4th of July party confrontation
Was I out of line? I am so fed up with being taunted when things in this country are the way they are and it's not being taken seriously by the majority.
We had a party on the 4th a male guest who is vocal said loudly so everyone could hear, knowing full well the answer already, mockingly he said who's Ron Paul sign is that out in the front yard? I said, it's mine. He smirked and said he's not running anymore and if he was he wouldn't have a chance, the people have spoken. I held my tongue wasn't going to argue. My views are known amongst my crowd. He said, okay hey I thought Ron Paul had some good ideas and I probably would have voted for him if he'd been the one but he's not going to be so who are you voting for it's Obama or McCain. I said I'm writing in Ron Paul's name. He said, are you kidding, go ahead and waste your vote. I said, to me a vote for Obama or Mc Cain and you have the blood of our men and women serving on your hands. The whole place got quiet. It was a long silence then he said, you have a lot of nerve saying that to me and I don't appreciate it. He left a few minutes later not saying goodbye. And I retired to my bedroom glass of wine in hand.
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sounds like he was a loud
sounds like he was a loud mouth and shouldnt have talked if he couldnt handle your answers.
He's an idiot you did the
He's an idiot you did the right thing.
You really did do the right
You really did do the right thing. People are so emotionally disconnected from the truth and want to deny it so when you speak the truth it really hits em where it hurts.... because its impossible to deny the truth...good job man
You Did the Right Thing
Although, I would have thrown a few more things in the mix. Like, Yeah, you go ahead and vote for either one of those puppets, cause that's what they are PUPPETS. DO YOU REALLY THINK IN ALL OF AMERICA THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO? Dude, it's INTENTIONAL..ELITISTS ARE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE HIJACKED THE ELECTION PROCESS. YOU THINK YOU HAVE A CHOICE? YOU DONT. THESE CANDIDATES ARE PUPPETS. THEY ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, THEY HAVE THE SAME GLOBALIST AGENDAS. Dude, You saw with your own eyes how the mainstream marginalized RP. Our media is CONTROLLED, cant you see that? Why do you think they NEVER show any REAL WORLD EVENTS. YOU THINK YOU HAVE A CHOICE YOU DONT. THAT'S WHAT I AM FIGHTING AGAINST. FASCISM AND OPPRESSION. Now, go vote for who ever you deem fit dude. I am sticking with RP on the ticket or not. Someone crank up the music lets get this party going.....You did the right thing.
Lets fire them all
Lets fire them
http://www.fire-them-all....
These stupid people seem so
These stupid people seem so content to rub in the idea that Paul cannot win the election and say, "I told you so". What they fail to understand is that if Paul is not the next President, for the duration of the next administration, we will unfortunately be the ones to say, "See, i told you so." And believe me if Paul is not the next POTUS I fully intend to rub peoples noses in it every time their guy #&@%$ us over.
After this election we will have reached a singularity. The answer to any and all questions about what's wrong with this country if I hear it directed to me. Will simply be, "because you're a dumbass..." Every single person I know that refuses to wake up literally lives to complain about the same things year after year after year.
So while they get to tell you, "I told you so" one time. They will have to listen to, "I told you so" every day until we finally get our way and restore the constitution.
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That's why I don't throw parties...
Particularly in my own home.
"The people have spoken"??? I'd of said, "The people are morons and said you know what? Being surrounded by morons I can feel myself getting dumber and dumber by the minute, i think you should go cause you're dragging me down with you!" Then toss his dumb ass out and tell the crowd that, "if they insist on wallowing in moronic mediocrity then they could do me a service and leave as well." And if anybody gave me any shit, I'd asked, "exactly what kind of dumbass are you?" and when they blahblahbalah..., "i'd say that was a rhetorical question, I know exactly what kind of dumbass you are." And I'd of kick their ass out too. And when someone says something about me being pissed. I'd say, "it's because I'm paying attention, WTF R U DOING?!?!"
P.S. Yeah i know, that's why you can't take me anywhere. But seriously, sometimes people respond to shock and awe. Sometimes it's the only way to force anyone to ask why?
