Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney - unexpected help for the Revolution?
Posted July 13th, 2008 by TomJefferson
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She's on Cspan now - 7:54pm - speaking on behalf of the Green Party. I like her a lot. She's a spitfire for Freedom and has taken on the big guys! She is fearless in standing up to the NeoCons and is in support of Impeachment.
Speaking against Iraq occupation
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Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld/Pentagon on missing trillions
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Clip from Alex Jones Infowars
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She's obviously a leftist,
but there are some issues that can cross political lines, such as the war, and truth about 9/11.
Limited agreement on certain issues like that may be beneficial to both sides.
I don't really agree much with her, and she's not the best person for public relations either. But, some issues in politics can make strange bedfellows, even if only for one night stands.
But, it certainly is true that most of her stances are very hard left.
it amazes me
that people who are so rabidly against Barr, whose at least saying all the right things, would rally behind McKinney and be blinded into thinking anything she does could be good for us. Especially when she hasn't changed her views from when she was in congress, oh no wait, yay she's more pro environment.
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It's disgusting...McKinney over Barr??
I know it's awful. The more I go on this site, the more I am shocked at some people's lack of discernment...It's amazing. They make this woman out to be great, and Barr is the scum of the earth...
what is liberty
There are some here on the DP who really do not (yet) understand what liberty is. This is a public board and anyone can join and post. There is no pre-screening, no Constitutional test and no requirement to join. All that is fine with me, but don't be too surprised when you see it come out in their positions and understanding of what the Doc is truly talking about.
Did anyone even see the speech besides tomjefferson?
Nationalized health care? All she kept talking about was a, and i quote "hip-hop culture" and she kept saying that repeatedly. She was talking about giving benefits to rappers and all this other non-sense. She may be against the war, but there is more to this story than the small clips shown above, believe me.
WHAT?!
I saw this woman give her acceptance speech for the green party last evening, and I was initially intrigued. But she then was discussing the evils of this country and she went on to mention that CAPITALISM, YES CAPITALISM was a problem of this great country. She also went on to talk about nationalized health care and how it must be brought to this country. NO TRUE, SELF-RESPECTING RON PAUL SUPPORTER WOULD THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR THIS WOMAN! Forgive me for forgetting how great, successful, and rewarding communism has shown itself to be...
she ment
corporate welfare pseudo capitalism of the globalist warmongering scum...
and she wants a new investigation into events of 9/11
takes guts.
Yes, but
So her solution to pseudo capitalism is.......complete socialism? Nationalized health care is OK with you? No one can claim they are in the Revolution and support principles of a man/woman who base their political principles on collectivism...Dr. Paul would be ashamed
I think someone already responded to that point....
but good observation. We all can't agree on everything....
On July 13th, 2008 libertylover4 says:
Monopoly capitalist is the problem. I've heard her speak and she's
is not for the overthrow of capitalism.
Is she the one
Who hit the Capitol policeman just for checking before she went in Congress, just like everybody else ?
Operation Gridlock
this is a name I've heard floated about by several different people. The idea is to get as many people to vote for 3rd party candidates as possible. So the people to vote for are:
-WRITE IN RON PAUL
-Bob Barr
-Chuck Baldwin
-Ralph Nader
-Cynthia McKinney
(anyone else?)
The point is to make sure neither Democrat nor Republican candidates get a majority (more than 50%) of the vote.
I think this is a tremendous idea and one that should be put together by the Freedom Coaltion-anyone else with me?
Other than the write-in part
Other than the write-in part yeah. You need a vote that will be counted because it needs to count against McBama. But yeah that's pretty much where I've been standing on this. All the 3rd parties are in the same boat as far as I'm concerned and it's that boat that is threatening to the establishment. It is somewhat of an ultimatum, nominate Paul or else... If they call our bluff and stay-the-course and the ship goes down, I'm suggesting saving Baldwin. By my estimation there is far less resistance to Baldwin than any of the others. Unfortunately Baldwin has the least amount of name recognition and a looming ballot access issue. So if you are down with Baldwin I suggest you contact the campaign and get some signatures for ballot access in your state.
We should also be petitioning the Commission on Presidential Debates and pressure them to allow these respective 3rd parties in the debates.
As for the House and Senate... the incumbents must go. Pelosi, Ried, Graham... the list goes on and on.
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I Agree, the Problem is the Two Party Crime Syndicate
JSHowell, this is an idea that I have blogged at other web sites.
