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Ron Paul-Endorsed Money Bomb a Dud?

Yesterday I had a wake-up call. I think I was under the delusion that the Freedom Movement was still alive and well, but I'm starting to wonder: Now that Ron Paul is no longer actively campaigning for president, have we all just gone back to sleep in our cups? Have we "taken the fifth" -- of Scotch -- and tried to drown our sorrows?

The Fourth of July Freedom Slate '08 Money Bomb was supposed to raise millions for liberty-minded candidates across the country, but less than $20 thousand was raised yesterday. What happened?

The amazing thing is that this money bomb was organized by the same people that brought you the November 5th and December 16th money bombs, which garnered more than four and six million dollars respectively in those single-day events.

Furthermore, Ron Paul himself has endorsed Break The Matrix, Trevor Lyman's New Media organization that is behind the money bomb. Of their efforts, Paul had this to say in a recent email:Ron Paul

"I look forward to their success. Our message is too important not to spread." - Ron Paul

This message went out to some 100,000 people on the Campaign for Liberty mailing list - yet the results of this money bomb were less than 1/3rd of one percent of the "big bomb" on December 16th, a mere half a year ago. Have we just given up, gone back to "business as usual?"
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I think past money bomb success

was about the man, not the message, unfortunately.

Most of these people won't throw their resources behind anyone that is not an exact duplicate of Dr. Paul.

Folks are tapped out and

Folks are tapped out and everyone is asking you for more money. The Congressional candidates, the money bomb for Kent Snyder, etc. And the CFL site does not present good information about these Congressional races. I've been disappointed so far with the site, quite frankly. I know it's just getting started but we need more information on all liberty candidates, a place to converse like these boards and news from around the country.

An average Congressional race costs over a million dollars these days. We're simply going to have to expand our base and get more LOCAL support to win.

We need an independent media, a national newspaper, to spread this message and make it available to the folks. This is where our attention needs to be, also. Not everyone is internet savy.

I totally agree.

We're all broke. There's a freakin' recession [or worse] going on and we lose 1/3rd of our paycheck every week to keep fueling the evil machine we're fighting against.

We must pick our battles, and I almost always choose local over national, with the exception of RP. Here in Ohio we're working on getting Robert Owens, an independent candidate for Attorney General, elected. Most of my fellow RP-supporters, now actively working in the Ohio Freedom Alliance, are putting their funds toward him, as well as other money-hungry OFA projects.

There's also a big road trip to DC coming up this weekend that's gonna require multiple fuel-stops. Not to mention the $800 spent each month by the Liberty Voice (a three person team) printing thousands of copies of our independent newspaper.

The math is obvious. Just too much going on, too much competition for money, and with a new moneybomb every other day, I'm not at all surprised the charm has worn off.

Until we abolish the Fed, unfortunately the frugality must be understood and/or we must find other ways to support eachother's efforts.

- laura robeson

Managing Editor of the Liberty Voice, Columbus Ohio
www.TheLibertyVoice.com

Quit bitching

Quit bitching about us not raising money. Pauls not even running anymore. And its not that but are you living in the same country as we are. The economy has gotten worse since march nobody has any money to give away everybody is strapped. Of course the money bomb isnt going to get anymoney, nobody promotes it. The dr. left the raise we dont get any tv time there arent any significant size website promoting it. There should be one money bomb thats it. On nevember 5th for the CFL. Quit asking for money I bet there'll be like 5 more attempted "money bombs" before them. You ask for too much when you know the economy is horrible and we have no money.

Freeople Is Live!!

I'd recommend for everyone to check out Freeople (www.freeople.com). The site is dedicated to providing freedom-minded candidates and their supporters with a toolset for success.

The initial release has a ton of functionality including the lowest transaction fee of any online political community for fund raising and the ability to bundle funds ... which means less money goes to the credit card company and more goes to its intended destination.

Also has free 'meetup-like' groups, free Google Maps integration, group fund raising and much more.

"...supposed to raise millions..."

I have followed the Doc's lead on his campaign. When he called the campaign off, he had chosen to not spend millions that we had given him. He's not spending money with the goal of electing himself. Things have changed. I have given to the new CFL and a couple of other related causes. His supporters are not tuned in as they once were. Only a small fraction are here at DP with any regularity. Things have changed, but the sun will shine once again.

