mucoroides. These protists live as individual amoebae until starved, at which point they aggregate and form a multicellular fruiting body in which some cells sacrifice themselves to promote the survival of other cells in the fruiting body. Social behavior and altruism share many similarities to the interactions between the many parts (cells, genes) of an organism, but are distinguished by the ability of each individual to reproduce indefinitely without an absolute requirement for its neighbors.
Jorge Moll and Jordan Grafman, neuroscientists at the National Institutes of Health and LABS-D'Or Hospital Network (J.M.) provided the first evidence for the neural bases of altruistic giving in normal healthy volunteers, using functional magnetic resonance imaging. In their research, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA in October, 2006,[8] they showed that both pure monetary rewards and charitable donations activated the mesolimbic reward pathway, a primitive part of the brain that usually lights up in response to food and sex. However, when volunteers generously placed their interests of others before their own by making charitable donations, another brain circuit was selectively activated: the subgenual cortex/septal region. These structures are intimately related to social attachment and bonding in other species. Altruism, the experiment suggested, was not a superior moral faculty that suppresses basic selfish urges but rather was basic to the brain, hard-wired and pleasurable.[9]
A new study by Samuel Bowles at the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico, US, is seen by some as breathing new life into the model of group selection for Altruism, known as "Survival of the nicest". Bowles conducted a genetic analysis of contemporary foraging groups, including Australian aboriginals, native Siberian Inuit populations and indigenous tribal groups in Africa. It was found that hunter-gatherer bands of up to 30 individuals were considerably more closely related than was previously thought. Under these conditions, thought to be similar to those of the middle and upper Paleolithic, altruism towards other group-members would improve the overall fitness of the group.
If an individual defended the group but was killed, any genes that the individual shared with the overall group would still be passed on. Early customs such as food sharing or monogamy could have levelled out the “cost” of altruistic behaviour, in the same way that income taxes redistribute income in society. He assembled genetic, climactic, archaeological, ethnographic and experimental data to examine the cost-benefit relationship of human cooperation in ancient populations. In his model, members of a group bearing genes for altruistic behaviour pay a "tax" by limiting their reproductive opportunities to benefit from sharing food and information, thereby increasing the average fitness of the group as well as their inter-relatedness. Bands of altruistic humans would then act together to gain resources from other groups at this challenging time in history.[10].
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Furthermore, not all actions that would be considered capitalistic are inherently moral. I'm sure many of us could make a great deal of money deceiving people who are of lower intelligence. In moral capitalism, one is motivated by one's self interest, but is bound by honesty and belief that one's self interest provides a general benefit to one's consumers or clients.
I mention this, because in economic hard times, there is the temptation to retreat into shells of "everyone for himself." Paradoxically, this will actually further the interests of the socialists and collectivists. If a hard economy decreases co-operative, productive economic behaviors, it will give more ammunition to the socialists who will argue that coercive force is necessary to get people to act against their own self interest and for the common good (of course, this is the bif lie of the socialists, in my opinion, that the two are separate, acting in one's true, long term self-interest is in fact in the best interests of the common good).
To put it another way, i would much rather work for free for the benefit of a neighbor, and do so of my own free will, then work under the barrel of a gun for the benefit of "all".
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INTEREST FREE LOAN
How often do you think about Interest Free Loans instead of Charitable Donations? I think that many people think about Donations as it was/is apparent during Ron Paul's Presidential campaign and Campaign for Liberty, but few people seem to think about Interest Free Loans. We should pay much more attention to Interest Free Loans, in my opinion. I did a quick on-line search on Interest Free Loan(s), and I did not find many interesting results. I can list them all, below. You migh have a better luck, though.
This was the most interesting article that I found.
A Culture of Dependency
http://www.chabad.org/par...
As far as organizations that offer Interest Free Loans without profit motives, these three Jewish organizations and one Christian organization were about the only ones that I could find.
http://www.hflasf.org/
http://www.hfls.org/about...
http://www.hflaclev.org/
http://www.churchextensio...