Every four years the American people focus their attention on choosing a presidential candidate from the Democratic party or the Republican party. The majority of citizens never consider another party to rule over us. For over 150 years, these two entrenched ideologies have degraded our economy with oppressive interventionism supported by a crushing national tax system. Low income people who continue to be enslaved with the ‘drug’ of perpetual state welfare. A federally mandated education system that has been unsuccessful in motivating and teaching our young the basic skills needed to prepare themselves for the future. A crumbling infrastructure of poorly maintained bridges and highways. A foreign policy that has failed miserably under the pretense of ‘democracy’ at the point of a gun, vis-à-vis Status of Force Agreements (SOFA).
It doesn’t matter who the candidate is, the two party crime syndicate bolstered by special interest group bureaucrats control government at the federal and state levels. The people grumble and complain to themselves or blog on the Internet, but as soon as government gives us a spoonful of “sugar” (i.e., tax rebate) our minds react as if we received a dose of Ritalin. The Media which traditionally was the people’s advocate, has been comprised through mergers and acquisitions and now serves its corporate masters.
We the people have all the power, yet we persist on electing representatives of the same two parties who continue to serve their own interests and not ours. When are we going to stand up and take control of our own country’s destiny?
Can anyone in their right mind deny we have been lied to by the leadership of this nation with the aide of a complicit media? I’m not just writing about the President and Vice President, but the entire Congress made up of Republicans and Democrats as well. This is not a government of the people, but a consortium of fascist elitists. Government carries on with ever increasing expansion in size and power at the financial expense of the people, who receive less and less. They create an atmosphere of fear about terrorism, but the nexus of terrorism is located in Washington, DC.
So what must we do for ourselves and our families to end this obvious tyranny of deception and manipulation? I’ll tell you what I will do. As a registered Independent for every election, I will vote for a candidate who is not a Democrat or Republican. I don’t care if the candidate is not well connected, doesn’t looks pretty or has two heads. It doesn’t matter to me. Anything is better than the two parties we currently have in power today.
Who are these other candidates? WHO CARES!! They aren’t running as a democrat or republican and that’s what counts! Do some research on your own and find out which one is:
A – Not an insane fascist war profiteer (like Bush/Cheney).
B – Not a career politician who owes their soul to a Washington bureaucrat.
C – Doesn’t think government has the right to run your life and steal your freedoms.
D – What ever else is important to you.
How will the corporate fascist media respond? Let’s see.
1. “Oh, if we have a third party President, that will cause gridlock in Congress.”
No, what it will do is scare the panties off these career politicians when they realize the American people have the moxie to revolt against decades of corruption. These smug senators and representatives will be next to go to the unemployment line.
2. “These other party ideologies are too extreme for main stream America.”
Too extreme, you say?
The Constitutional Party supports adherence to the U.S. Constitution; America’s living document bound to the people. What’s not to like about that?
The Libertarian Party favors smaller federal government involvement in your life. I guess if you’re a socialist and want a handout instead of a hand up, this party would not be your choice.
The Independent Party is just what it says, “independence” from the continuous democratic and republican party dogma of welfare and warfare.
The Green Party wants a healthier planet. Jeez, don’t we all?
3. “Voting for a third party will be a wasted vote.”
Wasted for whom, the deep-rooted two-party system that has repeatedly failed the country?
The bottom line is if you want to swallow the same political crap year after year, then go ahead, pull the lever for your “party” candidate.
But if you truly want to effect change, get some backbone; vote for anyone other than a Democrat or Republican candidate.
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Freedom Coalition is a great idea.
truth is if we don't unite we could all end up united in FEMA camps...
true that...
I don't mean to dilute attention and support to the efforts to make Ron Paul President, but we should support people like Cynthia at the Congressional level with donations, etc...as part of the Campaign for Liberty movement.
yes... wait... WHAT???
"but we should support people like Cynthia at the Congressional level with donations, etc"
donations? are you crazy, with the mere trickle of funds that's going towards liberty candidates, you think we should be channeling funds to a socialistic, anti-small government, anti-capitalist, elitist like McKinney?
Bringing awareness so that democrats who won't join our movement will at least have an alternative, yes I'm for it. But donating and giving our time to a candidate whose just as bad as the people in office (and once was one.) I can't go along with that.
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WHAT'S WRONG WITH SUPPORTING SOCIALISTS!?
I swear...we should be donating our money to collectivists sympathizer like McKinney over Individualists sympathizers who happen to be the foundation of our movement? What is wrong with some of you people?
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yes
and I hope we help Cindy Sheehan win Nancy the warmonger Pelosi seat in Congress...
tidal wave for change.