I think both are factors

Many people, including myself, are struggling financially trying to survive now, and save for possibly worse times ahead. That combined with so many different "chip ins" going on simultaneously, leaves little left over. But at least, we are responsible and we don't just print more money like our government does, and we haven't borrowed from China to donate to our causes.

no, I just can't afford to

no, I just can't afford to give any more money right now. I need to save it for school, seeing as things are getting more and more expensive, this next semester is going to be hell.

affirmation: President Paul

affirmation: President Paul 2008
With all due respect, perhaps it is not the moneybomb that was unsuccessful as much as the fact that the "pie" can only be cut so many ways: Granny Warrior, Kent Snyder, Daily Paul, Davenport, assorted moneybombs, etc. These are all excellant and worthy donations but factor that in with personal expenses and a shakey economy and you've got a difficult situation, to say the least..peace:)

couldnt have said it better

couldnt have said it better myself.

Really?

I dont even recall getting an email for this and Im a member of the CFL

I stopped participating in

I stopped participating in RP money bombs when RP stopped spending the money. Frankly I feel betrayed that he did not run a more active campaign, that he did not use the money we gave him for the campaign.

We gave him cash in order to run a kick-ass presidential campaign, but instead he coasted by and saved the money for some foundation. I am not happy about that.

Yeah, yeah, great foundation, but that's not WHY I gave him my money.

Also, people easily get excited about president. It's harder to get excited about dozens of candidates for lower offices.

Also, there is no clear rallying point, no contract with america so to speak, that unites these candidates as an easily-recognizable force for liberty.

And no, making a list with a catchy name does not meet the requirement I stated in the immediately preceding paragraph.

We need to get a lot more organized for 2010.

Whaaaa

Whaaaaa!!!! Call the whambulance!

An old man who has been working tirelessly for 30 years to protectYOUR freedom, weathering every kind of abuse, and NEVER backing down, while YOU did what exactly? And you feel betrayed because he didn't carry you all the way to the White House on his back in exchange for the few dollars you threw at him? Instead he decided to use the extra money for yet ANOTHER battle for freedom, trying to set up an organization that will live on and keep up the fight after he dies? Outrageous! That selfish, lying bastard! You HAVE been ripped off, haven't you?

Grow the hell up.

Definition of insanity

Einstein said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing and expecting different results. For $25 million we couldn't even get Ron Paul a speaking slot at the RNC -- and more than likely not even a single state victory there. We've learned that money won't beat the Republican establishment -- that they'll resort to dirty tricks if they have to in order to ensure that Republicans represent Big Business rather than the people.

Why would we expect different results this time around? Wouldn't that make us insane?

Forget local candidates (sorry, George Lilly, my local Ron Paul Republican running for U.S. Congress). What we need are local candidates enthusiastically (i.e. with money, and with the idea of winning, not just showing) endorsed by local Republican leadership. I.e., we need local Republican leadership first. And that doesn't cost money -- it costs time. We need a "local leadership" scoreboard, not a "money bomb". A scoreboard could be similar in goal (but perhaps better designed and executed) than the old ronpaul2008.com precinct chairperson list.

The Republican party asked

one of my family members to run
for an office even though he is for Ron Paul.And he is doing it!This is what we need more of,Republican endorsed Ron Paul candidates.

The moneybombs need to get local and competitive

If Ron Paul's campaign is done then we don't need to spend our money wildly anymore.
We need to get focused on increasing our numbers of like minded patriots and supporting local candidates to make reform and stand up to Federal Government.
We also need a track record for each region as far as how they're doing with fundraising and getting in good leaders. Whenever you have some goal, like running a race, you need competition to push yourself harder and make it.

So, we need a nationwide map of how much each region donates to their region and which leaders they have gotten elected.

Swinging for the fences, like Ron Paul as Prez, or Murray Sabrin, or Amit Singh haven't worked and I don't think putting a candidate like that in a position will work until we take control of each of our local candidates.

I did not know there was a money bomb

www.dvds4delegates.com the newest and possibly the greatest weapon the Revolution now possesses.

yesterday? I just sent out $500.00 to www.dvds4delegates.com though. Count me in on the next one.

I think the upcoming

I think the upcoming November 5th money bomb will do well, since it's the anniversary of last Nov. 5th's historic day.
http://www.ronpaulforums....
http://thisnovember5th.co...

What money bomb?

Maybe this has something to do with it. I didn't even know there was a money bomb going on. They just don't get the same publicity as they used to. Money bombs have to be accompanied by publicity bombs. Plus I also agree that people like to know exactly who their money is going to.

I SO agree with most of the

posters below.

We are all getting spread quite thin in keeping up with all the requests.

All of us who donated previously, also endured many expenses in supporting Ron Paul in other ways - flyers - canvassing - attending meetings, etc. etc. etc.

