Senate just passed FISA

except for the handful of those who still have a brain left and understand what the r3VOLution is all about,

Lest we forget.

Did anyone else get briefly disconnected from here or was it the FISA nazis separating a cable and splicing me into their line so they could enjoy my commenting too now that they have their green light? Ooohh! Rot in hell you communist KGB bastards.

The ACLU is suing that FISA is unconstitutional: http://blog.wired.com/27b...

i agree we need to start to impeach our representitives- we need our grand jury's to iinvestigate and indight our public officials who choose to be corrupt.

This weekend at the Iowa State republican convention, there was much talk about the Second Amendment. We got a plank into the platform that supported repealing all gun control laws. As you would expect, we raised the roof with all the applause.

Politicians were there, and Congressman King made much ado about following the Constitution. He even held up his copy of the Constitution to show us all. But for all the Constitutional show, there was no mention of the Fisa vote just 3 days earlier. Nor did he mention that he, Congressman Latham, and Senator Grassley had voted to gut the Fourth Amendment. http://www.govtrack.us/co...
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Other than their support for the Second Amendment the republicans had little to say about their dismal record of violating our Constitutional rights these past seven years.

And the really sad thing is, not one republican delegate I talked with knew one thing about this Fisa bill.... Not One thing.

hawhiye,

Called Senator Crapo's office and informed the young man that answered the phone to please inform the Senator that I was withdrawing all my support for the Senator now and in the future. The guy was shocked. I informed him that this was the straw that broke the camels back by Senator Crapo's failure to uphold his Oath of Office to Protect and Defend the Constitution and had to take full responsibility for ushering in another page in the Police State. I also stated that I would inform all family members and friends to do the same and to inform their family and friends to do the same.

I fully expect a call from Mike as he knows me and my past 20+ years of political activity in Idaho.

I would suggest that all members here do the same and call the office of their Senator if they voted for this bill stating that they will do the same.

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Did you expect anything less? Are you tired of this yet? Are you truly tired of this? If so are you ready to do something that will and is making a difference right now?

I have been seeing this for 30 years and complained about it just the same to no avail. The solution is as G. Edward Griffin puts it; “to come to power” begging other people to do the right thing has not and will never work.

Dr Paul has given us the solution, and many of us have tested it and found that it works and it works very well. “Take Back the Republican Party”! We here in Idaho and many other states have proven it works!

Our only problem is not enough patriots having stepped up to do it. This is why we must quit scattering our energies to the fours winds and come to a single minded focus, resolve and effort with everyone on the same page. We must stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

All the 3rd party recruiting, prideful refusal to get involved with the Republican Party, because we don’t like what they are doing now, and independent directions have done absolutely nothing to stem the tied of this sort of thing. It in fact has allowed it to perpetuate with no end in site.

We can no longer sit back and scatter our focus in a million directions and expect change. This is what patriots have been doing for 30 years and it hasn’t made damn bit of difference. We must take the straight albeit sometimes unpleasant course of joining the Republican Party and taking the reins instead of begging them and the Democrats to do the right things. Those that hope for Bob Bar or Chuck Baldwin to suddenly take the country by storm are not facing the reality of the controlled media. Which is ironic after we have seen what they did to Dr. Paul? Bar and Baldwin are a waste of time and energy and weaken our efforts by dividing us that is the reality.

So if you're really serious about changing this country and securing the blessings of freedom to ourselves and our posterity then swallow your pride and come to where the battle is raging and which right now it is the Republican Party and get in the fight. And be thankful we don’t have a hot revolution like our founders did and we don’t have to make the same level of sacrifices they did to return to and secure those blessings they fought so hard for!

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Floods of letters, via Congress.org, demanding that they vote against it. Tells me who they "don't" represent. It makes me consider that H.L Mencken was too much of an optimist regarding the nature of politicians.

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"You blame this on Bush but please add the DEM congress for voting on this and helping it pass. I am not paranoid I am safer. No doubt about it. If they want to listen in on my calls that will be fine. I dont care. Why is this such a big deal. I dont mind at all giving up some liberties to be safer. Its working by the way."

F*CK!!

I don't know who wrote this, but when I find them, I will kill them.

You know that guy who made a video of himself doing a silly dance around the world? He had something interesting to say about the current state of free speech in the US.

http://www.npr.org/templa...

