An American Pastime: Smoking Pot
The Netherlands, with its permissive marijuana laws, may be known as the cannabis capital of the world. But a survey published this month in PLoS Medicine, a journal of the Public Library of Science, suggests that the Dutch don't actually experiment with pot as much as one would expect. Despite tougher drug policies in the U.S., Americans were twice as likely to have tried marijuana than the Dutch, according to the survey. In fact, Americans were more likely to have tried marijuana or cocaine than people in any of the 16 other countries, including France, Spain, South Africa, Mexico and Colombia, that the survey covered.
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People in this country are sooooo miserable, they will do anything to escape reality. They KNOW the reality. It's the facing it that's the problem. I still think the drug war is ridiculous. They put you in prison for doing drugs, and guess what? You can get ALL the drugs you want IN PRISON. That just goes to show you that it's not about the drugs, it's about the money that the prison system generates. My young nephew made a interesting point to me. While discussing the same topic, he said, you know it's stupid to put criminals in with other criminals and expect them to come out clean on the other side, he said, all they do IS LEARN HOW TO BE BETTER CRIMINALS from the other prisoners. The wisdom of youth!
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Go to RP's "The Revolution - A Manifesto"...
on the audio version on CD #4, Chapter 5, or in the book in his "Civil Liberties and Personal Freedoms" chapter he does a great job of explaining how marijuana became demonized by Congress and why; as well as giving his opinion on why Americans should be allowed to use it, especially terminally-ill Americans. It makes a lot of sense.
great post
yogamama
agreed.
here in Canada medicinal marijuana is legal....
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What's the point of this
What's the point of this post? Is it to imply that legalization might reduce usage, and that this is a desirable outcome?
I agree that it should be legal, but I disagree that pot-smoking is something to be discouraged.
Free people should free to do as they will, so long as they do no harm to others. If a person wants to get stoned all day, it's his business.
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Think about blowback
I think it just illustrates the futility of laws like this. Often...trying to do one thing ends up causing the exact opposite effect.
I don't know if it is something to be discouraged (there's certainly worse things you can do) but it needs to be viewed as a vice.
Much like alcohol, gambling, sex, and other vices...done in moderation and with a clear view on where this vice stands against what should be more important things...it's harmless.
I agree...that whatever your choices are in life...people should be free to live their lives how they see fit. It's wasteful and futile to make decisions for others.
Blowback? Is that what 2nd
Blowback? Is that what 2nd hand pot smoke is called?
Lol
Good one
You contradict yourself.
You contradict yourself. First you say it's a vice that should be done in moderation, then you say we shouldn't make decisions for others. But who is to say what is and isn't a vice? And who is to say how much of something is acceptable?
If a person wants to spend their entire lives drunk and stoned and chasing sex and gambling away every penny, that's his right. It is not for you or I or anyone else to suggest that he should tone it down a bit. When we do that, we're implying that there is a proper way to live, which means that we know what that way is and others should follow our lead. And we can't play the "it's bad for society" card, because that suggests that the collective is more important than the individual.
There are no vices. There are only choices. One person's vice is another person's lifestyle choice. If we can't accept that and respect it, then we're going to have to reject individualism and embrace collectivism.
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I think more rather it's not
I think more rather it's not a criminalable offense. The neocons i work with/for think it's the most dangerous "gateway" drug ever. They buy into the propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
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British police don't care about pot
My Cheech and Chong days are a distant memory. But current medical statistics tell me that the stuff sold on the streets now contains 10 times more THC than the crappy adulterated hashish I smoked back the 1990s.
Step out of Brixton subway station in London, turn into Atlantic Road and you will hear street vendors hawking their wares.
"Skunk weed! Skunk weed!"
I kid you not.
-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."
"Crappy adulterated hasish"???
Maybe your source was selling you licorice...The hash that was around London in the late 80's was extremely potent.
I was still in school in the 1980s...
...I wasn't smoking hash in London. How old are you lad?
"Licorice" LOL.
-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."
utter nonsense
While there are some strains that reach those levels of THC, they were all around in the 70's as well. The vast majority of pot out there is perfectly normal by hippie standards.
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Uhhhh... The pot from the
Uhhhh... The pot from the 70's is not even close to the same level/quality of the stuff that's available today.
ever heard of Northern Lights?