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"The people have spoken"???
"The people have spoken"??? I'd of said, "The people are morons..."
so true, and made me laugh.
Sounds like your guest needs
a lesson or two in common courtesy.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
The only one out of line was
The only one out of line was your guest.
I would have debated him all the way out to his car, and as he was pulling off.
Some people are still brainwashed by mainstream media.
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This situation is easy to win!
I have some pretty rote answers, that are questions. I ask, So you can't support Ron Paul? Is it because you love the income tax? You love allowing imports into our country that aren't taxed so that we continue to lose all our manufacturing jobs? You love giving free schooling, healthcare, housing, etc. to illegal immigrants? You love sending BILLIONS of dollars outside our country to fight unnecessary wars & fund unnecessary military bases, while we close the bases in our own country? You love having our OWN borders undefended? You love having the federal reserve dictate our economic climate while they continue to print worthless money? You have so much money socked away that the dollar you have today will be worth a dime ten years from now, but that won't matter to you? You love the fact that the main stream media control how much information we receive about each candidate & manipulate our minds?
The above is just the tip of the iceberg in what I tell people they're supporting if they're voting for Mcbama. I say it all very calmly, & then say, "When your house has depreciated by 50% & everyone around you, & perhaps even YOU have lost your jobs, & a trip to the grocery store is your luxury & entertainment for the week (along with gassing up the car), don't complain to me - I supported Ron Paul!
This shuts people up real fast.
Cynthia Kennedy
Quotes: "He smirked and said
Quotes:
"He smirked and said he's not running anymore and if he was he wouldn't have a chance, the people have spoken."
"He said, okay hey I thought Ron Paul had some good ideas and I probably would have voted for him if he'd been the one but he's not going to be so who are you voting for it's Obama or McCain."
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i've heard this before too - from more than a couple people!
Thanks for sharing.
I had it happen too
Several guests started talking about how Obama was a socialist and they were going to vote for McCain so I explained how McCain is similar to Obama and that I would put each of my fingers in a meat grinder before I let any of them push a button for either of them. Then they changed the subject. I will be voting third party. I support what you are saying but again your vote is going to be thrown out as if it never existed, Dr Paul has advised against a write in. I'm not sure why you would want to throw away the efforts of all of us by doing a write in, even going against the 2 choices Dr. Paul has suggested.
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."
Your guest obviously thought
Your guest obviously thought he could hold your beliefs up for ridicule and have the support of the other guests.
Your guest is no 'friend'. Bravo for your spirited rebuttal. We no longer have time for 'political correctness'...not to mention busybody-ism.
If I can't vote for RP...which has not truly been decided yet, then I will vote third party. Time to shake the two party system to the foundations.
He was out of line.
From your post I gather you were at your home since he left and you retired to your bedroom. The guest was out of line - period.
you
should have laid in to him even more. He is one of the sheep that needs to wake up
Very well put
Never back down from an intellectual battle. Remember, you represent good ideals, the battle is already won if you play your cards right.
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Well Said...
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He was pushing and
you pushed back. Awesome, I don't think I could have held my cool or I may have curled up and not said anything. You did a great job, plus you gave the rest of the people in the room something to chew on. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. Peace
You Did Well Patty
In God We Trust!
When the light is shone, the darkness always flees!
This is exactly what happened.
Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
We are going to win this with....... and only with, the help of Almighty God!
Nice job, I think you controlled your temper well. I envy that.
Had that disrespect been at my home while my mood was wrong, he may have left in an ambulance after the political refresher course.
I usually don't
But thank you I'm trying. I ususally end up using words like ignorant and uniformed and educate yourself. And it doesn't go over well.
PattyC, I think you did just fine.
He was ignorant and boorish, and you did a very good job of putting him right in his place.
He couldn't uphold his emotional Neocon argument, and so he just left.
Confront the cockroaches, and they scurry under the door.
Let them run rampant, and you'll lose your house to them.
The time for our silence is past.
