Group: Campaign for Liberty created on my.barackobama.com

seems very nice :) of them...

I think we have to be careful not to attack Obama directly. Just pass on the education so they are more receptive to the facts.

"It is the responsibility of the patriot to protect his country from its government."

— Thomas Paine

I have not joined yet as I just saw this that they allowed it!! Great! Will one of you that is already in that group Please post this letter to the editor that was posted on another thread here? It appeared in the Richmond Times- dispatch on July 7 and I think is perfect to post over on that site!!!!

Here it is:

Dear Editor, Times-Dispatch:

Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice.
On June 30 I celebrate my independence day, and on
July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because
it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.

On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba, and a few
months later, I was in the United States to stay. That
I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is
just part of the story, but I digress.

I've thought a lot about the anniversary this
year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot
about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late
1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, so
when a young leader came along, every Cuban
was at least receptive.

When the young leader spoke eloquently and
passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell
in love with him. They never questioned who his friends
were or what he really believed in. When he said he would
help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care
and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he
would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said,
'Praise the Lord.' And when the young leader
said, 'I will be for change and I'll bring you
change,' everyone yelled, 'Viva Fidel!'

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the
executioner's guns went silent, the people's guns
had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal,
they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the
time everyone received their free education, it was worth
nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late,
because they were now working for him. By the time the
change was finally implemented, Cuba had been knocked
down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the
time the change was over, more than a million people had
taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call
those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the
most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the
beginning of my story.

Luckily, we in America would never fall for a young
leader who promised change without asking, what change?
How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?

Would we?

Manuel Alvarez, Jr.,Sandy Hook,VA

..glad you are still around, and not dead from holding your breath to get this approved. All they had to do was go to the CFL site and see it was for Ron. If you had called it Obama Liberty group, it may have faired better..LOL

Opposition and bickering among Reps and Dems is a good thing! Every time they agree we loose more freedom.

Please hear me out...

Harry Truman said, "Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship."

The Founders wisely set up a constitutional form specifically so that individuals, groups, and government branches would fight against each other, jockey for position, and ultimately check and balance each other.

The only time the branches and parties would come together, reasoned the Founders, was when a problem was so immediate and disastrous that cooperation and efficiency were needed to solve it quickly, such as national disasters and major wars.

In other words, the Founders wanted the government to be slow, contentious, and largely uncooperative.

This structure was set up at a time when the People understood that they individually bore the main responsibility for their own welfare.

Now, when the majority of our citizens look first and primarily to the government to solve problems "change", frustration with a sluggish, partisan, and uncooperative government is an ever-increasing sentiment.

The more the government fights internally, the more they leave citizens alone free.

In most cases, the more government cooperates, the more freedom we lose. Don't get me wrong--I want the government to be strong and capable in its prescribed duty to protect my unalienable rights.

The problem is that power centralizes and expands, and government--especially popular government--always tends toward exceeding its prescribed limitations.

Cooperative, efficient government has given us the following and more:
The 16th and 17th Amendments and the Federal Reserve Act, and, as a result, the Great Depression.

The New Deal, complete with the foundations of every entitlement program in existence today.

The Iraqi War, which is currently costing us $12 billion per month and is now the second longest war in our history, as well as the second most costly (surpassed only by World War II).

The $5.3 trillion bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

And in the process, what has been forcefully taken from us?

Tax dollars, incalculable amounts of spending power through inflation, a constitutional form that largely prevented the growth of the federal government and ensured that state governments could check and balance the federal government, domestic peace as class conflict and resentment are created because of forced wealth redistribution, and a naturally balanced and healthy society as the government favors certain institutions at the expense of others.

I don't know about you, but I wish the government would stop getting things done. The more it gets done, the less freedom you and I have, the less money we have, and the less power we have to influence and change things for the better.

...the video from yesterday, of Obama walking out of the Fed Res. building, waving to the crowd...after his secret meetings with Bernanke and Paulson!!! He is complicit in the traitorous conspiricy that has enslaved the American people. Bring back public hangings!!
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BC
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

Once they become aware of the facts, their eyes will be opened.