In addition, I found this article on: Where to Find Interest-Free College Loans.
http://www.usnews.com/usn...
Another interesting info that I found.
http://www.sdsugift.org/g...
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
A system that beats both types of looters in their own games, in
my opinion.
I told you last night that I have a plan. I should have said that I have a system that I have been experimenting for about 10 years. It is coming together for me. My goal is to come up with a profitable system that is driven by generosity rather than greed. I think it's difficult to discuss morality, but if being generous is profitable, not much discussion is needed, in my opinion.
By the way, to be clear, this is not a recommendation. This is not an advice, either. I'm simply writing my ideas for your information and for your entertainment. I've been experimenting this system for about 10 years with many trials and errors, and it is coming together for me, but it is not complete and I have no idea what might happen to you if you try. Also, I'm not going to describe any details.
In a nutshell, here is what I been trying to do.
1) Work and earn money. This is the starting point.
2) Give interest free loans to people who need money for productive purposes (no big deal, I loan money to people with a handshake, at this point.)
3) Also, put some money into various markets where greedy people gather.
4) Take money from the greedy people through the market activities. But, I don't want to claim this money as mine. I don't believe in something for nothing.
5) Back to 2) and repeat. But, I also have a day job.
Obviously, I'm doing this in a very small scale, but eventually, I believe that the step 2) will defeat Socialists and greedy money gaming looters and step 3) and 4) will defeat greedy money gaming looters in their own game, in my opinion. Please, keep in mind that this is a very broad overview and I'm not giving any details and this might be misleading. For example, I don't consider myself as a trader. I just take postions that I believe are very good based on my own research. But, whatever the gain I might realize, I have a very hard time claiming as mine since I don't believe in something for nothing. So, I send some portions of it to where I believe it is needed. If the loans are paid back, I'm thinking maybe I can claim at least part of the money, but maybe not. I haven’t figured that out, yet, but so far, I got only $60 back, so it‘s not so urgent to figure this out. But still, I'm keep getting more from the steps 1), 3) and 4), so I have no loss on the net.
I’d like to believe that I’m changing bad money into good money in this process.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Hey, John Galt, actually, there is a great plan that I have
been working on for the past 10 years or so. It's like your motor, only it takes people's greed instead of static electricity and change that into productive forces. It's actually quite simple. I will write again sometime tomorrow.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Nice post.
"I'm sure many of us could make a great deal of money deceiving people who are of lower intelligence."
That would be considered fraud, not capitalism. True capitalism is one of the highest moral acts.
Thanks for sharing.
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not necessarily
Fortune Favors the Bold
there are some things that are not outright fraud but which, through the use of weasel words, could easily cheat people of low intelligence.
Thank you for the compliment about the post.
Actually, I believe it is fraud to enter into a contract
with people below a certain IQ. Perhaps we are thinking of different levels of low intelligence.
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Lisa C.
“Elections are short term efforts; revolutions are long term projects.”
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perhaps
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let me give you an example, The following is a fictious article, but the substance, whose name I have blanked out, is real, and widely available.
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"For years, scientists have been aware of the effectiveness of _____ in treating a surprisingly wide range of conditions," said Dr. Jonathan Bergen of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. "It was time to provide doctors with this often highly effective option."
In its most common form, ______ is a white, crystalline substance of a sandy consistency, obtained from the evaporated juice of the Saccharum officinarum plant. The FDA has approved ______ in doses ranging from 1 to 40,000 milligrams.
The long-awaited approval will allow pharmaceutical companies to market ______ in pill and liquid form. Eleven major drug companies have developed _______ tablets, the first of which, AstraZeneca's Sucrosa, hits shelves Sept. 24.
"We couldn't be more thrilled to finally get this wonder drug out of the labs and into consumers' medicine cabinets," said Tami Erickson, a spokeswoman for AstraZeneca. "Studies show _____ to be effective in the treatment of many ailments and disorders, ranging from lower-back pain to erectile dysfunction to nausea."
