new coins- No "In God We Trust" is this true?

They're worth more as scrap ;)

I'm from a southern baptist family. Our government doesn't deserve to be allowed to put the word God on the stuff they counterfeit, even the coins are rubbish.

I'd as soon have them remove it.

In fact the more I see government involved in religion, the more I think about the times of Jesus and the Romans.

If there was ever an analog to the Roman empire and it's treatment of people that weren't mainstream....it's The United States of America.

would have been perfect on a coin.

In God We Trust

All Others Cash

(he might need to alter that somehow to reflect how are trust for FRNs is going south, and pronto)

In America we have freedom of religion, "In God we Trust" should never have been on the coins in the first place, not everyone believes in God nor should they have to. Atheists have just as much right as we do to believe or not believe. Good riddance, money is the most corrupt evil thing on the planet. Federal Reserve Notes should be honest anyway, they need to say who they really owe homage to, in Satan we trust. At least be honest now that you control 100% of our government. Like we can do anything about it at this point. God didn't inspire the bail out and we were helpless to stop it.

In Ron We Trust!

Those tokens called "coins" are issued by the Federal Government.

The Bible says: " Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."

To make a false claim or false oath involving the name of God is a grave sin, and will incur His wrath.

Does the Federal Government trust in God? Do those using the coins, for the most part, trust in God?

Very likely it is better to be honest and leave off the slogan rather than to commit yet another reason for God to judge America.

I really liked the Norfed coins, which said "Trust in God." That I can wholeheartedly endorse. YOU WILL NOT FIND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SERIOUSLY MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION!

The same goes for the Pledge, which, even in its original form was written by a socialist liberal preacher with the aim of enhancing federalism. and unquestioning support for the Federal Government during the heyday of the Progressive movement.

To hold onto anything, especially in large quantity, in which all others "belief" that there is a represent value to it, is foolish.

"In God We Trust" is written around the outside rim. I was ready to dump them too.

Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa

This statement was not originally on our money but I think we have more important things to worry about then a statement on a bill don't you? These are bills of credit anyways and prohibited by the constitution so I don't care what's on them really we need to get rid of them period.

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I don't find money more valuable because it has In God we Trust on it. It is just an instrument used for trading. In fact if our monetary system collapses and money no longer exists, then the sun will probably still shin, flowers will still bloom and rain will probably still fall from the sky. The later will occur because of God, not because we put, In God we Trust on money. God doesn't need, use or promote the use of money, this is an invention of men.
grant

If you support the Constitution, you would be glad that this phrase was being stripped from our currency. The United States is secular and for very good reasons. We must not have the government sponsor religion, no matter how innocuous it may seem.

this is a persistent rumor. The phrase "In God We Trust" is on the edge of the coin. But most importantly why is it so important to put this phrase on fake money issued by a Satanic banking cult?

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This one is bogus with the following caveats.

For starters, the phrase has only been on coins since the early 20th century.

Second, the new dollar coins had the phrase moved to the rim with edge lettering rather than on the face of the coin.

Third, SOME coins were erroneously produced without it. This is not intentional, but had to do with a mistake in the different process of edge lettering.

Fourth, after touring the mint in Denver this summer, the tour guide addressed the issue as a sensitive point with Americans and assured us that the problem was fixed and that they are trying to remove the error coins as quickly as possible from circulation. She also stated that the phrase is being returned to the face of the coin so there is no confusion.

There are bigger fish to fry than chasing a vanishing phantom. Do something more productive.

Does it belong on a coin? Kind of like adding 'under God" to the pledge of allegiance. Add them - subtract them - did they have a place there in the first place?

Separation of church and state, my friends. "In Allah We Trust" would certainly rustle a few feathers.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

In God We Trust is printed on the side of the coin, not the front any more.

To trust in a god is to trust in an imaginary construction of the human mind, an artifact of our rhetorical delusions.

Removing "In God We Trust" sounds to me like a fine gesture towards a return to sound money based on real commodities.

If only it were true and more than just a gesture...

