Everyone, I support freedom of speech, but if you met all the delegates I did at the march you would drop Barr like yesterday

I couldn't agree more. This thread is a good example of why the patriot movement has never accomplished much. Even with all the new people on board with Ron Paul common sense still seems illusive for most.

Dividing our energies only weakens us. If your not involved in you your local republican party you're not even in the game. Taking back the republican party is the only strategy that is currently working and has results.

Think about it what have all the marches and events accomplished? Very little. I suppose they are good for attracting new folks and they are fun to do on occasion but most of us are broke from the campaign and can't afford them and for the return on investment as far as helping the cause they are not worth it.

The one event I would have liked to go to as the Sturgis event because at least they had workshops and education etc. on being self reliant.

I think it would be great if Barr gets in the debates however Ron Paul was in the debates and here we are What makes you think Barr will accomplish something Dr. Paul did not?

Until we all as a movement focus the majority of our energy and efforts where it will get the most results and stop wasting so much time and money on feel good events that accomplish little or nothing get used to things getting steadily worse while folks here and elsewhere jump on all sorts of bandwagons going nowhere.

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After our delegates make an awesome showing for Dr. Paul in St. Paul, we hit the ground running to get Barr support and into the debates. We need to convert everybody, even the drug war supporting war mongers. Make em wake up and join us. Could Baldwin and Barr join forces. A Ron Paul coalition?

Ron Paul is a once in a lifetime candidate and our hero. Nothing changes that.

I wish you much success at the Republican Convention and if Ron Paul is nominated then I will support him and I dare say the Libertarian Party will, too. However, I am not going to drop my support for Bob Barr, the Libertarian Presidential candidate. Barr will be on at least 48 state ballots and maybe 50. He is speaking out for individual liberty and against big government and violations of the Constitution every other day on TV. In the latest Zogby poll, Barr is at 6% nationwide, with 10% in New Hampshire and 9% in Nevada. If he can get to 10% nationwide in 3 polls, he will meet the criteria for the first Presidential debate sponsored by Google in September. Then our voice will be heard by millions of Americans who will learn about liberty and how we can restore peace and prosperity. Barr has changed his views, all for the better, since he served in Congress. I am sure most of us have changed our views for the better, too. Life is a learning experience and if our movement is to grow we must accept new people and embrace effective spokespeople. I respect those libertarians who choose to work within the Republican Party. But I am going to keep on working for Bob Barr because, realistically, he is on the front line of the battle for Liberty now.

Just look at the modern Republican and Democrat party.

I wish all Republicans would come to their senses and change their minds like Barr did.

That is our goal around here. If the ones in office do not change then we throw them out. Barr got thrown out. He then stepped back and looked at his time in office and realized his mistakes. I have a hard time seeing how his run is not good for us and Paul.

How can I 'drop' him? I haven't voted for anyone yet. I'm researching options. I researched Reverend Baldwin, I researched Mr. Barr and I've even read through Obama's and McCain's issues pages. I love Dr. Paul - what a rare candidate! The convention is coming fast, then we can all settle down and make our choices.

Concentrate on the RPR but.....can't we f*rt and chew gum at the same time??

"The first thing a man will do for his ideals is lie"
-Joseph A. Schumpeter

Let me try to understand the Anti-Barr bias...So we beat this man in his home state in GA, and he then took a step back and realized the errors of his way, changed his positions, and is now with us in our fight for liberty.......WE CONVERT the man, and then we proceed to hammer away on his past...I don't find that as very intelligent...

WE NEED TO SUPPORT HIM TO GET INTO THE DEBATES! IF HE'S NOT IN THE DEBATES WHO WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT AND THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF OUR MOVEMENT? MCCAIN? OBAMA? STOP THE HATE AND AT LEAST REALIZE THAT HE IS A STEP FORWARD FROM THE BIG GOV. POLICIES! THIS REVOLUTION WILL COME IN SMALL STEPS AND WILL TAKE TIME! WE NEED PEOPLE TO HEAR OUR MAIN MESSAGE, AND BARR IS OUR ONLY SHOT IN SPREADING THE MESSAGE IN THE DEBATES. WE NEED HIM!

but got kicked off the bus he had payed to ride on by Baldwin supporters who didn't like that he was supporting himself?

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BOB on my knob BARR---- in a video telling about his vote for the patriot act.. and you guys want this guy to represent you??!!!!
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I'm trying ot be brief because I don' t think most of you are capable of changing your minds because your so entrenched in your opinions, but may I ask a few question...with regard to the last couple of posts I really don't see the supposed argument.

In one posts, one mention the notion that they just don't trust him, but maybe in 2012 I will. What is there to trust?! Let's face it he's not going to win, so what on God's earth is their to trust? He is saying the right things now, and that is all you should trust because after November the presidential election and subsequently, Barr's campaign is over. Now, Let's say he wins the election, is that really such a bad thing? Either Obama or Mccain are going to win, and any one of us would rather have Barr in the White House. What he is saying now is what most of us would overwhelmingly agree with and they are further getting into mainstream with the Time magazine article "The (Not-so) Lunatic fringe. His message of liberty and limited government is going mainstream and why are we here trying to halt the forward progress? Rome wasn't built in a day...

