So Much For Gun Rights: Registration Denied; Taking Possession of Arms
Posted July 18th, 2008 by fanofwalt
output
Okay, I've tried to alert people to this by commenting in an already-created thread, but either no one is noticing it, or, gun rights are simply no longer viewed as important here. Oddly enough, I am not a gun owner myself, but I really think this merits our attention; hence my repeated attempts to say, "Lookit! Lookit! Lookit!!" (hey, it sometimes works for my kids...)
So I shall try once more, this time with a fresh new thread. I'm basically copying and pasting comments I made here and here over the past couple of days.
--
Follow-Up re: Guns in D.C.
District Gun Registration Starts Tomorrow (article dated 7/16/08)
[so, registration starts today, 7/17/08]
Excerpt (note the part about officers taking possession of your guns):
An officer from the gun unit will meet the applicant at the door and take temporary possession of the gun to ensure safety at headquarters.
Officers will tag the gun and run ballistics tests before returning it to the owner. Paperwork indicating that registration is in process will be provided.
About 14 days later, after an FBI background check, the gun will be officially registered.
"Tag the gun" means...what? And does this mean that the gun is held in possession by the officers for the entire waiting period? Or?
---
and this:
---
Gun? SCOTUS says NO, not yours
To paraphrase the Soup Nazi, "No gun for YOU!!"
Say, remember that recent Supreme Court ruling that said, yes, it's okay to own a gun in D.C.?
That case was referred to as the "Heller" case, because a guy named Dick Heller was the plaintiff in the case.
Here's a story from today about Heller. Guess what: D.C. won't allow him to register his gun.
Quick quote:
The district won't even let Dick Heller, whom you may recall as the plaintiff in the case that led the Supreme Court to overturn the D.C. handgun ban, register his handgun.
---
Despite the SCOTUS verdict, we clearly aren't out of the woods on this issue.
Bookmark/Search this post with:
I wonder if a super magnet will fry one of these
RFID chips?
In my opinion
The SCOTUS ruling merely laid the groundwork needed for stronger regulation and more licensing. It really didn't do anything for gun rights. Pretty much all it did was say you can have a handgun in your house. I don't think this ruling protects any other guns at all. It sure as hell didn't do anything to protect people from this BS registration and ballistics testing stuff.
Only fools think the ruling meant anything....
same with the neo-jerks argument about how important the Mccain/SCOTUS nomination issue is.
7 of the 9 'justices' are the result of Repubicrat presidents. Why is damn-near every vote split 5-4?
Mcain/SCOTUS is a lame excuse for a lame candidate!
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost
sorry...that is a bit harsh...
fools and those mis-informed by tired, old, unreliable, corporate lame-stream media conglomerates. There IS a difference in there somewhere....
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost
Yes, they're buying time
by asserting other aspects of their local ordinances, and going to make that get taken to court for another 5 years of waiting around for another Supreme Court case.
This is what they do. They just run you around in circles until you drop, and exhaust all your financing in court costs that they make money on.
We are dealing with the ultimate lowest level of scum in DC.
They are the leeches who live UNDER the bottom of the barrel.
How about a nice flamethrower, then?
A commenter on the linked Reason article noted that flamethrowers may get to be exempt from D.C.'s guidelines, since those (a) do not hold any rounds of bullets, and (b) are not loaded from the bottom. Problem solved!
(Right; there's probably some other ordinance against those on the books...)
crazy
"the district's position is that all handguns that accept magazines holding more than 12 rounds—meaning "all bottom-loading guns," according to a local news report—are prohibited under D.C.'s ridiculously broad "machine gun" ban. So even though Heller's pistol is a semiautomatic with a seven-round clip, it might as well be an Uzi as far as the district is concerned."
----------------------------------------
Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul
...and I'm sure the line to register such things...
will encircle the block!
BATF? (Bury All Thy Firearms)
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Announcing a new Meetup for
Announcing a new Meetup for Greater NYC Campaign for Liberty!
What: DC GUN BAN! HELLER NEEDS YOUR HELP!
When: July 18, 2008 9:00 AM
Meetup Description: We need your help!
Tomorrow morning at 9 at 300 Indiana Ave NW at Judiciary Square metro stop (red line), Dick Anthony Heller (of the Supreme Court case of the same name) will register his handgun in DC--the first time for anyone in 32 years! The press is going to be there--and some of them want to portray this brave 2nd Amendment supporter as the lone gun rights activist. In truth, many of us constitutionalists know the importance of all nine judges reaffirming an individual rights interpretation of the Bill of Rights--that we have an individual right to free speech, etc., not a collective one.
We need as many supporters as we can muster to demonstrate support for the Bill of Rights.
When: 9 AM, Friday, July 18th
Where: the sidewalk and front steps in front of 300 Independence Ave NW at Judiciary Square (red line metro)
How: bring signs and posters in support of Dick Heller, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the 2nd Amendment, etc--or at least yourselves! Chant and cheer and sign wave as a backdrop of support for the press pictures and cameras.
Please forward to other Meetup and other groups and friends. Spread the word!
Supporters on site are likely to meet Dick Heller!
Give 'em Heller!
Give 'em Heller!
Heller Meetup Rally Fri. 7/18
Hope you draw quite a crowd there tomorrow. It will be interesting to see whether Heller will indeed get to register his gun. He may have to get a different one to register!
I'm also very curious to find out how long officers keep possession of the guns, and how, precisely, they are "tagging" the guns. I can't help but wonder whether it involves any kind of RFID/GPS tagging, which would be VERY disturbing.
You have a good
point. They might put RFID/GPS tagging.
Sure would make finding them easier, wouldn't it?
You could bury these ten feet deep, and it wouldn't matter, if they were so tagged.
Understand, I do not know that this is what they mean by "tagged"...the term simply isn't explained. Which is precisely what made bells go off in my head when I read that.
Also still unclear: for how long are guns confiscated during the registration process?
And a fresh new question: if, for whatever reason, a gun submitted for registration fails to pass the approval list...what happens with that firearm? Is it returned to the owner, even though it is not registered (remember, DC folks can only own registered guns)? Or is this a "legal" way to confiscate "unapproved" arms?
You follow my thinking?
We were warned
We were warned by many gun groups that no matter what the decision was, there would be a fight. In no way did this give us back the second amendment it just stops a total ban. They can still regulate it to the point where it's impossible to have.
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."
Yup. You got it.
http://muddythoughts.blog...
Damn!!!!
This is crazy stuff. Thanks, for posting and not giving up on us. Peace
One last whirl
Last chance bump, for those who missed this.