I put HHO in my car and now the 'check engine' light is on
Posted July 8th, 2008 by WinstonSmith
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You put a HOHO in your car? What????
Next thing you know you'll be taking Little Debbie to the prom.
I picked up a male Ho
I picked up a male Ho one time, and look what it got me! Public humiliation, and banished from my church!
Damn those Ho's!
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Pound it! Pound it! Oh yeah, baby!
Winston Smith is a
strange thing, in this thread he said he uses Hydo tech and makes claimers that his check engine light comes on...
then in what I call his WWF thread, he tries to start trouble promoting a bet, he post his feelings of this tech. as a scam and the way I saw it it was like from outer space...
Be smarter than a rock
On July 8th, 2008 Gary Nelson says:
don't waste your time being a WWF promoter, get the real story!
http://www.opposingdigits...
read it then try it,
use it and drive to St. Paul, promote there!
Drive free or die!
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I'd rather fly in a craft reverse engineered from UFO technology
On July 8th, 2008 WinstonSmith says:
.....probably runs on water, too.
So what is it? Does he use it and his light came on or is he a trouble maker?
Maybe a oil man, working at Mobil?
You know he is bored and likes to confuse people, I do
"Talk about Flip Flopers, I just call them Liars! "
Winston, if the shoe fits wear it!
link corection
for some reason the link above is not right.
try this one
http://www.opposingdigits...
see the last 15 pages, but read the first 15 to,,,the rest may be over your head
I thought my sarcasm was quite transparent but
Yes. I used to work for Chevron in the 80s. They hire people with science degrees.
2 questions.
1) is the gas/oil compay Chevron still paying you?
2) Do you believe in peak oil?
Answers
1) I wish.
2) yes. I ran the Chevron computer simulator for several Saudi Oilfileds. The computer models used historical and geological data (and ughh mathematics and physics) to project production and depletion out for decades. I wish I could tell you the results, but I don't remember. What I do remember is that the Oil Ministry was very concerned with this present period in time.
Winston are you a fip flpoper or what?
Help me out here, I'm a dummy and still don't understand.
Are you or are you NOT using Hydo tech in your car?
I understood you have oil ties, as you stared.
"They hire people with..." do you mean "Sheeple"? You did give the impression to me, that this hydo tech is a scam, and talk about physics and all the big words. But what confuses me is how can the scam be pattened by the Government? Do they issue it to "Scammers"?
Help me out here,
With all the criticism I have heaped on your delusion
I really didn't expect anyone to believe I actually hooked up my car to HHO. BTW - I figured Randy's challenge would have ended all this crap.
Winston you are a Lair your saying?
Let me get this straight,
You started a thread, as a joke, to down play the benefits of using Hydro tec. a patented device that in no way breaks the laws of physics, and attack people who are currently using it with success and most likely hindering the uneducated people of the United States of America from trying to build their own units to break away from the grasp of the people you worked for?
is this right? This is Great! your the man!
I wish I had an eucation like you. I bet your mom and dad are proud of you! I am and glad to see people like you supporting Ron Paul!
Let's get something straight
The people I worked for made life what it has been (the party is ending) for you. Fresh produce year around from around the world. Coast to coast travel for a couple hundred dollars. A cornucopia of goods and services unequaled in recorded history. All this has been founded on CHEAP energy - yes cheap! What can you buy for $4 a gallon? The oil has been discovered, drilled for, transported, refined and delivered to the gas station down the street. You think that's easy? - of course you wouldn't know, would you? Actually it is quite obvious you don't know much of anything. If I have to fault the oil companies on anything, it would be the waste of this precious resource, but instead, they catered to the desires of Boobus AmericANUS to drive around in his Hummer. Jimmy Carter knew what was at stake, but Boobus wanted Reagan. So now, instead of taking the steps we needed 30 years ago, we are reduced to stealing oil. This will not end well.
Oil companies are worth
tell lies for?
http://www.opposingdigits...
My buddy was working for them and when I sent him this file he asked the big boy in the lab about it, they told him it was wise not to talk about it if he wanted to work there...
so he did not....the pay was Great!
wise not to talk - Right: better to be thought an idiot
than open your mouth and remove all doubt. Wouldn't have reflected well on the guy who hired him, either.
Back to the Question, Did you lie?
Yes or no.....
you have not admitted it yet?
Just be a man and say, Yes I lied I never put it on my car...
I C... it was just a "White Lie"
Your forgiven...
"Tell the truth and help people don't spread the oil companies LIES and enslave them!"