I'm old enough to know that "kind bud", hydroponic, etc. was around in the 70's as well as the ordinary variety. There just wasn't very much of it. By the mid eighties, it was much more common. Today's mid-grade and top-grade is much stronger than what was most common in the 70's, but the cheap stuff is exactly the same as it ever was. That's why it's the cheap stuff.
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propoganda...
the 'old-timers' I know claim that 'their' stuff was soooo killer.
If today's lovingly grown kind-bud is better, so what? Folks just smoke less. I know for a fact that the crap that comes up from Mexico is near bunk, and is most likely tainted with many contaminants.
Buy American or Canadian for the best quality on this side of the ocean.
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Here's lookin' at you, weed
When something is outlawed, its demand increases for people who want it anyway. Not to mention the mystique and sense of risk and rebelliousness in partaking of something traditional authority figures label as "bad for you," as well as a symbol of experimentation and, to some degree, youthful exuberance (finding yourself, sowing wild oats, etc). I think that's where the "gateway effect" lies; better to influence such purposefully unpredictable, but vulnerable human behavior with education and a shift toward treating the negative effects of such drugs as a public health issue instead of all the ridiculous, worst-case-scenario-assuming and illegal rules, regs, punishments and classic fuckups.
I remember my feelings toward alcohol both before and after age 21. It just suddenly wasn't a big deal anymore once I held high that updated driver's license, primed and shiny in the sun, promising limitless drinking power as bottomless as whatever current state my wallet would allow. The binge-drinking immediately subsided, the allure had faded and was replaced with a satisfied comfort. Excessive partying became steady trips to the bars around town. Of course, all this happened in reasonable time after my 21st party, but one gets the point.
Sort of reminds me of a long relationship; the conflagration fades and flickers into glowing embers, steady and warm until they're gone in whatever fashion. Maybe that's it; the government is keeping us from going steady with our pasttime, and is forcing us into positions of one-night stands and awkward back-alley encounters, damaging our overall future ability to easily transition to and positively function in a more traditional, mature relationship. The freedom to sit down without a certain discomfort would also be a welcome relief.
Now, if I may humbly excuse myself, I have a bowl of Cool Ranch Doritos awaiting my immediate and utmost attention.
For liberty!! *gong*
Yeah, when I went to Amsterdam...
it was much easier to find Americans rather than natives at the coffee-houses. It was in the off-season, as well....
Sidenote: The dutch have complete, 100% gun control. Even for the cops to arm themselves takes a huge effort, according to locals. I learned this because there was a MACHINE-GUN 'hit' at one of the clubs the week I was there. Why? Cocaine. And you guessed it: Mary J is tolerated (not 'legal'), but blow is a big focus for police. Dozens of peddlers tried to hock their blow-crap to me, yet not one coffee-shop employee even tried to lure me in their front doors...
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Same here...
I went there for my honeymoon. It seems like it was mostly Americans and British in the "coffee shops" that sell the weed.
And everywhere you walked you heard (whispered as you walked by) "cocaine, extacy".
You can buy MJ and magic mushrooms (a personal favorite of mine while I was there) in the coffee shops so no one is pushing them. You just walk in and buy them. The other drugs are not tolerated so well.
Nothing like touring the beautiful city of Paris on mushrooms from Amsterdam. If you are into altering your consciousness, I highly recommend it. (If you can afford a trip to Europe with the dollar the way it is... good luck. When I went $1 got you $1.25 in euros.)
Amazing....
"Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it."
Weed VS Pain
I have FMS and a few other problems and let me tell you, if I had any good smoke..I would be sitting here now taking a toke....I hate the fact that Congress and the rest of them are hording it for themselves.
Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.
The "War on Drugs"
A very lucrative business,only makes the situation worse in every way.
never used pot and probly never will try it
I feel good about it lol
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Your fifth a day habit
would probably suffer if you did. LOL
Washington was known to grow
Washington was known to grow pot on his plantation...Seems the founding fathers were right yet again!
Benjamin Franklin said "Beer is living......
....proof God loves us and wants us to be happy". Sherlock Holmes preferred "shag tobbacco", to solve a three pipe problem. Hobbits enjoyed shag also. Ben just said beer, but my guess is he would have included our favorite flower.
Thomas Jefferson, I believe, was known to smoke a doob
now and then.
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