What did you encounter on your travels for this latest video that surprised you?

The degree to which our right to free and peaceable assembly has eroded in the U.S. You need to get permission to gather large numbers of people in any public place, and the tendency is not to give it — for a variety of reasons, and to be fair some of them are pretty understandable. Basically, liability supersedes civil liberty in the modern world.

I was stunned that we were forbidden to meet in front of the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C. The Department of Parks and Recreation was not interested in hearing why Jefferson's involvement in crafting the Bill of Rights made their policy ironic.

[The Washington, D.C., Department of Parks and Recreation says it is unable to grant permissions for the Jefferson Memorial because that falls within the domain of the National Park Service.]

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Oboma’s 20,000 strong web site, asked him NOT to vote for FISA, but he did anyway.

Let’s all bombard their web site asking them for help, to rid us of Oboma before he becomes President and does even more damage to our Republic. Be polite, but plug Ron Paul’s 20 year fight for liberty.

If we can win over this crowd, we will have accomplished a miracle. Let’s go for it!

Our slogan should be: DON”T BLAME US, WE VOTED FOR RON PAUL!

hjschaapman

Weren't there some senators who declared that they would absolutely stand in the way of this bill's passage by use of filibuster???

Hm, guess they forgot.

that with an approval rating in single-digits, that any of them up for election this cycle are in trouble already anyway.

I think the idea was to do as much damage as possible before they get tossed.

There is no possible way to even think that this gov't is in any way trustworthy, for ANYTHING at all.
The fact that they try to sell themselves to us for "security" is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. I wouldn't trust them to clean my toilet.

Oh, and where are the "Hanlon's Razor" proponents now?
I suppose they think that this is just ineptitude, right?
No malice here. Riiiiiiiiiiighhht.

You know what should happen next, but won't.

my senator and gave him hell. Not that it will even get read. Hope I do'nt get in trouble for what I wrote it was pretty harsh. But he voted yea and I think that was pretty harsh. Any body else in Va. slam him. Mark warner you are outta there. Told him I'm gonna be spying on him and following him with a tape recorder 24/7

I watched the sad proceedings on cspan.com, but I've been all over Thomas.gov, and cannot find the final vote tally for the FISA Amendment Act vote, so we can clearly see who voted aye or no (and who wasn't even present to vote, like McCain).

Has anyone located the Senate's vote on hr 6304?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

All GOP Senate incumbents are vulnerable this year, not just the eight reported by the MSM. Let's help defeat them all, as well as the Dems that defected on this legislation.

At least one of my senators voted no. And guess what its a democrat Sherrod Brown of Ohio the other guy who is a republican voted yes....How depressing.....

they are all in for a shock...because they are p.o.ing off both sides of the isle..bastards are all rich now and dont care i guess...folks they have sold their souls to the devil....and trying to sell ours...i have never seen such spineless folks in all my life...CLEAN HOUSE....hope there are enough candidates around to at least kick half of them out....they are in their own little world...living like kings and queens and think they are immune to all of us and our demands....and as asleep as most of our population is...maybe they are...who the hell knows..........!!!!!!!!!

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington

Stand up NOW. Use your credentials. let them know you will be advising the constituents and DO IT.
Will you go meet your neighbors NOW? Will you go tell them what is going on? RON PAUL IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR US. HE CAN'T.
LIBERATE YOURSELVES.

I am immensely saddened by this violation of the Fourth Amendment. Our Constitution officially means nothing to our elected officials. We need to vote against every incumbent. Cross over to a democrat if necessary when your Senator and Congressman's election cycle comes up. If any of you votes for any incumbent than you too will be violating the Constitution.

A mockery has been made today of these sacred words......

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Congress has indeed declared "War on Us."

Why did nearly half the Democrats in the House vote for the "FISA Amendments Act" that's now pending in the Senate, when most of them had opposed warrantless spying and telecom immunity before? The answer is that they were bribed, using your tax dollars.

The Washington Post claims a deal was cut: the Democratic Leadership would support the FISA bill if the President would agree to add $95 billion in DOMESTIC spending to the latest Iraq appropriation.

In other words, House Democrats voted to continue the war and sold the Fourth Amendment for $95 billion.

Republicans say they want less spending. Democrats say they want less war. What's their compromise? More spending and more war.