It was a joke
I have been honest with you about working for an oil company. That was 20 years ago. I have solar panels on my roof (BP160Bs manufactured by British Petroleum). I want a plug in hybrid that I can charge with them. I have no interest in oil. If you want to believe otherwise, go right ahead. I would love for this stuff to work, but everything I have ever read, studied or observed says this is bullshit. Have Oruval accept Randy's challenge. If he can get even 10% better milage, I'll eat my keyboard.
Free
http://www.opposingdigits...
last 15 pages...
I'm glad idiots are supporting Ron Paul, too
We on the right side of the Bell Curve can't do all the work.
John MacCain/winstonsmith for prez?
The kings of "Flip Flops"
You need to go into politics winston, you get caught in a lie and change the subject. This type of deception is common and I must say you got the big words to back it up. Keep the sheeple buying gas and you may get your job back!
Her is my Statement..YOU LIED! YOU NEVER PUT IT ON YOUR CAR but claim to have your light on because of it. This is detrimental to the Fuel Revolution! Drive free or Die!
I got 25% better mileage
I got 25% better mileage after putting Acetone in my gas tank. Runs better too.
Anyone know if it is ok if I then add the HHO system as well?
Liberty Girl
uhg...I know about cars and
uhg...I know about cars and I have seen the acetone thing before.
Do the math yourself.....your LOSING money!
You spend more on the acetone than you will gain in fuel economy.
AND GUESS WHAT?? There are only a few types of cars that are going to benefit. Adding acetone is equivalent to using higher octane fuel, which for the average engine does nothing! Hell, it can possible even lower fuel economy.
Engines are designed for certain octane's. The big exception is forced induction, but its cheaper to just buy premium...
um..acetone costs 5x as much
um..acetone costs 5x as much as gas...wow you waisted money.
You don't use it as gasoline.
You put a few caps into a tank of gas to get the mileage improvements. It goes a long way (at least that's the idea). I tried it a few times, never bothered to properly measure the results though, so I can't say if it really works or not.
Not really
Since you only use about an ounce per full tank. It's called mixing a small amout with your enitre tank.
Yes it is worth the time.
Read, learn watch implement and save yourself some gas.
http://www.youtube.com/us...
Your lucky it didn't blow up.
Count your blessings.
Do you remember what Norm used to say on the New Yankee Workshop.
"If you got problems, it is probably water related."
HHO (Water) is a bad thing to put in your engine.
Make sure you add anti freeze before winter.
How many Paultards does it take to mess up your car?
One, if you listen to Oruval.
I got a million of them.
For the record, I do not believe you.
WAHOR!!!
As Kurt said, "Rate Me!!!", or was it "Rape Me!!!"
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Paultard?
You actually used paultard. What an asshole. HHO cleans your engine deposits and helps your engine run cleaner.
I hope you have an aluminum block.
Because I think water causes rust in carbon steel.
WAHOR!!
Yo Rhino
You don't have a clue. I believe you are nothing more than a Provocateur
Check this out: http://www.grc.nasa.gov/W...
Water Injection in Commercial Aircraft Investigated for Increasing Engine Life and Reducing Costs and Emissions
Water-injection technology has historically been used in aviation to increase jet engine thrust and is presently used for ground power applications to increase gas turbine power and life, and to reduce the emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx). Analytical systems studies were performed at theNASA Glenn Research Center to estimate the effects of water injection on a commercial turbofan engine to reduce specific fuel consumption (SFC), NOx emissions, and engine hot-section temperatures while maintaining constant thrust. The subsequent reduction in hot-section temperatures could increase engine life and reduce maintenance costs. In-house efforts included engine cycle modeling and mission analysis. Contracted efforts repeated and verified the in-house results. The researchers also developed preliminary schematics with the hardware required to implement this technology and estimated the changes to engine life and maintenance cost.
Wait a minute!
What do you think the main byproduct of gasoline combustion is? You guessed it. Our little friend H20 (along with some CO2, C0, Sulfur oxides, nitrogen oxides etc). Thats why with a well running engine, you will see water dripping out of the tailpipe. Plus it's hard for steel to rust if it's constantly getting saturated with gasoline and engine oil. A little water isn't as detrimental to an engine as you may initially think.
He dosen't listen to truth.
Don't waste your time on Rhino.
When you write some ...
I will listen.
WAHOR!!
Rhino
first
you need to listen and think
second
Where is the "I love Rhino" thread?
Third
The "A" comes before the "W" in your famous closing signature.
Hope this helps...
Oooo..
that was funny. I looked at the HHO yahoo group and am a member. I am still reading but thanks for the heads up. More time and I'll be able to implement that O2 sensor.. =]
Drive fee or Die!