Pain-sufferers like Margerite Kohler, who participated in a Sucrosa study in March, welcomed the FDA's approval.
"For years, I battled with strange headaches that surfaced during times of stress," Kohler said. "Doctors repeatedly turned me away empty-handed, or suggested that I try an over-the-counter pain reliever—as if that would be strong enough. Finally, I heard about Sucrosa. They said, 'This will work,' and it worked. The headaches are gone."
Researchers diagnosed Kohler with Random Occasional Nonspecific Pain and Discomfort Disorder (RONPDD), a minor but surprisingly pervasive medical condition that strikes otherwise healthy adults.
RONPDD is only one of many disorders for which ______ has proven effective, Bergen said.
"_______ has been successful in the treatment of everything from lower-back pain to erectile dysfunction to nausea," Bergen said. "That's the beauty, and the mystery, of ______. It's all-purpose. Think of it like aspirin, but without any of the analgesic properties."
The FDA is expected to approve the drug for a wide range of mood disorders later this year. According to Bergen, initial research has shown _______ to be effective in the treatment of bipolar disorder, depression, dysthymia, panic disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, seasonal affective disorder, and stress.
As industry analysts predict the drug's sales will top $25 billion in the first year, the approval of ______ is expected to unleash one of the pharmaceutical industry's biggest marketing battles to date.
Enlarge Image
An advertisement for AstraZeneca's placebo Sucrosa.
GlaxoSmithKline expects to have two versions of ______ on the shelves in late December. One, a 40-milligram pill called Appeasor, will be marketed to patients 55 and over, while the other, Inertra, designed for middle-aged women, is a liquid that comes in a 355-milliliter can, and is cola-flavored. Eli Lilly plans a $3 million marketing campaign for its 400-milligram tablet, Pacifex.
"The only side effect consistent in all test subjects was a negligible one—an almost imperceptible elevation in blood-glucose levels," Albert French, a drug researcher, said. "It's unfair to the American people to withhold a drug so many of them desperately think they need."
LOOTING OF PEOPLE BY MONEY TRICKS BEGETS BLOWBACK WITH
POLITICAL TRICKS, SOCIALISM, in my opinion.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Can someone re-write ATLAS SHRUGGED with JOHN GALT as
a day trader or a real estate flipper or even a landlord? LOL!
And of course, a loan officer or a banker or...
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Of course, I don't support socialism, but I think people are too
easy on the other type of looters, the money gamers, who do not produce, but take from others, in my opinion.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
Take what from others?
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Lisa C.
“Elections are short term efforts; revolutions are long term projects.”
--Ron Paul
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my point
Fortune Favors the Bold
is that the modern day money changers, indirectly, are subsidized by the govennment. If we returned to sound money, such abuses of financial infra-structure would be punished by the market much moreso then is the curretn status quo.
Agents for the FED.
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Lisa C.
“Elections are short term efforts; revolutions are long term projects.”
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As I wrote below, we need to pay much more attention to
the money gaming looters who are disguised as free market capitalists.
We need to study more. But, I need to go bed now.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin
you know
Fortune Favors the Bold
it's interesting you bring up those examples, because in the first too, one could make the case that creation of excess money and credit are what enables those abuses. Complex iterations of credit and law and ownership will invariably lead to abuse.
As far as the landlord, this gets back somewhat to a discussion we have had on this board before, which is the basis for the derivation of private property rights in regards to land ownership. In my mind, this is one of the most challenging aspects of a libertarian type philosophy, as title of property is generated through labor of effort, but once the title is created, especially with regard to finite resources, like land, no further contributive labor need necessarily be applied to retain property rights.
Maybe challenging, but I don't think people have paid enough
attention to the money gaming looters, yet. If we did, we might find that it's not so challenging. These looters have been hiding disguised as free market capitalists, but they are not, in my opinion.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin