Why are cops such pricks?- Here's one answer

it called not following procedure!

that was not smart, right off the bat i could tell the killers body language was negative even though i did not understand a word he said. his voice tonality was also very telling.

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ya know... after reading threw these threads it seems to me no one see's any fault in that cold blooded murderer who killed those 2 police officers.. evidently the cops were there arresting someone who was shop lifting...
called by the owner doing there job.. what did thse 2 cops do that is wrong that they deserved to have there heads blown off! wake up folks it goes both ways! the only thing I regret is that I was not there to help the cops.. this was a brutal murder of 2 police officers and nobody seems to care! but I guess the shop lifter should be able to go ahead and steal?

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these cops are bad wait till marshal law starts and these guys are replaced with troops who don't even speak English. They will come from other countries that don't like us. I wonder what the push on condemning cops right now. Could it have something to do with St. Paul, don't you think they will use what we say to fire the cops up. The Police organization endorsed Dr. Paul a while back because he supported them. The troops send money, they support Dr. Paul but we keep getting threads that want to start a division and I am starting to think it is on purpose.

Stop and think, Dr. Paul is a peaceful man they can't get him ticked off, but hey, we are a different story. Show the cops we are assholes and we will be treated as such. I am not saying we should bend over but tell me how exactly it helps to turn them away. For all the videos that show bad cops I am sure there are just as many stories about good ones. Everyone who has a job knows what it is to be pressured to do what you don't want because it is expected.

Ok, at some point these officers will have to make a choice. Let's find ways of reaching them in a positive gesture. So when TSHTF we are all on the same page. Hmmmm Peace

Monkey see, monkey do.

Also, a lot of second rate people think it will be a steady and easy job.

there is no excuse for police or any government officails to violate the people they serve. These criminals did a terrible thing, thats no reason to punish others. These criminals need to be held accountable to the full extent of the law.
Telling me we need to be understanding of police who violate our rights is the same strategy as selling us in to Iraq.
We need to hold criminals accountable and government needs to protect peoples rights.

threads.

Good post.

We all are individuals and we all have our roles.

The cops are the ones who have to clean up the mess. I do not envy their job.
But I also don't have sympathy for them if they can't do a little research to see the truth.
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I would suggest you check this out to see the source of the problem.
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The people I knew who grew up to become cops ranged from the average intelligence small guy who became a workout warrior, the kid who did cocaine and went of the map for 4 years and the biggest numskull I knew. That said, there are a number of good cops in the police force, as evidenced by those that would honk with a thumbs up when I stood outside with a Ron Paul sign (and even a number for 9/11 truth in the past two years, never mix the two).

If we are trying to explain why many cops tend to be pricks, I think we need to include the Stanford Prison Experiment in the discussion.
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Their job is to preserve the peace so if they got you on camera and the situation doesn't look good you need to call them on disturbing the peace.

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...are probably over-represented in the law enforcement population simply because power draws corruption to it.

SOME people are motivated by a sense of justice or a desire to serve or promote social order, and THEY often become fine officers, but I fear too many just want to push around their neighbors and hide behind a badge.

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Okay, so for every cop that gets hurt on the job, tens of thousands of us have to suffer for it because these people answer to no one and figure that every one of us now is out to get them. Let me ask this: How many of you folks feel just fine about seeing that red light in your mirror and are just fine with a cop standing in front of you while another one walks around behind? Huh? Just place your replies here.

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"It's no reason," you mean, "It's no surprise."

There are many cops that don't deserve the reputation. The bad cops need to be weeded out. It is our tolerance level today that is at fault.

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when you work under the premise that you need to use pre-emptive coercive force to ensure the good of all, it has both a corrupting spiritual effect, and an attraction for those who see such as a means to safely fulfill violent desires.

Targets. Its all about the way police "performance" is measured.

In the 1980's there were race riots in London and Liverpool. Beat cops had been told, off the record, by their superiors to "go after the blacks." And they set about their task with great zeal.

In the late 1990's things changed dramatically, when "cleared cases" became the watchword. Trivial offences that were easy to detect, prosecute and convict on became the priority. Anything awkward and difficult like robbery, burglary, serious assault or homocide got left behind.

Hardly surprising then, that there has been a 21st century explosion in British crime. In major urban areas most people either don't bother reporting crimes or are actually afraid to do so. The criminals rule the streets after dark.

The government is more interested in massaging statistics and pretending that everything is fine than they are in actually fixing the problem.

