Fellowship of the White Rose - International Fellowship for Freedom
Thank you all for the great input for this thread. It's wonderful that people on the DP are aware of three facts:
1.) Though we are all here to support Dr.Paul in his efforts to restore the Constitution of the united States (since this struggle is of importance for us all), the struggle for personal freedom transcends national boundaries.
2.) All nations have a (sometimes hidden) history and more or less strong tradition of resistance against oppression and struggle for personal freedom.
3.) This struggle is not only a political but also a cultural one.
May sound a bit dry, but basically it does mean we may not only gain a lot of strength but also a lot of fun by listening to and supporting one another.
Having said this, I think it's worthwile to pursue the idea further. You all know, I very much like the DP, but for various reasons it's far from being an ideal place to work on this idea further. It's a pitty I don't have the time and not yet the skills to open a platform on its own.
But wninja recommended this site recently: http://www.freeople.com/
I had a look on it and after reading this thread http://www.dailypaul.com/... , I think it may be the right platform to collect the ressources and continue our discussion.
I would like to know your opinion!
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It's really deep in the night here in Europe and I should definetly be fast asleep. But I think something significant is now up and it would be a disgrace to let it pass.
When I was just about to log out, jshowell came up with this thread http://www.dailypaul.com/... and I realized, that the Daily Paul sometimes is a great place of congeniality. jshowell really has to get the prize for the idea and the stencil, but I guess the idea wouldn't have appeared for him the way it did without Brit4RonPaul starting a thread on founding libertarian parties in Europe some weeks ago and Fabio's initiative for the 12th of July event in Munich and his citation of the brave "White Rose"-group http://en.wikipedia.org/w....
There are real great and very individualistic people around here, each endowed with her/his own distinctive amount of stubborness, wisdom, imagination and "crazyness" (I won't mention names) and I am glad I have got closer (online) contact with some of you now. Beside all the great American guys and girls here there are a bunch of people from various countries. And I guess the idea to brace this "global community" with a distinct "brace" like the "Campaign for Liberty" lies in the air for some weeks.
I personally didn't join the "Campaign for Liberty" since I think, it's a specifically US-American project and it would water down the iconcept if its membership is internationalized. You may object, since I know many "Internationals" did join, but I think it neither does help the Americans nor the "Aliens".
Maria Slodowska and I still work on a European C4L-like platform. Though I am of the opinion the continental/regional, national and the local levels of the Liberty movement should be developed this way, the concept jhoswell and I were after (seperatly) is really an international one. While jhoswell "international party" provides for cultural event (and I too think it is important to have something local in the real world) my idea is that of a permanent cooperation, providing on a later stage not only for an internet platform but for exchange programms and perhabs some worldwide infrastructure. Look for something like this: http://www.couchsurfing.c...
The "White Rose" is a powerful symbol and it can cover both ideas : the International Parties and something I always thought of as the (International) Fellowship for Freedom . "Fellowship of the White Rose" is a great name for it.
Perhabs this is just late-night raving, but I would find it great, if you like to discuss these ideas
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Colognepaulist---
I think that the white rose is the highest (or one of the highest) frequency oils on the planet..also one of the most expensive... one once can be run between $150-350.00 so... white rose is a great slogan!!
BTW... I have some info for you.. will take 5 min..at Mac Donalds.... if you have the time...now
jdayh
Yes, I still think it's a good slogan (Though I found out WR is als the name of an Austro-German online magazine of a group who whishes to restore the monarchy in Germany and Austria. At least they don't seem to be very active)
Sorry I missed you for a Mac. I will be around at 2 pm your time.
Fellowship of the White Rose
I was raised Lutheran
and the white rose reminds me too much of the Luther Seal: http://www.pilgrimluthera...
for me
raised Catholic it was a symbol of purity.
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great threads deserve bumps
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I would like to bump my Flickr map idea
I've already put my photo and address on the Flickr map. I suggest everyone else does it as well. I know they probably already have me on their radar. I know and I don't care. Here is the Flickr Map that anyone can post their location: http://www.flickr.com/gro...
-it would be great if we saw people from around the world join this movement.
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I don't see a map
....
You need firefox for this
And I have to make up my mind about postingg my for picture myself.
Fellowship of the White Rose
I have FF
and all I get when I click on "Map" is this..
There is no map view for this group.
This is because the group doesn't have any geotagged content yet, or the information about where stuff was taken is private.
bump
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Thank you for bumping
There will soon be an update.
Fellowship of the White Rose
snow is falling
so I wanted to warm up our revolutionary hearts...bump for Liberty!
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In Europe too
Fellowship of the White Rose
Earliest snowfall I've seen for years
In my part of America. They still want to tax us for warming the environment.
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LOL
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Created a Flickr site
To view yourself on a map here:
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Firefox should be used, MS explorer doesn't work for Flickr. Also when I tried to save and open Firefox my windows wouldn't allow it, so I just ran it from the firefox site.
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Thank you
and good to know I have to change to my Firefox PC. We are growing slowly. Yet I still have to rethink this project again in the light of the election. But it's more urgent than ever.
Fellowship of the White Rose
I think it should be an information campaign
Just like the white rose. If you haven't gotten the newest republic magazine at www.republicmagazine.com I highly suggest it because it clearly delineates indigenous law (natural law) vs. surrogate law (power we give to created organizations like government and corporations).
I think the white rose should be international and focus on countries rather than the states. The goal is to get a group in every country signed up to fight for rights. I know this has been done in other groups like freedom force international, but I think having a social aspect like regular parties to end the NWO to the group would be ideal.
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bump
for activism
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Just created a group on freeople!
http://www.freeople.com/o... . You are all invited
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Cologne! I will join!