Speak out like you did, and they can't stand up to the light being shined on them.
I think you did great, and you showed what "Independence " really means on "Independence Day".
Hoist the damn Neocons on their own pitard.
They are NEVER going to be our friends, and to think otherwise is plain ignorance. Let them have it with both barrels.
You were out of line
But he was before you were. You were right in your arguments and he was wrong. You could learn from Ron Paul. Look at how he NEVER sounds angry or short tempered with idiots that confront him. He treats them as if they are simply out of the know, no matter how rude they are to him. That is where you need to go with your emotions.
Politics should not be allowed to ruin friendships. Friends are more important. But your friend was being aggressive. Drinking almost always plays a part also.
Politics should not be allowed to ruin friendships
If my opinion and standing up for what I believe is right with an individual who has not taken the time to do any research about what he's spouting off about and it ruins our friendship that is not a friendship I need. I am not going to kiss behind to be "nice" when this country is going down the tube because of silence and complacency. Sometimes it takes "bad manners" to get someone's attention.
Half way agree.
I agree 100% about how Ron Paul never loses his temper and that we should all try to emulate him when it comes to debate and other issues. But Patty did not lose her temper. Actually she spoke the truth. It doesn't even sound like she raised her voice. The reason it got quiet is because of the truth in her reply. She could have even whispered it. The truth in what she said was that powerful.
I'm curious to hear how you would have addressed this bully. He sounds like the typical neocon to me.
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." Ron Paul
The fact that
she went to her room tells me that she felt guilty about her behavior and probably it was obvious to everyone that the conversation from her point had turned angry. Until that moment when she spoke, he was obnoxious, but apparently not angry. It is the anger and ill will that becomes the problem, not the actual debate no matter how intense it gets. Anger is the problem. There was anger from that particular point when she responded and she was embarrassed enough to go to her room. Now she is very defensive which tells me she is still angry. She is looking for approval now rather than logic. I am trying to help her grow for next time. Anger is the cut off point. By patronizing her, we do her no good. If she cannot get the truth here, where can she get it?
your analysis is deeply
your analysis is deeply flawed.
try again.
That troll could not
analyze his way out of the wiretapping department.
Patronizing? I don't think
Patronizing? I don't think so.
Wishy-washy answers and watered down retorts do not work with the sheeple. I know, I was one a year ago. It took "Blowback" to reach me..... Not exactly wishy-washy.
How would you have addressed this bully?
Exactly the same way she did
Except she obviously got angry. Therefore he was offended, left the party, she went to her room, further ruining her party. It was the anger that was the culprit. Then she felt guilty and comes here to find out what she did wrong. She did nothing wrong except get angry along with her retort. Otherwise, she was perfectly fine.
Is this guy 42 or...
younger? If so he needs to get his chickenhawk cowardly ass to the recruiters station and start fighting.
No one gets a free ride.
You're both right
It is a wasted vote, because it won't be counted. You can vote for someone in a 3rd party.
Cmon
Do you really think a third party has a chance? People have always said voting for a third party is a wasted vote. More people would probably write in Ron Paul if they knew it would be counted. It should be counted. Everyone should make sure write ins are counted. That way I bet a statement would be made that the majority does'nt want Obama or Mccain.
I guess voting for a NWO scum elitist
who is corrupt as the day is long, is not wasting your vote? Please.
It may not be wasted
Because Ron Paul just may be the nominee. Even if he isn't it's not wasted to take a stand and make a statement even if it never gets acknowledged.
Absolutely
right.
Ignorance needs to be
Ignorance needs to be confronted. He is a guest and showing poor taste in slamming something the guest has as part of his home.
Our sons and daughters are dying
Our sons and daughters are dying and it's just accepted as our duty. If these wars were so justified why did they have to lie to us to get us to go along with it? Where is the media coverage you hardly hear a word about what's going on, how many are dying, are our service men and women just a throwaway disposable product. To be patriotic we are expected to go along with sacrificing our loved ones and just accept what this vile corrupt administration decides for us. It makes me ill.