Great job, now remember the last 4 letters in AmerICAN!
Welcome to the Group!
IT IS A SCAM. It goes
IT IS A SCAM.
It goes against the laws of thermal dynamics and energy transfer. You can't argue with the math.
Have you noticed there is no one that understands the actual science behind it that believes it works?
Also, if it did work, don't you think every automaker would have the $20 part in their automobile?
excuse me
First of water is not being used as a fuel, and you are creating enegry through the water and eletricty being broken down into hydrogen. This much i think everyone knows but you. It is my belife you are an instigator that dosent have anything better to do with his time but argue!
BZZZZZT! I'm sorry, that is incorrect....
You are EXPENDING energy in breaking down the water. Ignorance of physics may have been OK in the Dark Ages, but it doesn't cut it in the 21st Century.
For crying out loud...
The Water4Gas aren't exactly charging a fortune for their information package.
If it is a scam, then it's one of the dumbest scams I've ever seen. If it doesn't work, you report them to the FTC and shut their websites down. I'm far more suspicious of you naysayers. Just which oil company is paying you?
they charge for free info!
here is a warning we got in our group from another bob, Bob Boyce, he made it to google! sorry for the copy and paste.
--- In Hydroxy@yahoogroups.com, bobboyceh2o wrote:
> As far as those spammy ads you see absolutely everywhere! They are
> all marketeering CRAP that should be avoided like the plaque! To top
> it off, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of "affiliates" that
> have "bought the right" from Ozzie to spam you with ads for duplicate
> information from the same master source. All you will get for your
> money is the same information that is available for FREE on this and
> many other sites on the internet. These spamming marketeers are
> selling mostly what they do not even really own marketing rights to,
> as the information they sell was downloaded from sites such as this.
>
> Bob Boyce
Don't Buy, get free!
Well first off
You can stop joking around. My engine light went off after installing HHO on my eclipse because my engine is running cleaner and more efficient.. Secondly you can actually do it instead of claiming that you did it and maybe I can take you seriously and actually address your problem.
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you should take a video tour of your car on HHO and upload it.
"There is but one special interest that we should be working for, and that would solve just about all of our problems, and that is our liberty."Ron Paul
Did
Did you install an O2 sensor spacer? If you didnt youre car thinks that its running lean and that alone will trigger the light.
'96 And Newer Cars
Have this problems more than the '95 and older cars.
The objective is to the trick the car's computer. A EFIE, is installed to over ride your "Check Engine Light. I'm assuming your car is the new model.
My car is a '94 and I don't need the EFIE. I needed the Map Sensor
Enhancer.
I paid the $97 at water4gas.com because they have tech support
and the large forum to assist me. It was well worth the money.
They also have a free market where folks can go buy what they need
instead of building they systems themselves.
this topic is a joke .... it's not real...
I dont recommend giving car advice without a thorough understanding of how modern vehicles operate. I'm sure the sites sell map sensors... and EFIE... but you have no idea what kind of vehicle this joke topic is about. All cars are not the same . You go ahead and hook up a map sensor to a vehicle running a Mass air sensor and see what happens. Or an "EFIE" box to the dual wire can bus of a network interfaced vehicle with 15 modules. That would be fun to watch. Know the patient before diagnosing what ails him.
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Just keep driving ----
Just keep driving ---- nothing matters once you have your Magic Ho under the hood!
Akak
Your ignorance is quite alarming on this subject. Didnt we already establish that this system can work? And I believe you agreed. "just ignore it-------like the laws of physics"?. Havnt we established that this doesnt violate the laws of physics? As well as the researchers at MIT. You seem pretty bright on other subjects, though you really have become a detriment to the people here just trying to save a buck by bashing this system that really does work. What's your hangup??
My "hangup" is people who
My "hangup" is people who are blatantly trying to convince others that water can be a fuel and the laws of physics CAN be violated. I have said repeatedly that these gizmos may enhance mileage, but they can NOT be creating energy from nothing, as so many seem to believe.
Though
Though I do believe water could be used as a fuel in the form of a fuel cell. It would need to be pretty large, though I believe it to be feasible.
Well
Well, I believe most people on here are just using the HHO system to increase gas mileage. The HHO system isnt intended to completely power your vehicle. I dont see too many people on this board advocating that.
Technically ....
the MIL/SES light is bullshit to begin with. If you are experiencing a drivability issue it should be corrected. If you dont notice a damn thing, it can be ignored. Unless you think global warming is real and have an obsession with emissions. However .... if it is flashing at you .....you HAVE a PROBLEM.
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“Revolutions never go backward.”
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