HEY it's the worlds LOSS not mine.....
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Mint gold coins, and stamp "In Gold We Trust" on them.

-jcr

What theists are essentially saying is that the motto -- which has only been there officially since the 1950s -- is an inherent feature of currency, and that to remove it is to oppress them.

This is clearly absurd. The unfairness comes when unbelievers are left with no tenable option other than to use currency which offends them. It is directly offensive to an unbeliever for the money to mention God; it cannot possibly be offensive to theists for it NOT to mention God, because I can name any number of objects that do not mention God, which you use all the time.

Imagine if Christians were a minority in the US, having been superseded by Satanists. Now imagine that they replaced "In God We Trust" with "All Hail Lord Lucifer." Now imagine that the only tenable way for you to avoid using this money would be to become a subsistence farmer or move to a barter community.

This is essentially the situation unbelievers are in. You would go far in demonstrating your Christian empathy by agreeing that it is unfair -- and utterly unnecessary -- to infuse the universal common currency with a non-universal profession of faith.

And let's not forget what Jesus said about rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Do you really think God wants his name plastered all over something as base as currency?

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You kids argue all you want, have fun, get your creative juices flowing. Debate sharpens you. However, I don't give a flying shit what they stamp or don't stamp on that useless coinage. It's good when you can't find a stone to skip and if your creative enough, it'll scrape your ass clean in an emergency. For all I care they can stamp a picture of Mary Poppins it, at least then you might be able to collect it and sell it for more later.

there isnt a mix of church and state, our money supply is privately owned. you know that. No they are taking in god we trust off the rim and i think they will include it on the coin somewhere Dont forget the 1972 double die penny you can pick this up cheap and it may take off in value because no one knows how many there are

I happen to work at "the place" that makes these decisions and implements them...and this is a crazy rumor.

Finally they take that out.

Its about time that they took reference to God off of there, There should be no mix of church and state at all. It doesn't belong there

Yes, some of the coins are missing Psalm 91:2. But the ones that have it are on the rim of the coin. Some are even double-strikes, meaning that it got tamped twice, one offset from the other.

It's just the Mint goofing up. It happens. Some more famous examples of late:

1937 3-legged Buffalo nickel
1955-S Double strike penny
1970s dates over dates dimes (lots of versiosn of those)
1990-P double strike penny

And occasionally they'll strike the wrong coin on a round. They call those "mules" and when they hit circulaiton, they are worth a lot.

Others get struck off-center, same situation.

It happens to paper money as well, that's why "star" notes exist--they're replacements for defectives, but even those get into circulation every once in a while.

This email is just some nutcase venting outrage over that which he knows nothing.

Troyusaguy, disregard it.

At least part of our government has some sense! It doesn't belong there and never has.

Doc Holladay
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Gold.......Oil...........Drugs
That is the only God this Govt. cares about.

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Ventura/Paul 2008

Out of government, and off my money.

Do you support the Constitution or not?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

NO LAW. End of story.

First, the coins missing the so-called motto are the correct ones. That's why they are worth more. The Mint calls them printing errors, when in fact, the so-called motto on coinage has been the errors from day one.

BTW, "In God we Trust" was originally supposed to be "my God, in whom I trust" which is a direct Bible quote from Psalms 91:2. That's according to the Congressional Record of testimony on the original bill. How much more direct can you get on that First Amendment infringement???

Second, this does not apply to the private FRN currency, because it is private and not public money.

Third, a dollar coin, religious slogan or not, costs 4X a paper dollar, but lasts 60X longer, so they are cheaper to produce, even with increased metal prices. Seems to me that we ought to promote their use as a cost-saving measure for government. Other nations figured this out long ago.

Fourth, for all you First Amendment illiterates, do the math:

Establishment Clause + Free Exercise Clause = Separation of Church and State.

The why is left as an exercise, but I'll give you two hint: 1. the two clauses force complete neutrality by government regarding all religion. 2. Reread Jefferson's Danbury letter on the nature of worshipping God. Connect the dots.