new coins- No "In God We Trust" is this true?
I recieved this email, do any of you know if its true?
REFUSE NEW
COINS
This simple action
will make a strong statement. Just Do It.
Please
help do this.. refuse to accept these when they are handed to you. I
received one from the Post Office as change and I asked for a dollar bill
instead. The lady just smiled and said 'way to go' so she had read this e-mail.
Please help out....our world is in enough trouble without this too!!!!
U.S.
Government to Release New Dollar Coins
You
guessed it
'IN GOD WE TRUST'
IS
GONE!!!
If
ever there was a reason to boycott something, THIS IS IT!!!!
DO
NOT ACCEPT THE NEW DOLLAR COINS AS CHANGE
Together
we can force them out of circulation.
Please
send to all on your mail list !!!















Wow
I thought the fact that the coins were tokens of the greatest fraud ever perpetrated in the history of the planet was bad. But THIS is REALLY something to get worked up about! Even if it is false, people should get worked up about it because I am sure that if the enemies of God COULD have gotten his name off the coin they would have. So everyone focus on the little symbols on the coin and ignore monetary policy.
If only God were in bigger letters on our money, we probably wouldn't be having this depression.
Sheesh.
it is false
but in all reality do you think that God would mind having people think of Him every time they pick up our fiat money or money in general? That is certainly one argument that comes from the "religious" side that I don't get. I myself think of "In God We Trust" as taking the Lords name in vain. Blasphemy if you ask me.
agreed, God hates dishonest
agreed, God hates dishonest scales, what's more dishonest than counterfeit fiat money? To put his name on that IS blasphemy.
False
Go look at the edge of a dollar coin.
Which God?
I always wondered which God people are talking about when they talk about God.
Mammon? Lucifer? Allah? Loki? Molech? Shiva?
new coins
actually they are working on one with "In Obama We Trust", just kidding. It would only seem logical that they would take "In God We Trust" off everything, aren't we all supposed to be looking to the all mighty Feds as the answer to all? Look at the dollar coin they have with the Indian girl who was sold into slavery, they have her image with the baby she had by the old guy who owned her. Nothing like commemorating child slavery, but I'm sure they look at it different then I do. It's all fiat currency anyway, why involve God in something false.
I will spend and desire their funny money forever. As long as
it says things on it that I like. And it has to be pretty. Who the hell cares if the money says "In monkey poop we trust"? It's money, not a chance to convert people from atheism.
Maybe it will say
In Bernanke we trust!
Separation of Church and State Document
The phrase separation of church and state is not in the constitution, declaration of independence or the bill of rights as most Americans suppose. It is in a letter one man wrote to another, that's it! The founding fathers of our nation have always held to their belief in God and the Bible.
Don't be so sure about that....
...Here's a very good article that sheds a little light (a little more than some may want), on the topic of our "founding father's religious beliefs".
http://www.thenation.com/...
If you don't read the full article, at least read the last paragraph, really cuts to the point.
Have a great one folks!
Guzzler
Only accept pennies and nickels.
They're worth more as scrap ;)
I'm from a southern baptist
I'm from a southern baptist family. Our government doesn't deserve to be allowed to put the word God on the stuff they counterfeit, even the coins are rubbish.
I'd as soon have them remove it.
In fact the more I see government involved in religion, the more I think about the times of Jesus and the Romans.
If there was ever an analog to the Roman empire and it's treatment of people that weren't mainstream....it's The United States of America.
In Gold We Trust
would have been perfect on a coin.
always did like my barber's sign
In God We Trust
All Others Cash
(he might need to alter that somehow to reflect how are trust for FRNs is going south, and pronto)
so what?
In America we have freedom of religion, "In God we Trust" should never have been on the coins in the first place, not everyone believes in God nor should they have to. Atheists have just as much right as we do to believe or not believe. Good riddance, money is the most corrupt evil thing on the planet. Federal Reserve Notes should be honest anyway, they need to say who they really owe homage to, in Satan we trust. At least be honest now that you control 100% of our government. Like we can do anything about it at this point. God didn't inspire the bail out and we were helpless to stop it.
In Ron We Trust!
