More homeschooling and Internet-based education can help solve energy problems
More homeschooling and Internet-based education can help solve energy problems
--Think about it - we drive our kids back and forth to school.
--If we don't drive them, the busdrivers do.
--Teachers and other staff must also drive back and forth to school.
--Furthermore, are the kids really receiving a high-quality education once they get there? Doubtful.
--The present system is ANTIQUATED and is a HUGE WASTE OF ENERGY and is BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. (This is a meme that could help tie together our movement with other movements - the greens, the environmentalists, the religious right, etc)
--What if kids homeschooled 3-4 days a week, and traveled to the physical school just 1-2 days a week for in-class science/lab study?
And I'm not sure what is currently available in terms of K-12 homeschooling/Internet-based education, but check out this initiative by MIT for what is taught at the college level.
MIT OpenCourseWare
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb...
All free of charge - granted, you don't get a degree for studying this material. But for those that can't afford college or won't be able to get a loan (thanks to tight credit conditions) - this could be a blessing and could prepare them for the point in time when they ARE ready for the official degree.
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Great idea
Since I am an online educator I am all for it. It is called "job security." ;0)
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Stop giving your kids THE BLUE PILL
1) Throw away the television. Today. Cold turkey. If it is in the house, someone will be plugged in sooner rather than later.
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2) Get your children out of school. As of Labor Day, your children are homeschooled. Don't freak out about curriculum, all you need to begin homeschooling is a stack of paper and pencils, a library card and (in my home, at least) a bible. Under whose authority? Dad and nature and nature's God, as expressed in the Constitution. The state is not a god, nor is the state between man and God. If you are a bible reader, go back and read Deuteronomy chapters 4 & 5.
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3) Have another baby. Or ten. Out of your womb will arise a nation ... who understands and loves the liberty endowed by nature and nature's God.
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Only YOU can prevent ... the death of liberty!
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Spread the word!
This is an awsome idea. Also so uniting. Except for the teachers
This is an awsome idea. Also so uniting. Except for the teachers Unions
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that would put millions of teachers out of jobs
if they're doing the work from home, textbook work, what's the need for teachers, why have anyone with a degree at all?
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There is already a shortage
There is already a shortage of teachers. Teachers can work digitally from home and service more students and/or spend more time with students that need more coaching.
One incentive for teachers has always been summers off. With this type of system they could have more flexibility to take time when they need it.
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It would just further the decline of the education field
No true teacher would accept a job where the only interaction with their students would be digital and whose taking care of these children while both of their parents are at work.
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I respectfully disagree
I know elementary education is different but I teach college online. I love it. I am able to interact with my students and provide for them a level of learning I could never do in the classroom. Also, I have so much flexibility. I can go to Minneapolis and take my laptop with me. I can go anywhere there is an internet connection. You can't do that in a classroom. The internet is also a huge tool for teaching that I take full advantage of.
Elementary education would be harder and I do believe the parents should be more actively involved in their child's education rather than relying on an internet educator. A big part of education at that level is what happens between the parent and child.
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Why do both parents have to
Why do both parents have to work??? Tax compliance. I want to eradicate taxes so that parents can spend more time with their children. As it is now it is better in some cases to have a full time parent when you consider what the overhead of daycare cost are.
Myself, i refuse to have children in the current social economic climate.
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I was under the impression
that we were working with our current situation. No?
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I don't believe there are
I don't believe there are any solutions to any of our problems without addressing monetary policy first and foremost.
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THey would then have to market ...
their "skills" on the free market, maybe some would even have the gumption to start thier own "propaganda schools" to infuse their statist views- but I wouldn't have to pay for it!
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it would be to hard a blow to the economy
so many people out of a job at once. Privatizing public schools would be the way to go.
Another note, public schooling basically serves as a babysitting service, there is hardly any knowledge attained anyways. However, with most families needing both parents to work to keep their head above water; whose going to watch the kids?
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Solutions
I'm going to take a wild guess that you haven't looked exhaustively into homeschooling. Most people who do not homeschool haven't looked into it (just like I haven't looked deeply into, say, motocross racing. Not my interest).
So you probably don't know about the hundreds of thousands of homeschoolers who seek out good, highly skilled private tutors for certain subjects. We shouldn't be called "home" schoolers, because we're always trotting all over town, often to attend hand-picked classes taught by knowledgeable and effective teachers. (And if all the credentialed teachers in the schools are so wonderful, then why are all those Mathnasium and Kumon learning center franchises popping up all over the place?)
The best teachers would snap up these homeschool clients in a red hot minute. The less effective teachers would learn another trade, which they should probably do, anyway.
You also likely don't know about educational co-ops, where homeschooling families take turns leading groups of kids in study, so each family is "responsible" for the homeschooling, say, one day out of the week.
There are many approaches. Certainly, privatizing public schools is one way. Of course, reducing our taxes, eliminating the IRS, and restoring our currency to sound money and a dollar that's worth something would make the question of "who's going to watch the kids" disappear entirely.
Oh I understand homeschooling
You certainly pulled a lot out of my knowledge base out of one paragraph. I'll refrain from doing the same.
If every family could home school, that would be the best solution for students. However, our economy has fused around the idea that both parents work and most families can't afford to have someone stay home to watch their children and I have little doubt that if word got around that a family was leaving their child at home alone, that child services would take them away.