Now to the post about Barr being a Neo-con plant...This attack to me is almost hysterically funny but it shouldn't be because the truth is conspiracy theorists believe it as gospel. Do you even consider using a minutiae of reason behind that attack? Why would the Neo-Cons plant Barr? So he could help John Mccain lose? I don't think that would be very productive on your part...Try to find a shred of reasoned, logical argument in support of you theory before you continue to slander the man wrongfully.

and some who will support RP or others.
People will make up their own minds.

I like Dr. Paul's positions.
He differs from certain Libertarian Party platform planks in the areas where I also differ. And he differs from Barr in the areas that I also differ from Barr.
I'm not a member of the LP, and don't plan to be.
So to me, RP is the preferred candidate.
Simple as that.

If it comes to a situation where AFTER the RNC convention in September, it is a finality that RP will not be in the race, and it is official, then I will look at other candidates which could serve as a 2nd choice for me.

I thought this was the Daily Paul? I thought this was about the Revolution March and the Campaign For Liberty. Where was Bob Barr when that asshat Guiliani was snickering at Ron in the debates? Where was Bob Barr when the media was oscillating between smear campaign and blackout? Where was Bob Barr for the 20 years when Ron Paul was the sole voice of reason in the wilderness? Where was Bob Barr when liberty needed patriots to support Dr Paul in the primaries? Was Bob Barr at the March? Will he be at the C4L rally? Will he walk 280 miles with me and my fellow patriots into Minneapolis?

I will grant you that this is about liberty, not Ron Paul. And the campaign for liberty will include lots of candidates in lots of races from dog catcher to president over the next 10 - 20 years. But supporting Johnny-come-lately's who voted for the Patriot Act, who supported this neo-fascist regime, who suddenly sees money and votes like low hanging fruit ... supporting people like this isn't on my agenda.

We will come away from the rally in September with a clear vision for this election and many to come. In the interim, Bob Barr could do some repenting ... maybe make a stand at a personal cost against the Fed ... do something beyond lip service to garner all the support Ron and all of us worked so hard to build. In my heart, I smell a rat in Bob Barr. It is on him to prove me wrong.

But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does. - James 1:25

DailyPAUL. If Barr proves himself over the next 4 years, maybe 2012 is his year, but while the libertarian party might think they converted Barr, I think the Republicans have planted Barr to help minimalize Ron Paul. Many libertarians I have met do not back Barr and are actually leaving the party because of him. Sorry, his supposed turnaround is just too great to believe and he has to tow the line for awhile. Ron Paul has had liberatarian ideals for years and years and has proven his time, over and over. We should have one set of Goals - Ron Paul, Ron Paul Candidates, the National Convention to be played out as hard and fast as we can scramble, Ron Paul mini-Convention participation, and long term Campaign for Liberty. This is the year of the Patriots.

IT'S DOABLE

As a long time LP member, I know there was this EXACT type of Barr bashing happening about a year ago within LP circles, except it was Paul bashing! I could post link after link of articles bashing Paul on how he was not, "a true Libertarian" or "libertarian enough". Let alone all the reason we should never support him as he is a REPUBLICAN and we have all the proof in the world how corrupt that party is to the bone, corruption is in their very DNA as a party. Hell, if you guys would take off your blinders to that, you would see what they do, have done, and will continue to do, to stop Paul in his tracks. When you do, you will realize that the Republicans will never ever ever ever let Paul be their nominee, You can send them all the DVDs that Blockbuster and netflix rent in 5 years and they will not change, as a party.

The only thing you can do is pick one or two of them off at a time and that is EXACTLY what happened with Barr. The LP went after him and it made him realize he was WRONG. That process took several years. Its never easy to admit you are wrong but as individuals we can do it. Collectively however will never happen and that's why going after the "party" (as in the collective) as a whole will not work. Now you can go after the delegates, but you must know that at BEST you may get to 5% or maybe if you send really really hypnotic DVDs you might get 6% of them. We still loose.

In spite of this, last year I left the LP and for the first time registered as a Republican, I went to NH to campaign for Paul. I know how to campaign as I ran twice for congress, used to be a county chair for the LP and have done any number of things politically. What did I find out? It was as hard to get people to look at Paul as it was to get them to look at anyone from the LP. People are not easily converted. I thought maybe with him have the R label might help, but it didn't.

So here we have now one person who we have converted and you guys endlessly bash him. How stupid is that? You Bash him yet two seconds later you say you will convert the Republicans enough to vote for Paul!? How stupid are you folks? I mean I don't want to insult anyone but really lets be honest here, how stupid are you being over this?

Some times I read this kind of ongoing bashing and really get to thinking there is no hope as the people who should be at least logical about politics are just as blind and dumb as the masses. As for me, I'm going back to the LP and will proudly support Bob Barr as he is the best choice of the current choices (As Ron Paul is NOT an option as he choose not to run outside the R party after he LOST that party's nomination). If this site is ONLY about Paul, then it should be shut down as Paul LOST, he can not win, he LOST, just like the ghoul, and the huckster, Fred and the rest, he did not win. McSame is who won and that is reality. You might want to deny that, and refuse to believe it, but if you look, Paul doesn't. The fact is he is NOT going to be nominated and he will be the first to admit it.