In Ron We Trust!
Think About It
Those tokens called "coins" are issued by the Federal Government.
The Bible says: " Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."
To make a false claim or false oath involving the name of God is a grave sin, and will incur His wrath.
Does the Federal Government trust in God? Do those using the coins, for the most part, trust in God?
Very likely it is better to be honest and leave off the slogan rather than to commit yet another reason for God to judge America.
I really liked the Norfed coins, which said "Trust in God." That I can wholeheartedly endorse. YOU WILL NOT FIND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SERIOUSLY MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION!
The same goes for the Pledge, which, even in its original form was written by a socialist liberal preacher with the aim of enhancing federalism. and unquestioning support for the Federal Government during the heyday of the Progressive movement.
Consider...
To hold onto anything, especially in large quantity, in which all others "belief" that there is a represent value to it, is foolish.
I've had these dollar coins for almost year I think.
"In God We Trust" is written around the outside rim. I was ready to dump them too.
Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
This statement was not
This statement was not originally on our money but I think we have more important things to worry about then a statement on a bill don't you? These are bills of credit anyways and prohibited by the constitution so I don't care what's on them really we need to get rid of them period.
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Big deal.
I don't find money more valuable because it has In God we Trust on it. It is just an instrument used for trading. In fact if our monetary system collapses and money no longer exists, then the sun will probably still shin, flowers will still bloom and rain will probably still fall from the sky. The later will occur because of God, not because we put, In God we Trust on money. God doesn't need, use or promote the use of money, this is an invention of men.
grant
I hope you are correct!
If you support the Constitution, you would be glad that this phrase was being stripped from our currency. The United States is secular and for very good reasons. We must not have the government sponsor religion, no matter how innocuous it may seem.
First of all...
this is a persistent rumor. The phrase "In God We Trust" is on the edge of the coin. But most importantly why is it so important to put this phrase on fake money issued by a Satanic banking cult?
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This one is bogus with the following caveats.
For starters, the phrase has only been on coins since the early 20th century.
Second, the new dollar coins had the phrase moved to the rim with edge lettering rather than on the face of the coin.
Third, SOME coins were erroneously produced without it. This is not intentional, but had to do with a mistake in the different process of edge lettering.
Fourth, after touring the mint in Denver this summer, the tour guide addressed the issue as a sensitive point with Americans and assured us that the problem was fixed and that they are trying to remove the error coins as quickly as possible from circulation. She also stated that the phrase is being returned to the face of the coin so there is no confusion.
There are bigger fish to fry than chasing a vanishing phantom. Do something more productive.
Uh, not entirely
"In God we trust", AKA Psalm 91:2, first showed up on coinage around the late 1850s.
But the rest is accurate.
I'd also add that some rims were double-striked, meaning there is TWO gods to trust in--the theists don't know which one to trust in! LOL!
Whether you believe in God or not...
Does it belong on a coin? Kind of like adding 'under God" to the pledge of allegiance. Add them - subtract them - did they have a place there in the first place?
Separation of church and state, my friends. "In Allah We Trust" would certainly rustle a few feathers.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
In God We Trust is printed
In God We Trust is printed on the side of the coin, not the front any more.
reality
To trust in a god is to trust in an imaginary construction of the human mind, an artifact of our rhetorical delusions.
Removing "In God We Trust" sounds to me like a fine gesture towards a return to sound money based on real commodities.
If only it were true and more than just a gesture...
MONEY is Ceasers anyway
HEY it's the worlds LOSS not mine.....
weee
I've got a better idea.
Mint gold coins, and stamp "In Gold We Trust" on them.
-jcr
AMEN AND HALLELUJAH!!!
AMEN AND HALLELUJAH!!!
Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...
What theists are essentially
What theists are essentially saying is that the motto -- which has only been there officially since the 1950s -- is an inherent feature of currency, and that to remove it is to oppress them.
This is clearly absurd. The unfairness comes when unbelievers are left with no tenable option other than to use currency which offends them. It is directly offensive to an unbeliever for the money to mention God; it cannot possibly be offensive to theists for it NOT to mention God, because I can name any number of objects that do not mention God, which you use all the time.