The thread wasn't about private tutors, though yes I do know about them. If we're talking about cutting fossil fuels, then how are we fixing things by switching one drive to school with a bunch of different rides.
Credentialed public school teachers aren't good, what I was pointing out was that there would be no point of having teachers if the students were doing their work at home.
Would good teachers be snapped up by home school clients, no they wouldn't have to snap them up, with so many educated people suddenly without jobs, they could take their pick.
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Good points, all
And I do apologize if I assumed too much (or too little, as it were).
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it's no problem. We agree I think we were just both looking at his thread through different lenses.
I finish getting my education degree this year. I'll probably start off teaching in the public school to get my loans payed off. When I have kids though, they'll be home schooled. I've worked in public schools for the past three years, I would never send a kid there.
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Maybe if a tax deduction
were part of it. Ron Paul introduced a bill in 2004 that would give families that homeschool a tax deduction. That might encourage more people to homeschool.
There is no greater educator
than the parent who takes on the responsibility for their own child's education. No one will judge their needs, nor educate them better.
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For the pro-war folks: More
For the pro-war folks:
More energy efficient education for our children will inevitably cause less money to be sent to those foreign nations responsible for financing terrorism.
Not to mention ...
Heating/cooling bills for the school, lighting and appliances, administrator pay, teacher pay (all government funded).
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Bingo!
Bingo!
And the impact on roads, too
Fewer cars = less traffic = more cars able to travel across the highways and byways faster, instead of wasting their gas by sitting in traffic jams.
How many people do you impact on the road by your presence? (I don't know the answer, but it's gotta be a lot.) Multiply that times all the individual cars of parents driving their kids to school, plus of course the cars of the teachers, administrators, support staff, janitorial crew, crossing guards, school busses, etc. How much traffic would be reduced, just by addressing this one issue!?!
Less polluting emissions going into the air, less gas wasted waiting in traffic jams, faster commute times for others, less road rage...where's the downside, here? :)
Man, are these GREAT arguments to use with environmentalists who are (currently) publicly-financed-education minded!
I would really love for you
I would really love for you to post this idea here:
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OK, I created an account and
OK, I created an account and posted it to my blog there.
Can I post it anywhere else on the site or just my blog?
You post to your own blog
You post to your own blog but allow for it to be seen by all or any groups you are affiliated with.
Thanks for stepping up to the plate and sticking it to Gore.
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man this thread has my wheels rollin
Why couldn't the revolution do this. we don't get media so we start our own. We say we want to educate why not start an internet school. With a labtop a child could also do their schooling at a day care.
Just throwing some more ideas out there
The really good K-12 teachers could develop their own internet course material - whether it be video lectures, notes, tutorials, etc and the students AND parents could rate their material to determine which is the most useful / most educational.
Students and teachers could even meet in a virtual classroom such as in Second Life / OpenSim / Google Lively or something similar.
Per your request
Here ya go -- this already exists: K-12 Online Curriculum
Certainly not the curriculum of choice for my own household; however, this is but ONE of the MANY online educational options already available out there.
As for me, I shall continue to tout the virtues of a Thomas Jefferson Education.
Thanks! Let's try and
Thanks!
Let's try and aggregate more sources for this type of information.
You want resources?
I got resources. BOY have I got resources. I'll post 'em later today; right now I have an ant infestation to address (aaah, it's bigger than I thought -- ugh!)
There are plenty of other homeschoolers here too, who I am sure will be happy to supply additional information.
Not to mention
-The huge amount of energy saved by not having to keep huge schools warm or cold
-all the teachers and administrators traveling back and forth to school
This doesn't just save energy it also would (hopefully) decrease and possibly eliminate the insidious school tax, which around my area cripples people's income.
great
idea
Ending the government monopoly is, IMHO, the better
path and objective to achieving better education results. The innovation, of making use of the internet (where kids spend so much time anyway) in order to reduce the need for fuel consumption, is also very attractive. The best thing about both of them is that they also tend to eat away at the educratic structure currently in place; a fact which I am sure will not go unnoticed by the NEA. They will scream like stuck pigs. So much the better.
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hmm, not only energy
but look at the savings in taxes. I spend only a couple hundred per child homeschooling. How much does the schools spend per child?
$18,000+ this yr.....
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there is no energy
there is no energy problem... its a federal reserve problem but I do like your idea!
Problem? No problem?
It doesn't matter. This is not about what you know for yourself, but about what others perceive.
I have said it several times, and I'll say it again: know your audience. Focus on their issues and concerns, and tie it into the r3volution. We don't win hearts and minds by telling people how wrong they are, but by appealing to their issues and then showing them how the r3volution is the solution.
This is what makes our movement so cool: when you really look at it, it serves and benefits everyone. They just may not realize it yet, because we may not yet have found all the most effective ways to spread the message, and clearly demonstrate to our audiences the whys and hows of a liberty lifestyle, and how it serves them. This energy-saving idea is definitely a step in the right direction.
The concept of applying energy-saving benefits to our rhetoric when presenting our ideas to Dems, environmentalists, nature activists, etc. is brilliant.
In the minds of many people,
In the minds of many people, it IS an energy problem.
This can be one avenue for winning them over.
END the gov. monopoly.
End government monopoly= 25% reduction in taxes, to say nothing about the brain freeze from age segregated peer grouping.