I saw today the support Rally in Paris! Wonderful! I love they said dont give up..keep fighting!
great!
here in Canada we feel like part of European (before EU) culture...
keep up your great work CPaulista!
we the people shall smash NAU!
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I will work
on the introcuction for the groups site over the week-end. Thanks for your support, legalize and LB!
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You can create a new group
You can create a new group by selecting "Create Group" under the Groups drop down menu. Also the direct link is: http://www.freeople.com/n...
You can also watch videos that provide step-by-step instructions on how to create groups, post calendar events, raise money for activities by going here:
http://www.freeople.com/a...
FYI, you must be a registered user to create groups and become a group member.
Bump
Freeople is a great place and a good supplement to the DP and a FREE alternative to Meetup. But DON'T run there ALL AT ONCE otherwise the site goes bust - LOL.
(Just pulling your leg, rs3515. I know you are working on this issue.)
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I've got an account there
I just don't know how to make a new group. Send me an e-mail if you have set up a group.
Bump for update
Shall we move here: http://www.freeople.com/ ?
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I've got an account there
I just haven't figured out how to make a group. If you have a group send me an e-mail and I'll join.
freedom!
many ways to attain it.
freeople a very good one.....
cheers!
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for Liberty!
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White Rose Flag
The county of Yorkshire has a White Rose flag and they are widely available on Ebay. This flag goes back many centuries to the "War of the Roses" . Yorkshire people are known for its outspoken and independent mindedness an perhaps adopting their flag may could be an idea. Also lapel badges are available. (Search Yorkshire Rose)
Just a thought ..... unless there is a definite prior design already associated with the earlier movement.
It's a pretty flag, but
we may be confused with the apologists of Richard III - LOL. Though he apparently was not the villain as portrayed by Shakespeare we should stay away from War-of-the-Roses-issues. I think the Lone White Star-flag is still the best.
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Can we see an image
of the Lone White Star-flag? Perhaps it's on the website, I haven't gone there yet, just going throughthe posts here first.
Bump
Daily bump for the fellowship of the white rose
such a heavenly feeling when bumping this thread
I Salute everyone involved in this project!
Cheers!
a glass of wine in hand and love for you within my heart.
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Old World Salute To The New World, And Vice Versa
Now join me in a toast: to LATIN America:
‘Quid datur a Divis felici optatius’
--Gaius Valerius Catullus (ca B.C. 84- ca B.C. 54)
(What do the gods give that is more to be wished than a happy hour?)
Salud ! BUMPS !
i wish
i had Cuba Libre rum!!!!!!
cheers!
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Bump for the Rose
I was part of this post and I'm really glad to have contributed. I'm going to make some flags out of the stencil to tell people I'm having a White Rose Party-Can we make this go viral? I'd love to see White Rose Flags on my neighbors houses.
Just announce the White Rose party that day or that week and see who shows up.
I think I may
make a white Rose flag, too. Peace Patriot
I Love This Elegant, Happy, Historical Thread
Join me in a toast:
May the jingoistic pride of nationalism go before the fall… and an international collaboration to promote universal appreciation for the fundamental principles indispensible to secure the blessings of liberty, prosperity, and peace rise to take its place.
I join you
Für die Freiheit!
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Jose Marti- White Rose
IibBerte ( thank you for education! ) posted this on another thread..I wonder if this is where the White Rose name started? see history and poem:
http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/j...
and here are "Liberty Thoughts"
http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/m...
I like this one!
"Perhaps the enemies of liberty are such only because they judge it by its loud voice. If they knew its charms, the dignity that accompanies it, how much a free man feels like a king, the perpetual inner light that is produced by decorous self-awareness and realization, perhaps there would be no greater friends of freedom than those who are its worst enemies. " Jose Marti
White Rose
I guess it's simply congeniality. It's not clear where the 'Weiße Rose' - resistance group took its name. Though they knew many books, it's unlikely they knew about Martí. In the German wikipedia it is written, Hans Scholl told under interrogation by the Gestapo they took the name from the title of a book by B.Traven http://en.wikipedia.org/w....
But perhabs he just mentioned it to cover the true motives of the group. I guess they choose the name because the white rose seems to be something pure and beautiful, in contrast to the ugliness of war and oppression under the Nazis.
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Another one for a White Rose
Praising Obama, Germany's ex-secretary of state Joschka Fischer calls for increased European militarism
http://www.wsws.org/artic...
No surprise reaction by this neo-conservative shill and desolator of the Green Party.
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bump
for Liberty!
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This made me think of a poem
I wrote years ago. I called it "Blossoming"..but I
suppose it could also apply to Liberty/Freedom or Lady Liberty almost dying but being revived by love:
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Shriveled little stalk, so close to death,
she lacked the nutrients
required to sustain life.
Non-anchored was she, alone...never realizing
she'd planted herself in a bed of sand.
Beneath an impenetrable ceiling
was she found
when first the raindrops of love fell.
But being non-anchored,
the sweet rain swept her away
to a viable ground,
enabling her to firmly take root.
And the sun shone in (no ceiling found),
And the sweet rain filled her being,
And she came back to life, oh miracle, she!
And then one day, in thankfulness
to the raindrops of love,
her heart burst forth...
a beautiful flower.
Roses Are Red…
...Or White…
...................…never blue.
http://www.barefootsworld...
"... a flower
and you, its only seed."
Another great way to wrest
liberty from your oppressors
http://www.singingrevolut...
Thanks to goyogi for the link
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That was Absolutely Inspiring!
What's the next step for the IFWR?
I planed to work on this
today, but I had to watch the Michael Ruppert video here http://www.dailypaul.com/....
I seriously recommend it and as additional read (we are really in a global struggle) http://www.thetruthseeker...
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