Imagine if Christians were a minority in the US, having been superseded by Satanists. Now imagine that they replaced "In God We Trust" with "All Hail Lord Lucifer." Now imagine that the only tenable way for you to avoid using this money would be to become a subsistence farmer or move to a barter community.
This is essentially the situation unbelievers are in. You would go far in demonstrating your Christian empathy by agreeing that it is unfair -- and utterly unnecessary -- to infuse the universal common currency with a non-universal profession of faith.
And let's not forget what Jesus said about rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Do you really think God wants his name plastered all over something as base as currency?
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Liberty for Dummies
You kids argue all you want,
You kids argue all you want, have fun, get your creative juices flowing. Debate sharpens you. However, I don't give a flying shit what they stamp or don't stamp on that useless coinage. It's good when you can't find a stone to skip and if your creative enough, it'll scrape your ass clean in an emergency. For all I care they can stamp a picture of Mary Poppins it, at least then you might be able to collect it and sell it for more later.
BUMP
there isnt a mix of church and state, our money supply is privately owned. you know that. No they are taking in god we trust off the rim and i think they will include it on the coin somewhere Dont forget the 1972 double die penny you can pick this up cheap and it may take off in value because no one knows how many there are
Whatever
I happen to work at "the place" that makes these decisions and implements them...and this is a crazy rumor.
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I'm so glad you're still here..That was the best laugh I've had.
at least this week! (the vote on the bail-out was a real downer.)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Finally
Finally they take that out.
Awesome!
Its about time that they took reference to God off of there, There should be no mix of church and state at all. It doesn't belong there
Then don't
go to any GOP Conventions. You can't do anything without them telling you to pray. It's sickening.
To answer the original question here, it's bogus.
Yes, some of the coins are missing Psalm 91:2. But the ones that have it are on the rim of the coin. Some are even double-strikes, meaning that it got tamped twice, one offset from the other.
It's just the Mint goofing up. It happens. Some more famous examples of late:
1937 3-legged Buffalo nickel
1955-S Double strike penny
1970s dates over dates dimes (lots of versiosn of those)
1990-P double strike penny
And occasionally they'll strike the wrong coin on a round. They call those "mules" and when they hit circulaiton, they are worth a lot.
Others get struck off-center, same situation.
It happens to paper money as well, that's why "star" notes exist--they're replacements for defectives, but even those get into circulation every once in a while.
This email is just some nutcase venting outrage over that which he knows nothing.
Troyusaguy, disregard it.
Foolishness.
Why are you trying so hard to make yourself look foolish, Tannim? It’s very unattractive and downright rediculous on your part.
In the first place, he’s asking a question (look at the subject line again). We should never call people nutcases just because we don’t care for what they say. He should be congratulated for being curious (most people either don’t even get that far or just pretend they have the correct answers).
You’re merely trying to make him look dumb so you can think you look smart. For several months I have had four or five new dollar coins I’ve wanted to get rid of because “In God We Trust” had been seemingly omitted. To the best of my knowledge they’re not misprinted coins.
--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
Another short bus reject response
If you want to ditch those coins, go spend them, for crying out loud!
Of send them to me, I'll be happy to take them off your hands for 5 FRNs and the postage.
They ARE misprints. Any coin dealer, the Mint itself, and any coin magazine at your local bookstore or grocery store will bear that out.
And I didn't call HIM a nutcase. I called the originator of the email a nutcase, because it has its origins in the far right nutcase world.
BTW, I collect coins. I know better.
You, sir, and I use the term generously, do not.
???
Whatever you're saying/accusing this guy of is waaaaaaay out there bro. Go find Bigfoot or something.
GREAT!
At least part of our government has some sense! It doesn't belong there and never has.
Doc Holladay
http://www.myspace.com/do...
Actually I agree, because
Actually I agree, because God's name does not belong on trash currency printed by a dirty, corrupt government.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
You shall not bear false witness, right?
The people who print out our money sure have no trust in God....
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Again, we find ourselves in
Again, we find ourselves in agreement. :)
LOL ...Good One
LOL...Good One
G.O.D.
Gold.......Oil...........Drugs
That is the only God this Govt. cares about.
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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008