Cynthia is a beautiful soul
we need more people like her.
YEA...................
A beautiful soul who wants to steal my money and and use it for the "greater good". Nothing beautiful about that...
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It is very refreshing to see Cynthia McKinney back in the spotlight this woman is the real deal and I like her alot. The Green Party made an excellent choice and it will be interesting to see how this plays out with the Democrats who colluded with the Republicans to take away her House seat for speaking out against this evil war. On another note this website has been completely infiltrated by RNC and DNC plants screaming for Bob Barr and other modus operandi, you are fooling nobody.
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can't this lady speak without looking back at her notes constantly? Come on Cynthia we know your speeches are prepared, you don't have to remind us every three seconds.
Am I wrong, or isn't this the same woman who verbally abused and slapped a recently hired guard at the doors of congress because he asked her to provide identification (something we ordinary plebs have to when we enter congress.) She isn't a defender of our beliefs, she's an elitist.
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I don't understand the ire
I don't understand the ire on here for this woman. Is she a socialist? Yes, but she is also tough enough to go after the bad guys and do her duty in Congress. There's a reason she was pushed out.
In the past, and the present, The People would petition, push and shove to get a greater share of the power in running the state. Where they almost invariably failed was in selecting those among themselves to represent them. Seldom could The People compromise or learn enough to come to an agreement when it came time to choose individuals to take the reigns of power. As such they (we) were (are) seldom able to to rise above the disorganized brute strength of a mob; a mob mostly manipulated and ultimately ruled by those who could compromise and who did learn enough to understand because their goals weren't what was good, but only what gave them more immediate power.
If we are ever going to take back this country for We The People, we are going to need to stop bickering over this or that point and assist those who want to genuinely help, and especially those with a track record to prove it.
I don't like McKinney's economic policies but, honestly, neither her nor her supporters know any better. I know this because I've talked to them and her at a fund raising lunch I helped the Green Party put together. Its our job to educate ourselves so that we can engage with and educate her supporters. We can't do that if their is animosity between us over one or two issues when there are a number of issues we agree on. If you go to Green Party meetings and talk to people about fiat debt based money and the Federal Reserve, they will listen. You just need to have respect for them, listen to what they are saying and understand the economics well enough to explain it. You won't have a 100% conversion of anyone at that meeting but you can give them information and plant seeds. In time, their positions will become less socialist and we can come together better to fight our common enemy.
This is the best post on
This is the best post on here in awhile. I wholeheartedly agree with you. We MUST learn tolerance and understand that True Patriots come in many forms. If you are FOR the Constitution and its non-intervention policies and liberties and gold standard then you are on my side. People can be woken up gently as well as quickly.
"There's a reason she was pushed out."
She wasn't "pushed" out, she was VOTED out, because the people of her district were tired of her. The woman was an embarassment, and nominating her is the biggest mistake the greens have made yet.
-jcr
The NeoCons pushed her out
How is she a embarassment? enlighten us..
Yes the neocons
pushed her out.
We're not all going to agree on all issues.
Absolutely!
"She's a spitfire for Freedom" 4sure!
There is nothing, she will hesitate to say or ask! GO Girl!!
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This Women Speaks TRUTH
Anyone that speaks against her is either ill informed are has a agenda. Please dont forget the motto is to divide and conquer. I dont agree with all her policies but she is a ally to the Revolution. I could vote her or Chuck, but i could never vote for Barroot.
ok, I admit...
I didn't do my research, but I'm getting desperate for any one who is brave enough to speak out and help us with some of our short term goals. November is not far away. I'll edit the title, how's that? :)
Unbeleiveable
I cannot understand the bashing of this woman. Did you listen to the youtube vid of her grilling Rumsfeld? If she was a globalist /ocialist she would be supporting barrack or hilary... but instead she is breaking with the democrats!! Hey... i dont know much about the "Green Party"... but isnt nader their nominee? Thats alot better than CIA Barr.
Also, she isnt one of "them".... she seems like one of "us". She isnt an insider. Im no liberal, been a conservative my whole life, paloeconservative as its called, with some libertarian leanings... but there are many many liberals who I like and admire because they share 1 common trait... honesty. Jesse Ventura...this guy is minnesota liberal! But he is honest so id support him. Cindy sheehan. Liberal! But she is honest and she is a real person not a corporate spokeperson so i support her. Mrs. Cynthia McKinney stood up to the freakin bohemian grove/globalist/evil/cfr/newworldorder scum with vigor demanding openness in government and honesty from our leaders and that took more courage than i can imagine. I know of only 1 other politian who has shown that much courage... his name is Ron Paul. I think her voice would be a valueable asset to the revolution!