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08:04 AM CDT on Friday, July 4, 2008

Women warn of 'nightmare' traffic stops in Irving
By BRETT SHIPP / WFAA-TV
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IRVING - Those driving down the road without an insurance card or driver's license with a correct address may find themselves in jail if they get pulled over by Irving police.

In fact, it happened to two women who were pulled over by the same two Irving cops last weekend. Both women said their traffic stops turned into a nightmare.

Mikki Stokes, of Irving, said she was headed to the store for some sour cream when she was stopped by two Irving police officers.

She was initially stopped for not making a complete stop when exiting the parking lot. Stokes second offense was that her current address was not on her Texas driver's license. However, she said she never dreamed that those two minor offenses would result in her being cuffed and stuffed into the back end of a squad car.

"And I was like, 'Is this something that someone with no criminal record would get arrested for, that's never been in trouble for anything [and] that's not a persistent offender?" she said. "I've never been in trouble before. Why are you arresting me for this? And they were like, 'We can arrest you for anything.'"

Two hours later it was Leanna Onstott, of Fort Worth, who became the next target of the same two officers.

"And he said, 'You are under arrest,'" she said of when she was pulled over without have proper proof of insurance in her car. "And he turned me around and put handcuffs on me and I was just like, 'Is this really happening? I mean, can they do this?'"

Onstott was originally pulled over for creeping her car past the pedestrian crossing line.

Neither woman had outstanding warrants or had ever been to jail. Yet, Stokes said she spent two hours behind bars. Onstott said she spent five hours in jail before posting a $600 bond. However, none of that was what Onstott said was the worst part of her arrest.

"They asked me to take off my clothes," she said.

Onstott was then forced to put on jail clothes.

Both women have filed internal affairs complaints against the two Irving officers Daniels and McPherson. While Irving police officials said their concerns are being taken seriously and will be thoroughly investigated, they also said the officers were within their rights to make the arrests.

"The discretion that was used, the decision to make the arrests, it's well within their authority to do that," said David Tull, with the Irving Police Department. ".... I don't know that you could say it's common, but it's not unheard of."

Regardless of how the investigation turns out, both women said their faith in Irving police has been shattered.

"I think if someone can't get them to stop abusing power and pulling people over and doing stuff like this because they think they have the right to, then they don't need to be in that job," Stokes said.

Onstott warned motorists that as long as officers can arrest whoever they want for what they want, Irving is not a desirable place to drive.

"I just want to know why they didn't give me a ticket," she said. "The public needs to know that it's happening and it could happen to them if it happened to me."

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It's not so much the state troopers and sheriffs I have a problem with as I've had very positive encounters with both, even when they are giving me a ticket. It's the city pigs I have the problem with.

Those are the ones that give all cops a bad name. I live in Pelham, Alabama and we call the cops around here the "Pelham Nazis". That name has stuck because most of them are young asshole cops that think they are above the law and can do whatever they want. I've never had a good experience when dealing with them.

I've purposely avoided the roadblocks they set up at night and go around so I do not have to deal with them. I do wonder sometimes whether the roadblocks and ID checks are even legal. I've not been able to find anything on it in my searches.

we can't lump everyone together. I remember going to a Ron Paul rally and a state trooper was there with his two little girls. He kept telling everyone that we had to get Dr. Paul elected. This man knew stuff, he was almost pleading with us. I was new to the movement and thought wow, this is unusual. Now, I understand how he felt. Wouldn't it be great if we could judge people by their actions rather than group and all the other stuff. I don't see it happening though. Peace

...and they get paid with stolen funds. They'll do anything they're told, as long as someone calls it "the law." As such, they deserve zero respect. Have I missed anything?

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indoctrination that gets pushed on them that makes them pricks. There are some good ones. I even know a few. But when you see their cars, your first thought is douche bag! At least thats how I feel. If you are educated on your rights though, I have found that it intimidates them and puts you in the drivers seat if you have a run in with the piggies! They don't know how to act when they feel you know more then them.

a very close friend of mine is a Colorado state trooper. He is an avid Ron Paul supporter! yes I have seen jerk off cops but for the most part the ones I have had to have contact with were good people.. that animal that shot those 2 police officers is a douchebag! I hope he fries!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Since He and his family went up there, he’s had a fairly mild job. An occasional drunken argument to break up. Not too much more than that evidentally.

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I had it explained to me this way from a Sheriff. He said, "Yeah, we all wanted to be State Patrol... They got the cushy job on the open road and get to go wherever. Those of us that didn't make the cut... well, some of us go on to become Sheriff's... and those that don't make that cut... well they become city cops..."

Can you see a trend here?

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In elementary school, EVERY bully, grew up to be cops. That's how I see it.

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