My largest donation has been my TIME! It's practically a full time job keeping up with, and opposing, all the tyrannical bills put forward by our legislators - both federal and state.

Even my own family thinks I've "lost it". I know way to much to turn back, and will keep on educating those who "don't want" to believe their way of life and very being is undermined at every level.

It is still very much alive.....

For what ever reason, the money bomb didn't stand out. Lots of time and money spent during the primaries. Now I'm spending money to go to D.C and then to St. Paul in Sept. I don't live off credit cards so it's all Cash n Carry. And yes everyone is asking for money. One can't give to everyone. Must plan well and spend wisely. But believe me, just because someone doesn't donate money doesn't mean that one is sitting around doing nothing waiting for the big event to happen. I'm spreading the message about the Campaign For Liberty everyday and the convention in St.Paul.

As quite a few have stated,

As quite a few have stated, the Revolution is moving to a different phase of engagement. Giving money to get one man exposure is great, but giving money for intangibles is a hard pill to swallow.

What could be better than a money-bomb? Just watch the video of people trying to serve their reps with grievances and redress. They are dedicated and often are swimming up-stream. Or participating in the marches and rallies around the state. Or the myriad of other tactics to sway the general masses and our representatives.

If we start throwing money at a problem as the solution, how far off are we from the establisment that we are fighting against? Money doesn't fix problems, envolvement does. Perhaps instead of a money-bomb, we should have an envolvement-bomb?

Different

The money bomb was perfect for its time but things have changed. The Ron Paul campaign was a short-term event. The time frame was clear, defined and short. Every day counted. Everyone was willing to feel some pain and go out on a financial limb to make those early donations. The rate of donations didn't need to be at a sustainable level. And we were looking to break records to try and leverage some media coverage. It worked too!

The CFL is not a short-term event. It is a long haul event. The rate of donations needs to be at a sustainable level. We aren't up against a deadline and we aren't trying to break records for donations. Slow and steady wins THIS race.

Sure, some folks burned out after Super Tuesday. But most of them are just regrouping. Personally, with the expenditures on the campaign, the trip to DC, and the efforts to prepare for economic collapse, I just don't have the money for big donations right now.

But to pronounce the Revolution dead at this point just because fund raining patterns have changed is not justified.

Vague

Perhaps it doesn't seem vague to you, but to less tuned in people, not sure what the money is going for, so many people are now asking for money. I maxed for Ron Paul to become president and became everyone's best friend, became the "go to" billfold of 2008. There are so many different projects to donate to. DVDs, people in jail, people in debt, people running all over the country and losing, broadcasting, websites. It is such a big need. There is no clear leader. I am still waiting to see what Dr. Paul will do after September. I want him to be running. If he is, I will max again.

The movement is alive and well on an individual basis. But I find the money bombs to 'all too often' build up expectations way beyond reality and then whatever is raised is a downer. That is really dumb. At the moment, the movement is just not cohesive. It has become a gangly octopus.

I agree...too many candidates and not enough specific knowledge

on how well they will spend it ,etc....(keep in mind , even though they espouse his ideals, does not necessarily mean they are able to walk the walk--financially speaking. Many do not have a proven track record that we can look at and have absolute confidence that this person or that will do what they say....

IT IS OUR CONFIDENCE IN A PERSON OR A PROJECT THAT COMPELS PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR WALLETS.......so don't think people are falling asleep, I think that there is not enough --or not a strong enough communication to us on each of these candidates abilities...etc..

Yes and No

The problem is a grassroots revolution campaign must support itself, while the major parties are living off of bribes, favors and government Largess.

In a nutshell, we all work and have to support ourselves. I put a great deal of time money and energy into the campaign this spring, I now have to re-energize, earn some money, take care of things at home that I had put off, etc. - I will be ready for more activity this Fall. Hopefully there will be some plans laid, and a little more direction than we currently have.

Yes and No

The problem is a grassroots revolution campaign must support itself, while the major parties are living off of bribes, favors and government Largess.

In a nutshell, we all work and have to support ourselves. I put a great deal of time money and energy into the campaign this spring, I now have to re-energize, earn some money, take care of things at home that I had put off, etc. - I will be ready for more activity this Fall. Hopefully there will be some plans laid, and a little more direction than we currently have.

Thats the same boat im in.

Thats the same boat im in. Spent what I had and now im trying to use my time instead. I did donate to Kent. But i missed this money bomb myself. on top of that this was barely promoted. I send out money bomb emails and always update my blog and I found out yesterday. I know Im not the only one. Why didnt the CFL mention this?