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Globalists.
The Green Party is well known as a widespread international party with a globalist agenda. It's pretty clear in their platform. Virtually every developed country has a Green party and they want to implement a global government. Sure they may have some of the same short term goals as Libertarians, but the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
I hate to burst
your bubble but all the damn parties are widespread international parties with a globalist agenda, every single one. Stop looking at parties and look at the individual. We are fighting all the parties. We are looking for Individuals with Integrity not party affiliation or platforms because that is all fairytale BS.
These party platforms change on a dime. If they hate her that makes her one of us. Peace
Gee that's news to me...
What's the Libertarian "globalist agenda"? We HATE globalism!
Care to enlighten us???
*crickets*
Barr's platform
sounds more neocon than Libertarian. My son's a Libertarian and he can't figure him out. Peace
She is a political whore ...
Sorry to be so blunt.
WAHOR!!
Sorry I have to disagree
Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one rhino. You may not agree with her fine, I can appreciate that but she is brave and has had more chutzpah while in office than almost any other politician. Of course she's a truther so ... never mind.
I actually did not know that about her ...
and I respect your opinion, but I am simply adding my two cents.
My post still stands. I will leave it at that.
WAHOR!!
I think we are running
out of time. This woman knows we are about to go down as a nation, Kucinich and some others do to. I don't think we are in the position to be picky any longer. This is getting serious real fast. She is against the establishment that makes her my friend we can work out details afterward.
The point is Dr. Paul and these other Constitutional Freedom loving leaders better have a conference real quick and work something out and stand united, or we will all be cell mates and sit and argue behind bars as to what form of government is best. Peace
"Work out details afterward" LOL
That's a good one. Let's see, I don't think you could get any farther apart than McKinney and the "living document Constitution" and Dr. Paul and "THE CONSTITUTION" as it was written. If there were a gun to my head I would even vote for Obama or McCain before McKinney. This is more ridiculous than Nader being with Dr. Paul.
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Well, if I am surrounded
by thugs and I am out numbered I would rather take my chances with her than the thugs. I heard her speak enough to know that they will have a cell with her name on it. That makes her ok in my book. It is not likely there will even be an election if Israel bombs Iran. "Things would be a lot easier if this was a dictatorship and I was the dick" (I fudged this sounds better to me lol)
Is this about the ladies or
Is this about the ladies or is this about selecting the right person for VP? If it's about the ladies, i'll go with Ruwart.
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I'm skeptical
I'd don't really care to research her, but I remember Boortz talking about her socialist ideas and her arrogance. He called her a jihadist. What was the story about her assaulting a cop at a security checkpoint while in Congress?
Doesn't seem like a good match at all.
The cop story...
She was not wearing her House pin (a pin that all Congresscreatures and Dr. Paul wear on the Hill to indicate that they are members of Congress) and tried to force her way through a security checkpoint on her way to her office. She was miffed that the DC cop didn't know her on sight, and he followed proper procedure to detain her to verify identity and that she was where she was supposed to be, and she slapped him.
She didn't get charged with assault because she cited immunity under Article I Section 6.
She got voted out the nest election cycle by her constituents, mainly because she was portrayed, accurately or not, as a loose cannon and an arrogant nutcase b*tch.
It should be noted she's been voted out twice.
Co-option Option?
The palatable portions of the Green Party's platform were already embraced by libertarians decades before the beginning of the Gaiaist Surge:
Pollution is Trespass
Pollution is Violence
Pollution is Aggression.
No one has the right to poison his neighbor simply by virtue of living uphill, upstream, or upwind of him.
Congressmember McKinney and her Green Legions have nothing to offer us but their mailing lists.
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Professor Bernardo de la Paz
move
on from this democrat. and stay focused
hmmm
she also endorsed Cynthia McKinney. She would be good for 911 trurther's,
but let us face it and be realistic: one can work with her on common causes, but VP under Paul? under which ticket? It is never going to happen with the GOP and Dr. Paul will not go Indy and she has already a Hispanic
music star from NY - with connections to the Black Panther's - as her VP for the Green Party. They are GP big govt. socialists.
A good VP for Paul would be gov. Gary Johnson or Mark Sanford.
OMG
No wonder the liberty movement has so much trouble, why don't you just suggest Hugo Chavez or Kim Jung Ill excepting that they much more intelligent than Cynthia McKinney.
Please do at least the smallest amount of research on someone before deciding they sound like a good match for Dr. Paul. Geeezzzz!
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