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HERE IS A GREAT IDEA FROM TJEFFERSON

Members: 18773 Access: Public Created: Jun 25th, 2008

Senator Obama - we are a proud group of your supporters who believe in your call for hope and a new kind of politics. Please reject the politics of fe...(more)

I agree, let's join this already large group so we can "troll" our ideas of Freedom to his supporters that may be open to more Ron Paul ideals.

http://my.barackobama.com...
Revolution by infiltration!

I SAY WE START TROLLING FOR LIBERTY AND RON PAUL ON BARAK'S MOST ACTIVE SITE! SEE YOU THERE HAHA!

He's not scary. He's snuggly and secure. And he's here to tell you all about how our nice friends in the telecom industry are helping to protect us!

Also check out what Snuggly has to say about Constitutional Compromise (see clip dated 7/2/08).

Perhaps we could each mail a stuffed "Snuggly" teddy bear to Obama...

to me is that if they do not allow the Campaign for Liberty group, then they are shutting the door on any Paul supporters coming to their camp. If they allow the group, they run the risk of having their supporters turned when Ron becomes the nominee.

I think it shows a great willingness and compassion on the part of the Paul supporters to actually enter opposition territory, and create a group that exists for the sole purpose of debate and to encourage critical thinking, comparing the two candidates, pointing out flaws and strengths, etc.

America needs more of this. Debate is so important, and it is so what the controlling elites do not want us to have. It feels as tho we're supposed to agree with whatever we hear on television, and that's manipulation, plain and simple.

Liberty, once it takes root, is a plant of rapid growth.
Ron Paul Rocketman
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Obama supporters set *UN-Money bomb* protest event for July 6!

Events
Upcoming Events

* "Undonate" to protest FISA vote
* Postcards from Europe to US voters for Obama
* E-Mail Obama to Stop FISA

Event: "Undonate" to protest FISA vote
When: Jul 06, 2008

Search Results for Group with most members:
Senator Obama - Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right

Members: 18773 Access: Public Created: Jun 25th, 2008

Senator Obama - we are a proud group of your supporters who believe in your call for hope and a new kind of politics. Please reject the politics of fe...(more)

I agree, let's join this already large group so we can "troll" our ideas of Freedom to his supporters that may be open to more Ron Paul ideals.

http://my.barackobama.com...
Revolution by infiltration!

and formulation. Wonder whether the moderator will accept it...we will see.
Yes, the campaign for liberty extends tot he supporters, but also intended to influence and persuade senators, governors and congress men.

Wninja, this is a very clever tactic!

I like it! Good work!

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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."

freedom. Peace

we're joining a pro-obama group, to join up with pro-obama's to fight to get obama to change on one small issue? Is that right?

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Is this site something that you have dreamed up primarily to pull from the other side? I can barely stand to hear that name, much less sign on to a group with it in there. Perhaps I am just tired and not reading properly. Please explain or clarify.

excellent idea and format. The creativity of fellow patriots never ceases to amaze me.

In the mean time you can join the Senator Obama - Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right group.

When you join you can option to receive no emails or the entire listserv of the anit-FISA group. My email blew up so i turned if off. But i'm going to create a new email and redirect to the new email. Inturn, if you create a message to be sent it goes out to every member of the group.

Technically the site is incredibly robust. If SGP wants to replace Meet-up he need look no further than my.barackobama.com. If you cloned that site and painted up with Ron Paul, CFL and R[EVOL]UTION it would be the best site on the web.

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Think of it.
Imagine key Obama folks coming over to us!
I mean his campaign staff...key folks...perhaps by God's miracle we could convert Obama himself?
Ron Paul/Barack Obama 2008 independent ticket?
eh?

greetings from Canada
Happy Birthday USA

Now that is a direct positive action for real change.

I hope they allow this post and don't consider it trolling, it could be very productive. (sound familiar?)